Service Pack 1 - how much longer?

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SP1 is not yet mandatory. It is an upgrade and not just an update.
However, after a period of time you will no longer receive security updates
unless you have upgraded. Besides a rollup of previous security patches,
SP1 includes some hotfixes that were previously only offered by Product
Support Services under special conditions and some new functionalities.
Please see the release notes for SP1 to see what it contains.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but if I'm getting critical updates anyway then why
the delay with with Service Pack 1?
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You apparently never read the KB article I referenced in direct reply
to you yesterday. All the answers are there.
 
My question...."Service Pack 1 - how much longer?" show me the definitive
answer.

I'm sure you'll find a newsgroup for unhelpful wiseasses like yourself if
you look hard enough. Try looking at some of the other posts in this thread
for an idea of what informative useful help looks like. This may help you in
the future.
 
My question...."Service Pack 1 - how much longer?" show me the definitive
answer.
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There isn't one, you idiot. How many ways can one tell you that to
get it into your thick skull!?

I gave you MICROSOFT'S answer... it covered everything.
 
Nonny said:
There isn't one, you idiot. How many ways can one tell you that to
get it into your thick skull!?

I gave you MICROSOFT'S answer... it covered everything.
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Make that "He gave..."

 
It's obviously a common problem among Vista users judging by the response
my initial post received. Try posting something useful and suggesting
alternatives like some of the other visitors to this thread.
 
It's obviously a common problem among Vista users judging by the response
my initial post received. Try posting something useful and suggesting
alternatives like some of the other visitors to this thread.
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Why don't you just download the full service pack, install it and STF
up?
 
For me and many others SP1 is blocked from being automatically available on
my PC because of a compatibility issue. Apparently it's not advisable to
download the standalone version.

Haven't you been reading the KB articles?
 
For me and many others SP1 is blocked from being automatically available on
my PC because of a compatibility issue. Apparently it's not advisable to
download the standalone version.
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On what grounds?

Since Windows Update won't offer it to you, and you refuse to download
the stand alone version, I guess you're between a rock and a hard
place.

Move on... there's nothing you can do about it.

Or do you get yer rocks off by whining about something you can't
control or refuse to control?
 
If you are referring to the accounting software issue, I agree. However, if
it is a driver reinstallation issue, the user can manually reinstall the
driver. He just needs the basic skill to do it.
 
I received the SP1 download "invite" two days ago and double-checked that I
had everything (including all HP updates) current before installing it
yesterday, as suggested in the SP1 "before you install" pages. Everything
went beautifully; it didn't take as long as MS said it might (and my desktop
is on a wireless G network, so slower than hard-wired) and I've had not a
single problem since installing it.

Vista Home Premium, HP Pavilion a6230n purchased in March and kept up to
date consistently; 500 Gb Maxtor USB drive added; HP 4-in-1.

LesleyO
 
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:39:42 +0200, <paul> wrote:

I have two computers, one I built with all new parts in July of 07.
After getting it up and running, I went to each component's website to
make sure I had the latest firmware.

My second computer was a Dell that I purchased in Dec of 07. Both
computers ran Vista Premium. SP1 was distributed, and my Dell was the
first to pick it up in Windows Update. It downloaded and installed
without problems. My home built still has not been offered SP1, even
though I checked as many drivers I could, and all were/are updated.
Windows Update continued to d/l all the security updates, but SP1
never showed up.

I finally gave up, and d/l'd SP1 manually, and it installed with no
problems. Not even one message that a driver could cause problems,
nothing. I've been running it for over 2 weeks now, and no problems.

I'm not sure what was going on with this, and why people are having
problems, but even if a message was given as to WHY it wasn't offered,
like some system check alerting us to where the problem might be. The
most modern version of Windows, and we had to try and guess why we
weren't offered the latest update. For the price we had to pay for
this latest version, it's amazing that we are still in the dark about
our own systems updates.
 
The driver issue was not bad drivers or a problem with Vista or SP1. It was
that SP1 uninstalls all drivers before the update and then reinstalls them
afterwards. A few third party drivers were not written to permit automatic
reinstallation (a goof by the provider) by TrustedInstaller and SP1 could
not reinstall them. Not a problem for someone who knows how to reinstall a
driver manually if needed, but the vast majority of users would not know a
driver from a putter. So MS did what they could to prevent any users from
having to deal with that while they worked with the device driver providers
on updating the few drivers in question. These were all drivers that worked
just fine except for the reinstall glitch. MS put a scanner in place on WU
to identify problematic drivers on a user's system so that WU would not
offer SP1 in those cases. This apparently has not been completely cleaned
up yet.
 
The driver issue was not bad drivers or a problem with Vista or SP1. It was
that SP1 uninstalls all drivers before the update and then reinstalls them
afterwards. A few third party drivers were not written to permit automatic
reinstallation (a goof by the provider) by TrustedInstaller and SP1 could
not reinstall them. Not a problem for someone who knows how to reinstall a
driver manually if needed, but the vast majority of users would not know a
driver from a putter. So MS did what they could to prevent any users from
having to deal with that while they worked with the device driver providers
on updating the few drivers in question. These were all drivers that worked
just fine except for the reinstall glitch. MS put a scanner in place on WU
to identify problematic drivers on a user's system so that WU would not
offer SP1 in those cases. This apparently has not been completely cleaned
up yet.
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Thanks for the explanation Colin. I wish, then, that MS would identify
for me which driver is causing the problem, and I could have contacted
the correct company and tracked down the propert driver, or pushed
them to fix the problem. As it is now, there's no explanation, no
reasons for not offering SP1, not even acknowledging that SP1 is even
out there. I have no idea where the problem could be.

Also, manually downloading, and installing SP1 went fine, without any
mention of a problem driver that could cause a problem. It just could
be a matter of MS not cleaning up their database as you stated, but
after all this time, you would think they'd be on top of that if it
were causing a problem for people. I'm not running any hardware, that
I'm aware of, that's out of the ordinary, all from major manufacturers
that all assured it was "Vista Compatible."

Well, Vista opening a new world of OS. After continually getting a bad
rap from rollout, you think they would have made it easier on folks
more than a year later. Oh well.

Thanks again.
 
Vista is not getting a worse rap than XP was getting a year and half in.
Folks just forget.

I agree that MS was not able to clean up all the loose ends, but working
with the independent providers must be like herding cats. :)
 
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