M
magineer02
P.s. The modem is a Verizon model GT704-WGB
R
R
P
Paul
See page 12.
GT704-WGB
http://support.actiontec.com/doc_files/GT704-WG-B_Vz_User_Manual_30.15.0.pdf
There is a yellow connector block on the back, labeled "1 2 3 4".
Those are your *LAN* ports. Using Ethernet cables, plug the 8200 into
the yellow section. Then plug the 8500 into one of the yellow holes.
You don't even need to turn off the 8500 to do it - you can plug in
the Ethernet port "hot" because it is transformer isolated.
The four yellow holes allow up to four computers to be wired
to your Verizon modem/router at the same time! No need for
hubs or switches or the like. All you need, is a cable.
So you could do machine to machine transfer, via the yellow
network connectors on your Verizon modem/router.
Check the 8500 box, to see if it came with an Ethernet cable
or not.
That means, in the Windows Easy Transfer, you have another
means of transferring files, and no screwdriver will be needed
A simple network to network transfer is all that is needed.
*******
There are some reviews here, of "out-of-the-box" experience. There
seem to be a few display issues with XPS 8500. It's the nature of
complicated things, to raise a stink.
http://reviews.dell.com/2341n/xps-8500/dell-xps-8500-reviews/reviews.htm?page=2&sort=rating&dir=asc
Check the supplied cables. See if there is VGA, HDMI, or DVI cables,
whether the monitor has connectors like those. You can try connecting
one, and one only, cable from the computer to the monitor. But if
the VGA port didn't work, you could try DVI or HDMI.
*******
OK, moving on, I found manuals.
(Manuals for 8500)
http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/product/xps-8500
Quick start guide.
ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_xps_desktop/xps-8500_Setup%20Guide2_en-us.pdf
Looking at the quick start guide, the I/O plate area has a VGA
and a HDMI connector. Those are motherboard video options. If
your machine includes an optional video card, look for video card
connectors on one of the four card slots, below the I/O plate.
If a video card is populated in one of the four slots, it takes
priority on video. You connect your monitor cable to the video card.
If, on the other hand, you didn't buy an optional video card, and
are using motherboard video for some reason, then you'd use the VGA
or HDMI connectors in the I/O plate area.
According to the Quick Start, there is very little to connect.
Just ignore the multiple languages printed on that "card",
look at the English, and follow the instructions.
So my suspicion is, you have multiple video card sources,
and you should switch to the other interface.
I'm sending this now, so you can give it a try.
Paul
P
Paul
The back of your computer, could look like this.
If if does look like this, connect the monitor to the video card
(lower set of connectors in the picture).
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2084/xps8500back.jpg
*******
And this is the chipset on your new system. The
Dell system specs say it is H77. This is a block
diagram of what it supports. The most impressive
part, is it can support up to four USB3 ports.
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/images/product/h77-blockdiagram.jpg
Paul
If if does look like this, connect the monitor to the video card
(lower set of connectors in the picture).
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2084/xps8500back.jpg
*******
And this is the chipset on your new system. The
Dell system specs say it is H77. This is a block
diagram of what it supports. The most impressive
part, is it can support up to four USB3 ports.
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/images/product/h77-blockdiagram.jpg
Paul
M
magineer02
Ok, it was a stupid mistake(forgot to power the monitor on)the buttons wereso damn small I didn't even notice them on the side and Dell did not provide any manuals and none to tell me what each of the buttons mean? I didn't attach my speakers yet or my ergonomic keyboard since I'm still using them on the 8200.
At any rate I got it going and have configured the 8500 as far as I'm able.I updated all the Microsoft updates and activated McAfee so that I could uninstall it asap and switch to the Microsoft firewall and Avast/Spywareblaster.
In passing, I also noticed that I can't name a Guest Account like I can on XP, it just stays as Guest which is the account I use to surf the Internet and use my Administrator Account just for downloading/installation.
So am now set for the next set of instructions.
Thanks,
Robert
At any rate I got it going and have configured the 8500 as far as I'm able.I updated all the Microsoft updates and activated McAfee so that I could uninstall it asap and switch to the Microsoft firewall and Avast/Spywareblaster.
In passing, I also noticed that I can't name a Guest Account like I can on XP, it just stays as Guest which is the account I use to surf the Internet and use my Administrator Account just for downloading/installation.
