samsung toner refill

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Michael said:
Arthur Entlich wrote:



The carbon black used in most OEM toners is not some inexpensive grade
but has to pass safety tests such as the Ames evaluation for mutagens.
The black used in the aftermarket is not tested for all known hazards.

Are you saying that the generic toners for laser has the similar lack of
quality that the generic ink has for inkjets and the relabelers do not
disclose what is being sold properly and are not properly testing them
like the oems. Are you saying that there may be a safetly problem as
well with generic lasers. That would be good to know.
 
measekite said:
Are you saying that the generic toners for laser has the similar lack of
quality that the generic ink has for inkjets and the relabelers do not
disclose what is being sold properly and are not properly testing them
like the oems. Are you saying that there may be a safetly problem as
well with generic lasers. That would be good to know.

Another useless post...over 5500 to date.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "this." I can say with certainty that my
old HP3 stunk up the place from the ozone that it emitted unless I had
managed to find a _good_ ozone filter for it. The two Oki LED printers
I've used subsequently and the Brother simply don't do this. Now, on the
other hand, my Sharper Image Ionic Breeze air cleaners, were advertised
to emit "...a healthful amount of ozone." And man do they reek of it!
Just like Consumer Reports said. So, I think that a lot of today's
Xerography printers are very cool in this regard.

Sorry, I forgot to specify, I meant the temperature. I know the ozone
is a problem (benefit?) with older ones, go into a copy shop that's
got an old machine still in use and you can really smell it.
One of the complaints I've been

PCB = Printed Circuit Board?
Do you mean that the circuit boards are failing? How are they failing?
(I'm asking because of my interest in audio.)

Yes, circuit boards. Not that the boards are failing, but that the
toner is failing to transfer to the metal. Basically, you print a
mirror image onto the stock you've chosen (commercial transfer sheets,
glossy magazine paper, or inkjet photo paper, which may or may not
horribly damage your laser printer), iron it onto the board, and
either peel it off, or soak it in water until it seperates from the
toner (scrubbing may be necessary). The biggest part of the discussion
tends to be which papers have the best transfer percentage (I get over
95% with HP Glossy Photo Laser Paper and a Xerox DocuColor 12).
Staples Inkjet Photo Paper is often brought up as a good transfer
paper. Some of the new Brother lasers won't work with papers that were
proven to work well with older laser printers. You can iron or run it
through a laminator 'till the cows come home and the toner just won't
stick to the metal at all.
I wonder if there's any such thing as "usual temperatures" for most or
all contemporary electrostatic printers. If so, what?

I don't think there was a 'usual temperature', but I think there is a
temperature that most lasers, at least older ones, did not exceed.
Office Depot had a sale on Brother lasers for $50 or so, and a whole
bunch of people bought them and found out the toner simply will not
transfer - it won't re-melt. I have also heard that newer Lexmark
lasers may also be a problem. A modified laminator, usually with the
temperature raised, or a laser fuser assembly out of a broken printer,
seem to be the best to use to transfer (though I use a laminator
without modification). If the melting point of the toner is far higher
than it was before, you can be stuck with an expensive laminator that
won't work any longer. If you iron it on, you can still raise the heat
on the iron (though this will often scorch the transfer sheet long
before the toner remelts, and ironing often results in bad transfers
do to the uneven pressure). Of course, the easiest solution is to
return the printer that won't work and buy one that does. I don't even
have a laser, the commercial Xerox DocuColor 12 that every Staples in
the area has provides nearly 100% perfect transfers for me. At
$.06/copy, I'd have to make thousands of prints before it would be
worth buying a laser for it.


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Fenrir said:
Yes, circuit boards. Not that the boards are failing, but that the
toner is failing to transfer to the metal. Basically, you print a
mirror image onto the stock you've chosen (commercial transfer sheets,
glossy magazine paper, or inkjet photo paper, which may or may not
horribly damage your laser printer), iron it onto the board, and
either peel it off, or soak it in water until it seperates from the
toner (scrubbing may be necessary). The biggest part of the discussion
tends to be which papers have the best transfer percentage (I get over
95% with HP Glossy Photo Laser Paper and a Xerox DocuColor 12).
Staples Inkjet Photo Paper is often brought up as a good transfer
paper. Some of the new Brother lasers won't work with papers that were
proven to work well with older laser printers. You can iron or run it
through a laminator 'till the cows come home and the toner just won't
stick to the metal at all.




