scanner?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Terry Parker
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I realize what your saying, but I never use scanner captureware, scan right into PS, from twain acquire or wia, anyway hope this
one works for you.
I'n not talking about the capture console. It's the HP control panel
that comes up when ever you aquire twain in Ps or whatever.
HP made the scanner contro; panel very proprietary to the particulr
twains and twunks for this line of scanner's.
It's not enought to install the twain or aspi drivers without HP
control panel, the scanner just won't fire up.(HP got tiredd of third
party scanner ware beating them out on their own scanners and decided
to try and put a lock on this line.)
didn't do any good most of the third parties just scripted new
softeware to accomodate the later HP's.(Just costs so much.)
I did finally get that software downloaded.
Funny thing was I remembered trying to download the same file about 4
months ago and HP kept breaking the connection.(I check way back in my
browser history and suure enough there were 7 different attempts to
download with all being disconnected by HP.)
At that time they weren't allowing long downloads by dial-up.
Glad they changed their mind and that you set me straight.
Maybe I'll get that scanner going now after all.
Thanks again.
 
We are failing to communicate the same scanner your talking about,, I use(as a loaner)...I do not load a control panel or any
scanning software, I use WIA that's built into windows. When I call up the scanner in PS it runs windows scanningware, not Hp's.
Maybe its that you have never seen this or used it, but it is possible to even use a version of Paint, to do this.
 
We are failing to communicate the same scanner your talking about,, I use(as a loaner)...I do not load a control panel or any
scanning software, I use WIA that's built into windows. When I call up the scanner in PS it runs windows scanningware, not Hp's.
Maybe its that you have never seen this or used it, but it is possible to even use a version of Paint, to do this.
What Os are you using? I have win2k pro and it doesn't have any
drivers for this scanner.
 
hmm not sure about 2000 XP has this 'feature'. Wish I could get verbose about it, but I basically know what it does and that much
knowledge was enough. You do have to load the driver,(a.k.a. the small file) then windows has its own 'Interface' as it were, for
scanning. It is basic in structure however, it still has a 'customize' option which pretty much gives you good control. No OCR
though. From within a graphic program you would 'acquire' an image and select the 'twain/WIA' device from a from a dropdown menu.


BTW -I picked up the visioneer 7300 today. very happy with it. Meets my requirements for the house. 20$ office max instant
rebate-59.00$ total out the door. Installed in a snap (btw that's what the USB connector must do when you plug it in on the scanner
side-otherwise no connectivity and lots of impatience will emerge ;^). hinged top for large stuff and no power Pak , USB powered
(2.0 compatible)1.1 reverse compat also (slower).
Very quiet!
 
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Sure if you're doing volume work. If not why pay more?
On my personal computer I use an Epson Perfection 1650 and it's not to
bad, moves fast and is fairly sharp.
My commercial scanners on the other hand are super fast and sharp as a
tack with wide dynamic range and virtually no noise. But then they
cost much more.
My flatbed- 890 bucks(second hand too)
My drum scanner- 14,000 bucks

My 5-year old PlusTech OpticPro 12000T still works just as well as it
did the day I bought it, but I wanted more resolution (max was around
600 dpi), more color information (it's a 32-bit scanner) and greater
speed (reviews written at the time noted that it was the slowest
scanner they had tested).

I just bought (a month ago) an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo. It gives
me great resolution (3200 x 6400 dpi optical), more color information
(48-bit, though the included bundle of Adobe Elements 2.0 and
SilverFast plug-in only support part of that), and greater speed (I
can scan a full sheet of notebook paper at 600 dpi in 12 seconds).
This may be overkill for my application, and I like that. My primary
purpose is to preserve my family photos from the last 40 years (I
don't have the negatives, but if I ever get them, both of my scanners
have attachments for them). I bought the Epson Perfection 3200 Photo
for $400 from Fry's Electronics in Plano, Texas (it has a $100 mail-in
rebate). The Pro version includes the full version of SilverFast and
costs $100 more.

