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John

I just wondered if there are any flatbed scanners that can handle
medium format film? I can see a lot that can handle 35mm negatives etc
but are there any that can handle medium format?

Cheers

John
 
Several Epson models flatbed models can do medium format films. I
bought an Epson 4490 on E-Bay for about $80 for just that reason, and it
worked great. The 4490 has "Digital ICE", also, which helps a lot when
dealing with color negatives (it doesn't work on most B&W film or many
side films).

[Note1: I got "a deal"; typically, you will pay a lot more than $80 for
a good and complete 4490, even as used on E-Bay, but it's still
relatively cheap ($120 to $180 is more typical)].

[Note2: the Epson 4990 is a FAR more advanced scanner, as are the 700's,
but then the price goes WAY up, into the $300's at least for the 4990,
and over $500 for the 700 series.]
 
I just wondered if there are any flatbed scanners that can handle
medium format film? I can see a lot that can handle 35mm negatives etc
but are there any that can handle medium format?

Cheers

John
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The Epson V700 is a good choice, about $500, will also do sheet film
and reflective scanning. Going up the scale Nikon has the LS9000, a
very good scanner but not always available, not sure if Microtek is
still selling their MF film scanner. Next step is the Imacon scnners
and Creo flatbeds, but be prepared for $10K and up.

Tom
 
Several Epson models flatbed models can do medium format films. I
bought an Epson 4490 on E-Bay for about $80 for just that reason, and it
worked great. The 4490 has "Digital ICE", also, which helps a lot when
dealing with color negatives (it doesn't work on most B&W film or many
side films).

[Note1: I got "a deal"; typically, you will pay a lot more than $80 for
a good and complete 4490, even as used on E-Bay, but it's still
relatively cheap ($120 to $180 is more typical)].

[Note2: the Epson 4990 is a FAR more advanced scanner, as are the 700's,
but then the price goes WAY up, into the $300's at least for the 4990,
and over $500 for the 700 series.]
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Would you choose an old or used 4490 with Digital Ice over a
V100/200/350 new without? It might be worth trying to get hold of a
used 4490 if it saves me a bit of money.

John
 
Would you choose an old or used 4490 with Digital Ice over a
V100/200/350 new without? It might be worth trying to get hold of a
used 4490 if it saves me a bit of money.
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No I would not. For the simple reason the
4490 is not as good as the 4990 and both can
be had for nearly the same moolah nowadays.

As for the V100/200/350, I wouldn't use them
for medium format because they have no means
to scan that size film: their film mounts and path
are for 35mm.

Be aware there is a reason why things like the
Nikon 9000, Imacons and Creos cost a LOT more:
they are a LOT better. I have a 4990 that I used
for quite a while and now have a 9000: there is just
no comparison, no matter what the "reviews"
out there might say...
 
Re: "both can be had for nearly the same moolah nowadays"

Hardly; 4490's are usually $125-$150, and sometimes under $100. 4990's
are in the $300's to almost $500.
 
what software do you use with the 9000?

steve

No I would not. For the simple reason the
4490 is not as good as the 4990 and both can
be had for nearly the same moolah nowadays.

As for the V100/200/350, I wouldn't use them
for medium format because they have no means
to scan that size film: their film mounts and path
are for 35mm.

Be aware there is a reason why things like the
Nikon 9000, Imacons and Creos cost a LOT more:
they are a LOT better. I have a 4990 that I used
for quite a while and now have a 9000: there is just
no comparison, no matter what the "reviews"
out there might say...
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Barry said:
Re: "both can be had for nearly the same moolah nowadays"

Hardly; 4490's are usually $125-$150, and sometimes under $100. 4990's
are in the $300's to almost $500.
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Ever tried ebay?
 
No I would not. For the simple reason the
4490 is not as good as the 4990 and both can
be had for nearly the same moolah nowadays.

As for the V100/200/350, I wouldn't use them
for medium format because they have no means
to scan that size film: their film mounts and path
are for 35mm.

Be aware there is a reason why things like the
Nikon 9000, Imacons and Creos cost a LOT more:
they are a LOT better. I have a 4990 that I used
for quite a while and now have a 9000: there is just
no comparison, no matter what the "reviews"
out there might say...
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Haven't Epson got pretty close to the dedicated machines that cost
thousands more though with their latest V700/750 model?