So am now set for the next set of instructions.
Thanks,
Robert
D
dadiOH
David said:
It also might have an on/off button. OP is now 3-F (free to flounder
forever)
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M
magineer02
What is the key? I use Commander not Robert, so would it be commander to commander, correct? Also, I have Windows 7 Professional not Windows 8. I will wait for your answer regarding the key and naming before I pull the HD.
Thanks,
Robert
M
magineer02
the key is the slot on the card correct?
R
M
magineer02
I noticed that the 8500 has multiple USB ports
and some are 2.0 and others are 3.0 and one is
a 2.0 with power share. Does it make a difference
which one I use?
Thanks,
Robert
and some are 2.0 and others are 3.0 and one is
a 2.0 with power share. Does it make a difference
which one I use?
Thanks,
Robert
B
Barry Schwarz
If it didn't, it would mean they labeled the ports differently just to
confuse you.
M
magineer02
Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and then connected the it to the 8500 via USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or anything. I waited several minutes, tried rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this several times.
To make matters worst my 8200 now will not boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light on the front it has a flashing yellow light.
Great, now I'm worst off than I was before. I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able to get around with no links or anything.
So now what am I to do?
Thoughts, Suggestions?
Robert
To make matters worst my 8200 now will not boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light on the front it has a flashing yellow light.
Great, now I'm worst off than I was before. I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able to get around with no links or anything.
So now what am I to do?
Thoughts, Suggestions?
Robert
M
magineer02
Ok, I removed the HD from the 8200 and
attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and
then connected the it to the 8500 via
USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or
anything. I waited several minutes, tried
rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this
several times.
To make matters worst my 8200 now will not
boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light
on the front it has a flashing yellow light.
Great, now I'm worst off than I was before.
I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able
to get around with no links or anything.
So now what am I to do?
Thoughts, Suggestions?
Robert
attached the SATA/IDE cable to it and
then connected the it to the 8500 via
USB connection. Nothing, no pop-ups or
anything. I waited several minutes, tried
rebooting etc still nothing. I tried this
several times.
To make matters worst my 8200 now will not
boot or anything!@! Insteas of a green light
on the front it has a flashing yellow light.
Great, now I'm worst off than I was before.
I'm writing this on the 8500 but barely able
to get around with no links or anything.
So now what am I to do?
Thoughts, Suggestions?
Robert
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
By "favorite links" I presume you mean web addresses that you commonly
use in your browser (Internet Explorer, or any other browser that can
use IE favo(u)rites).
By "data from My Documents" I assume you mean the contents of the "My
Documents" folder.
If I'm right in the above, then others have already explained how to do
it.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
By "favorite links" I presume you mean web addresses that you commonly
use in your browser (Internet Explorer, or any other browser that can
use IE favo(u)rites).
By "data from My Documents" I assume you mean the contents of the "My
Documents" folder.
If I'm right in the above, then others have already explained how to do
it.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
(I've seen your later post where you explained that it was a hidden
power switch that was the problem.)
Those are memory card slots. Nice to have, not important to the current
discussions though (unless you use a memory card to carry data over).
SM is SmartMedia - a very old type! xD is used by some Fuji cameras.
Compact Flash/minidisc - less used now, though some very high end
cameras use them.
SD is the commonest memory card shape. I don't recognise RS. The light
is puzzling - are you sure it is definitely associated with the card
slot?
Memory Stick and its variants - used by Sony cameras.
I don't know the APC device; for now, if devices are plugged in through
it and are working, I guess you can carry on using it, though I'd
suggest you try to find the fault before too long. Probably a tedious
exercise though, involving going round the house unplugging things (or
turning off circuits at the main fusebox or distribution unit) until you
find the fault.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
(I've seen your later post where you explained that it was a hidden
power switch that was the problem.)
Those are memory card slots. Nice to have, not important to the current
discussions though (unless you use a memory card to carry data over).
SM is SmartMedia - a very old type! xD is used by some Fuji cameras.
Compact Flash/minidisc - less used now, though some very high end
cameras use them.
SD is the commonest memory card shape. I don't recognise RS. The light
is puzzling - are you sure it is definitely associated with the card
slot?
Memory Stick and its variants - used by Sony cameras.