I am very pleased with my Epson. I can now exceed the grain quality of
my family photos, if I choose. My Mom said she used whatever film
happened to be on sale at the time. I doubt that I have any
photographic prints that the Epson could not beat, even my best photos
taken in the last decade. In one review I read, the Epson's scan
quality almost meets that of a dedicated film scanner, and even
exceeded it in one of the scanning tests. I don't think my family uses
that quality of film.
 
JAD said:
hmm not sure about 2000 XP has this 'feature'. Wish I could get verbose about it, but I basically know what it does and that much
knowledge was enough. You do have to load the driver,(a.k.a. the small file) then windows has its own 'Interface' as it were, for
scanning. It is basic in structure however, it still has a 'customize' option which pretty much gives you good control. No OCR
though. From within a graphic program you would 'acquire' an image and select the 'twain/WIA' device from a from a dropdown menu.

I have used Windows 98SE and Windows Me with my old OpticTech. I
captured my scans, usually, using the TWAIN driver for the scanner to
dump directly into PicturePublisher. Picture Publisher was my prefered
graphics application before I got Adobe Elements. I still like Picture
Publisher, but Elements is (similar to) the industry standard, and is
more powerful and much newer, and my PDF files are 10% the size of my
JPGs.

I'm using Adobe Elements on Windows XP, but still using a TWAIN driver
to capture from the scanner.
 
[snip]
Sure if you're doing volume work. If not why pay more?
On my personal computer I use an Epson Perfection 1650 and it's not to
bad, moves fast and is fairly sharp.
My commercial scanners on the other hand are super fast and sharp as a
tack with wide dynamic range and virtually no noise. But then they
cost much more.
My flatbed- 890 bucks(second hand too)
My drum scanner- 14,000 bucks

My 5-year old PlusTech OpticPro 12000T still works just as well as it
did the day I bought it, but I wanted more resolution (max was around
600 dpi), more color information (it's a 32-bit scanner) and greater
speed (reviews written at the time noted that it was the slowest
scanner they had tested).

I just bought (a month ago) an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo. It gives
me great resolution (3200 x 6400 dpi optical), more color information
(48-bit, though the included bundle of Adobe Elements 2.0 and
SilverFast plug-in only support part of that), and greater speed (I
can scan a full sheet of notebook paper at 600 dpi in 12 seconds).
This may be overkill for my application, and I like that. My primary
purpose is to preserve my family photos from the last 40 years (I
don't have the negatives, but if I ever get them, both of my scanners
have attachments for them). I bought the Epson Perfection 3200 Photo
for $400 from Fry's Electronics in Plano, Texas (it has a $100 mail-in
rebate). The Pro version includes the full version of SilverFast and
costs $100 more.

I am very pleased with my Epson. I can now exceed the grain quality of
my family photos, if I choose. My Mom said she used whatever film
happened to be on sale at the time. I doubt that I have any
photographic prints that the Epson could not beat, even my best photos
taken in the last decade. In one review I read, the Epson's scan
quality almost meets that of a dedicated film scanner, and even
exceeded it in one of the scanning tests. I don't think my family uses
that quality of film.

Great! glad your happy with you scanner.
You have a sound approach inre to your scanner. i.e. it does a good
job for you.
Many get to invoved in the technical aspects when running a few scans
would tell or not inre quality imaging.
I have an old Relisys scorpio that I use for much of my non-critical
scans. It's optical rsolution is quite low, 300x1200.
But for scns not needing more than 300 dpi it produces the lowest
noise image short of my drum unit.
By not trying to squeeze to many pickup sensors onto the ccd arm they
avoided making a noisy pickup unit.(Early on in flatbed tech ccd
pickups were prone to noisefrom adjacent sensors. This crosstalk
resulted in alot of color distortion and loss of resolution in the
scan.)
untill just the past few years 600dpi was pretty much the ceiling on
optical without introducing all sorts of noise problems.
My scorpio still holds up well against later models in color
fidelity,DR and noise levels.
I use it for low end publishing, inkjet and web work.
 
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