If you're a professional photographer etc, and in that line of work a
dedicated machine is a good idea. For regular Johns though who just
want to scan some old photos, slides, negatives, and new pictures too,
then I think something that is nearly as good, but a heck of a lot
cheaper is the best option for home use.

Cheers

John
 
could you elaborate as to which is better under what conditions?
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Nikon's allows for better correction of old, damaged film,
with all the Kodak image correction trickery.
For recent images, I prefer to use vuescan, the
monitoring and fine tuning can be done from a MUCH
larger preview and that makes a huge difference:
the very small preview in the Nikon software is
almost useless.
 
Haven't Epson got pretty close to the dedicated machines that cost
thousands more though with their latest V700/750 model?
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Not by a country mile. And I've tried all of them.
If you're a professional photographer etc, and in that line of work a
dedicated machine is a good idea. For regular Johns though who just
want to scan some old photos, slides, negatives, and new pictures too,
then I think something that is nearly as good, but a heck of a lot
cheaper is the best option for home use.
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I disagree. It's pecisely those who need to scan old images
who require a high quality scanner with better correction software.
The Epsons may be low price but they are far from matching
the quality of a good ccd dedicated film scanner. When it comes to
35mm, there is not that much difference in price between say a
coolscan V ED and an Epson v750. The Nikon will do an infinitely
better job at that film size with an old negative or slide than the
Epson
will ever do. Of course, you can't use the Nikon for documents or
prints...
 
That is about the only place I buy things. You need to look at prices
on E-Bay. There is a significant difference between what 4490's and
4990's are going for. About $200, give or take.
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hmmm, not last time I looked here.
Must be a diff between the Australian market
and what others are asking. They are
more likely to differ by 100 bucks or so, in
which case I'd say it's worth going for the 4990.
 
Nikon's allows for better correction of old, damaged film,
with all the Kodak image correction trickery.
For recent images, I prefer to use vuescan, the
monitoring and fine tuning can be done from a MUCH
larger preview and that makes a huge difference:
the very small preview in the Nikon software is
almost useless.
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Eh? The preview in NikonScan can be as large as
your screen allows. At least the Windoze version.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
nope. not in this last version.
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In EVERY version!

The latest Nikon software is version 4.02, which has been around for
just over 3 years now and I have it set to preview at around 2/3 the
screen size, leaving enough room to fit in the control panel.

Every version of NS I have ever used has had user definable preview
sizes, and that goes back to version 1.3 or even earlier!
 
In EVERY version!
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don't know, I don't have all versions.

The latest Nikon software is version 4.02, which has been around for
just over 3 years now and I have it set to preview at around 2/3 the
screen size, leaving enough room to fit in the control panel.
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good for you. I can set vuescan to preview at 1200dpi.
Which gives me an image size AND definition far greater than that.
also: can you pre-set the resolution of the preview with Nikonscan?
Because I have yet to find a way to do so. I don't mean
resize a screen, I mean set the resolution of the preview.

If not, then kindly take your comments and shove
them where the sun doesn't shine: as you're talking to
someone who has been using computers for a lot longer
than you have and scanners for a long time, and I don't
need your silly "I can do that" comments. Try to understand
what was said first.
 
don't know, I don't have all versions.
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Your response raises the question of whether you have used any, let
alone every version.
also: can you pre-set the resolution of the preview with Nikonscan?
Because I have yet to find a way to do so. I don't mean
resize a screen, I mean set the resolution of the preview.
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Yes, it does.
If not, then kindly take your comments and shove
them where the sun doesn't shine: as you're talking to
someone who has been using computers for a lot longer
than you have and scanners for a long time,
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Since you don't know who you are talking to, you comment is meaningless
and you can have it for free. However, before continuing, I suggest you
make some effort to find out - the earliest archives of this newsgroup
should make a good starting point - before making a complete fool of
yourself.
and I don't
need your silly "I can do that" comments.
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Obviously you do, whether you understand that or not, since you are
quite wrongly stating what can and can't be done - and advising others
based on your defective knowledge.
Try to understand what was said first.
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Too late - you're now permanently identified on Google's archives as a
moron!

You said:
"the very small preview in the Nikon software is almost useless"

Rafe said:
"The preview in NikonScan can be as large as your screen allows."

You said:
"nope. not in this last version."

FACT: "This last version" is Nikonscan 4.02. It does EXACTLY what you
denied.
 
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