I don't know the APC device; for now, if devices are plugged in through
it and are working, I guess you can carry on using it, though I'd
suggest you try to find the fault before too long. Probably a tedious
exercise though, involving going round the house unplugging things (or
turning off circuits at the main fusebox or distribution unit) until you
find the fault.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
with those they won't be available for things that can benefit from
them). For your IDE to USB adapter, _probably_ not either, as I suspect
that won't be USB 3 (if it is, it'll just run slower if you plug it into
a 2). I'm not sure what the power share means - it could be one of two
things.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's
Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
For keyboard and mouse, no (other than that if you use up the 3.0 ones
with those they won't be available for things that can benefit from
them). For your IDE to USB adapter, _probably_ not either, as I suspect
that won't be USB 3 (if it is, it'll just run slower if you plug it into
a 2). I'm not sure what the power share means - it could be one of two
things.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's
Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
See below.
Assuming you have the hard disc still connected, it won't boot without
it (though I'd expect to see _some_ screens when you turn it on).
talking a desktop drive here: the data cable (the SATA/IDE one [which is
it by the way? [E]IDE is a 40 or 80 way ribbon cable, SATA is a much
smaller one), and the power cable (probably four big pins, certainly if
it's an EIDE drive). The power cable will come from the power supply
included in the SATA/IDE to USB kit, as DHL (!) says above; note that,
of course, that this power supply will also have to have a power lead
plugged into it (it probably has a light on it to show it's receiving
power). As DHL says, you will feel vibrations from the drive when power
is applied to it (and probably hear it running if you put your ear to
it).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's
Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
Assuming you have the hard disc still connected, it won't boot without
it (though I'd expect to see _some_ screens when you turn it on).
The drive will have to have _two_ cables going to it, assuming we're
talking a desktop drive here: the data cable (the SATA/IDE one [which is
it by the way? [E]IDE is a 40 or 80 way ribbon cable, SATA is a much
smaller one), and the power cable (probably four big pins, certainly if
it's an EIDE drive). The power cable will come from the power supply
included in the SATA/IDE to USB kit, as DHL (!) says above; note that,
of course, that this power supply will also have to have a power lead
plugged into it (it probably has a light on it to show it's receiving
power). As DHL says, you will feel vibrations from the drive when power
is applied to it (and probably hear it running if you put your ear to
it).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's
Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
M
magineer02
I'm willing to admit when I've made mistakes
but as I said I tried this several times and
I took my time.
I hooked up the 8200 HD just as you describe with
the power source and SATA/IDE adaptor and checked,
and rechecked it.
I will give it another shot tomorrow and see if I
can get this going.
Actually I'm more concerned that the 8200 has 'died'.
Even if I messed up the connections on the 8500 the
8200 should still function and it doesn't.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks,
Robert
but as I said I tried this several times and
I took my time.
I hooked up the 8200 HD just as you describe with
the power source and SATA/IDE adaptor and checked,
and rechecked it.
I will give it another shot tomorrow and see if I
can get this going.
Actually I'm more concerned that the 8200 has 'died'.
Even if I messed up the connections on the 8500 the
8200 should still function and it doesn't.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks,
Robert
M
magineer02
There was no vibration or anything when power
was applied to the 8200 HD with the SATA/IDE
adator and power cord connected.
As I said, I tried this several times with no
result but am going to try again.
Robert
was applied to the 8200 HD with the SATA/IDE
adator and power cord connected.
As I said, I tried this several times with no
result but am going to try again.
Robert
M
magineer02
I tried again with the same results.
The only thing I didn't do was use the
driver disc that came with the adaptor.
It says that Win ME/200/XP/2003 (no
need to install driver) so I assume I
didn't need to.
However to cover all the bases I inserted
the disc and this is what it says:
DVD-RW Drive D: Driver
Mixed content options
Play using media player
Import pictures and video's using
Windows
Import pictures and Video's using
photo gallery
View Pictures using Photo Gallery
then it says General Options
Open folder to view files using
Windows Explorer
None of these seem appropriate.
According to the instructions; once
connected the new hardware 'USB' Mass
Storage Device will be installed
automatically, and Driver icon is
created at 'my Computer'
I assume this means a pop-up on the
desktop or am I incorrect?