I don't think there was a 'usual temperature', but I think there is a
temperature that most lasers, at least older ones, did not exceed.
Office Depot had a sale on Brother lasers for $50 or so, and a whole
bunch of people bought them and found out the toner simply will not
transfer - it won't re-melt. I have also heard that newer Lexmark
lasers may also be a problem. A modified laminator, usually with the
temperature raised, or a laser fuser assembly out of a broken printer,
seem to be the best to use to transfer (though I use a laminator
without modification). If the melting point of the toner is far higher
than it was before, you can be stuck with an expensive laminator that
won't work any longer. If you iron it on, you can still raise the heat
on the iron (though this will often scorch the transfer sheet long
before the toner remelts, and ironing often results in bad transfers
do to the uneven pressure). Of course, the easiest solution is to
return the printer that won't work and buy one that does. I don't even
have a laser, the commercial Xerox DocuColor 12 that every Staples in
the area has provides nearly 100% perfect transfers for me. At
$.06/copy, I'd have to make thousands of prints before it would be
worth buying a laser for it.

This begins to sound like a chemical reaction to me, and a clever way to
ensure that it'll be damn hard for anyone in the aftermarket toner
business to brew up a batch of compatible toner, and especially to sell
such compatible toner at a competitive price! A nifty way to have a
captive market.

I've noticed that aftermarket toner, for example, exists for my Okidata
12i printer. However, the cost of reloaded cartridges is so close to the
OEMs that there's no point in buying it. I don't know the specifics, but
it does seem that not everyone has been running to buy Okidata LED
printers, so it's not like there's a huge market for the stuff. It's
doubtful that I'll buy another one.

Richard
 
Hi Davy,
sure does print.

Obviously once the drum goes thats it... a new printer or a new
toner....but I did come across a UK site that sold replacement drums
for this around £8 (and other models) - can I find thet site again...
no..!

Far as I can see the Samsung series of lowcost printers the drum is
integrated into the toner cartridge, you get a new drum with ever cartridge
you buy. You used ML however are you sure you have the makers name correct,
perhaps you ment OKI ML-1510?
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OK, hold it right there. Are you talking about children as well?
How about pregnant women? Your home or office is your domain, but
if your kids come over to play with mine, THERE WILL BE NO
INGESTING OF TONER. Help yourself to anything you find in the
fridge.


On that we agree.


Stop fretting. Almost anything we encounter can be dangerous in
certain circumstances (you can even drink too much water to the point
of danger).

Be sensible about handling toner and there is minimal danger.
 
Wow. That's sure a low price for a printer. Is it a Samsung?

Bottom end Samsungs (ML-1610, ML-1520, ML1510) can sometimes be sold for
50 UK Pounds. Several outlets will offer it at this price.

Samsung then want you to buy their cartridges which cost about 45 UK
Pounds!
 
Sorry just read your reply...... Yep a Samsung ML1510 a de-lux
bread bin... but it sure does work and I clobber it making PCB's
using toner transfer paper.

When I ditched the proverbial C62 after a couple of failure's (this
saga now ended) I was looking for a printer and came across this at
Dabs Computers in Bolton UK, an offer I could not resist the price
quoted inc. the delevery and 12 months warranty... all brand new.

Would I but a Epson C62 nope, would I buy another Samsung yep.....
the toner assembley is around œ60 lol, so this and the Canon ip5000
are my main printers.... once the ol' fuser has warmed up it's just
as fast as the Canon... ok the DPI ain't nothing to write home
about but it sure does print.

Obviously once the drum goes thats it... a new printer or a new
toner....but I did come across a UK site that sold replacement
drums for this around œ8 (and other models) - can I find thet site
again... no..!


Hey. Keep looking as a cheap drum in the UK for a Samsung ML-1510
would be a really great find.

However if you open the original Samsung ML-1510 starter cartridge
(5 screws, no glue, no tricky catches, dead simple)
you see some every cheap looking foam acting as the seal between the
top half and the bottom half. I would have been so much happier with
rubber instead!

Cleaning the inside was not a terribly dirty job (though your hands
get messy). You need somewhere to store the existing toner and an
old toothbrush which is used dry. Watch out for the sharp edge all
along the side of one of the rollers.

Got hugely improved clarity in the printed type! Was just on the
edge of throwing the cartridge (and printer) away and getting an OKI
B4100.
 
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