In any case the adapter doesn't seem
to be functioning. The red light is on
showing that it's getting power but aside
from that I see no activity.
As an alternative, I did try exporting
my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
all this happened. So if I can't get this
to work maybe you can tell me how I can
import the links from the disc?
Otherwise I'll just have to start all over.
thoughts/suggestions?
Robert
The only thing I didn't do was use the
driver disc that came with the adaptor.
It says that Win ME/200/XP/2003 (no
need to install driver) so I assume I
didn't need to.
However to cover all the bases I inserted
the disc and this is what it says:
DVD-RW Drive D: Driver
Mixed content options
Play using media player
Import pictures and video's using
Windows
Import pictures and Video's using
photo gallery
View Pictures using Photo Gallery
then it says General Options
Open folder to view files using
Windows Explorer
None of these seem appropriate.
According to the instructions; once
connected the new hardware 'USB' Mass
Storage Device will be installed
automatically, and Driver icon is
created at 'my Computer'
I assume this means a pop-up on the
desktop or am I incorrect?
In any case the adapter doesn't seem
to be functioning. The red light is on
showing that it's getting power but aside
from that I see no activity.
As an alternative, I did try exporting
my links to a DVD-RW a few months before
all this happened. So if I can't get this
to work maybe you can tell me how I can
import the links from the disc?
Otherwise I'll just have to start all over.
thoughts/suggestions?
Robert
P
Paul
We know you forgot a wire.
It could be this one. I can't find a manual, anywhere.
http://www.esaitech.com/images/deta...DE_Converter_Cable_Adapter_(ADA-2020-OTB).jpg
This would be the connections for 2.5" or 3.5" SATA drives.
(7 pin)
Comp_USB ------- Adapter ----- sata_data_cable --------- disk_data_port_7_pin
AC_Power ---- Molex_1x4 --- Molex_to_Sata_Power --- disk_power_port_15_pin
This would be the setup for a 3.5" IDE. 3.5" IDE uses
a 40 pin connector, on 0.1" centers. Power is via
a 1x4 Molex.
(40 pin)
Comp_USB---------Adapter ----------------------------- disk_40_pin_ide
AC_Power ---- Molex_1x4 --------------------------- disk_1x4_Molex_power
If connecting a laptop 2.5" IDE drive, the laptop 44 pin
connector carries both power and data. Since the 2020-OTB
adapter lacks a power input, and no additional adapters
are shown, the 2020-OTB kit expects to power the 2.5" drive,
using the USB bus power. All that the kit allows doing
in this case, is this. And this is not guaranteed to work
for all 2.5" hard drives, as some draw too much power.
(44 pin)
Comp_USB---------Adapter ----------------------------- disk_44_pin_ide_2.5"
If you're using a 3.5" hard drive, check the power cabling.
HTH,
Paul
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
It's a 7 or 8 system you're using it on isn't it - are you sure it works
at all on 7 or 8?
That sounds like the standard popup when you insert any CD.
When you plug in the USB to SATA/IDE adaptor, do you get _any_
indication that the PC has detected it - ding-dong sound, "new hardware
detected" popup, other? If so, does it then ask for a driver?
icon".)
In XP, you would be incorrect: it means if you open the "My Computer"
icon (by default at top left of your screen), you'll see an extra drive.
I'm not sure of the situation on 7/8, though I think 7 at least uses
something similar.
(I'll let the others tackle this bit as I don't know IE, certainly not
the 7/8 versions. Probably worth saying how you exported them -
importing may be a similar exercise.)
[]
It's a 7 or 8 system you're using it on isn't it - are you sure it works
at all on 7 or 8?
That sounds like the standard popup when you insert any CD.
When you plug in the USB to SATA/IDE adaptor, do you get _any_
indication that the PC has detected it - ding-dong sound, "new hardware
detected" popup, other? If so, does it then ask for a driver?
(I assume that's a misprint - or miskey on your part - for "drive
icon".)
In XP, you would be incorrect: it means if you open the "My Computer"
icon (by default at top left of your screen), you'll see an extra drive.
I'm not sure of the situation on 7/8, though I think 7 at least uses
something similar.
(I'll let the others tackle this bit as I don't know IE, certainly not
the 7/8 versions. Probably worth saying how you exported them -
importing may be a similar exercise.)
[]