Running Dual Boot with 98SE and XP Pro SP1

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TomG said:
did you check to see if you can affect the settings at all from within the
IAA app?
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Yes, I did, Tom. the only thing I can affect in IAA is the Transfer Mode
Limit which is the only header that has a "wrench" icon, I guess telling me
that is the only thing that is user-adjustable. The current limit is set to
"no limit". But the only other choices are a bunch of PIO modes and then
the UDMA 0-1-2 limits. If you need a snap of what I'm seeing, I have
CamStudio and other screen capture apps. The IAA itself even lists the
DVD-RAM drive as supporting UDMA modes 0 - 1- 2. It reports there is no
support for DMA SW and it only supports DMA MW modes of 0-1-2. Tom, I'm
beginning to believe that this unit is just not capable of ATA66 despite the
"proud" claim that it does so as one of its' selling features. The drive is
a LG GSA-4040B. If you go to their site, you'll see the same thing I read.
It's either this, or my Abit mobo is now no longer supporting high-speed IDE
channels(at least on 1 & 2). I wonder if the RAID on 3 & 4 are interfering
with the UDMA channels.

Ron
 
Ron said:
The point is, I want what I paid for regardless of how much faster or not
it is. It is advertised as an ATA66 device, and damn it I should receive as
advertised. The BIOS doesn't even report the device as a UDMA66 at all.
Regardless of what the percieved benefits are, I'm sick and tired of false
advertising. Furthermore, it may be the case that there is absolutely
nothing wrong with the drive and it is my system settings that are at fault.
If making this unit operate at specs helps me to clear up a problem with my
settings, then that's good too. If you can't help me with what I'm trying to
accomplish, please refrain from noise-making. Thank you.
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Aah, so it is OK for you to make a lot of noise about nothing but not for me, eh!
If you don't like a discussion, don't come to a discussion group.
 
Ron said:
Yes, I did, Tom. the only thing I can affect in IAA is the Transfer Mode
Limit which is the only header that has a "wrench" icon, I guess telling me
that is the only thing that is user-adjustable. The current limit is set to
"no limit". But the only other choices are a bunch of PIO modes and then
the UDMA 0-1-2 limits. If you need a snap of what I'm seeing, I have
CamStudio and other screen capture apps. The IAA itself even lists the
DVD-RAM drive as supporting UDMA modes 0 - 1- 2. It reports there is no
support for DMA SW and it only supports DMA MW modes of 0-1-2. Tom, I'm
beginning to believe that this unit is just not capable of ATA66 despite the
"proud" claim that it does so as one of its' selling features. The drive is
a LG GSA-4040B. If you go to their site, you'll see the same thing I read.
It's either this, or my Abit mobo is now no longer supporting high-speed IDE
channels(at least on 1 & 2). I wonder if the RAID on 3 & 4 are interfering
with the UDMA channels.

Ron
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I am quite sure that the Highpoint controller (ide 3 & 4) is not interfering
with ide 1 & 2 WRT UDMA modes. If the IAA says no limit, that is the same
as setting the Advanced tab in device manager to UDMA Mode 5 if available.

if the IAA says that your drive supports UDMA modes 0-1-2 then that is
saying that when the device is interrogated, it tells the IAA what it is
capable of and that is it. UDMA mode 4 isn't in the list and neither is
UDMA mode 3 (ATA33) so that sort of speaks for itself. I'd say the device
is not capable of doing ATA66. now, I have seen optical devices that have a
jumper that it required to be set to enable higher UDMA modes so you might
want to check for that...


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and your post was an equal waste of bandwidth given it for no other reason
except to be a bitch.
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Equal? 8<<104, you know. I guess your math skills are commensurate
with your posting abilities.
 
chrisv said:
Equal? 8<<104, you know. I guess your math skills are commensurate
with your posting abilities.
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Oh My ...

run out of Midol ... pads ... have "we" ???

have a 'nice' day , Dearie,
Qed.
 
TomG said:
wanna clarify your comments for me there, Folkert?
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"No, it does not! Try again."

Better so?
we, uh, agree (?) on that, I think.
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2 distinct transfer modes, (somewhat) warranting the need of a jumper.
Not so likely to have a jumper for different speeds within a same transfer mode.
 
Tom, ignore them. Now get a load of this. I tried three optical drives with
Nero Drive Speed using the Burst Mode test. My Pioneer DVR-A05 gets 6MB/s
with an audio CD but it's in an external USB enclosure and uses USB 1.1 so
that speed is acceptable. My Lite-On 48125W CD-RW is on IDE 1 as Master with
a HDD as slave. With the same audio CD, it gets 18MB/s. And that's not
exactly the best order or combo for an IDE channel. Not bad at all for an
ATAPI device that supposedly gets only half the rated speed(ATA33). But the
LG GSA4040B on its' own separate IDE 2 channel, alone, and set to Master
gets 0MB/s!!! That's no typo. The burst rate was so slow(365Kb/s) that it
reported a 0 MB/s burst speed. What I'm saying is, that I think the drive is
porked. Would you agree?

Ron
 
Clueless! 6MB/s on USB 1.1?

Do the math for audio. 44.1K/s * 4B * 48X = 8.5MB/s. That's 1/4 of UDMA-33.

|
| Tom, ignore them. Now get a load of this. I tried three optical drives with
| Nero Drive Speed using the Burst Mode test. My Pioneer DVR-A05 gets 6MB/s
| with an audio CD but it's in an external USB enclosure and uses USB 1.1 so
| that speed is acceptable. My Lite-On 48125W CD-RW is on IDE 1 as Master with
| a HDD as slave. With the same audio CD, it gets 18MB/s. And that's not
| exactly the best order or combo for an IDE channel. Not bad at all for an
| ATAPI device that supposedly gets only half the rated speed(ATA33). But the
| LG GSA4040B on its' own separate IDE 2 channel, alone, and set to Master
| gets 0MB/s!!! That's no typo. The burst rate was so slow(365Kb/s) that it
| reported a 0 MB/s burst speed. What I'm saying is, that I think the drive is
| porked. Would you agree?
 
|
| | > Clueless! 6MB/s on USB 1.1?
| >
| > Do the math for audio. 44.1K/s * 4B * 48X = 8.5MB/s. That's 1/4 of
| UDMA-33.
| >
|
| What's 4B?

44.1K samples times 4 bytes per sample. 48X is unlikely for audio extraction.
 
Ron said:
Tom, ignore them.
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Now get a load of this.
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A load of crap, no doubt. No thanks.
I tried three optical drives with Nero Drive Speed using the Burst Mode test.
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Nero Drive Speed huh? Couldn't even get that right.
My Pioneer DVR-A05 gets 6MB/s with an audio CD but it's in an external
USB enclosure and uses USB 1.1 so that speed is acceptable.
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Thanks for confirming that you are really clueless.
USB 1.1 is limited to less than 1 MB/s, smartass.
My Lite-On 48125W CD-RW is on IDE 1 as Master with
a HDD as slave. With the same audio CD, it gets 18MB/s.
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Let me guess, you actually think that is pretty good.
And that's not exactly the best order or combo for an IDE channel.
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Too bad that it is only burst rate, clueless.
If it had been STR you would have had an 120x CDRom drive.
Not bad at all for an ATAPI device that sup-
posedly gets only half the rated speed (ATA33).
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Dream on, sucker. That applies to STR, sustained transfer rate, not burst.
Burst should be near the interface rate.
But the LG GSA4040B on its' own separate IDE 2 channel, alone, and set to
Master gets 0MB/s!!! That's no typo. The burst rate was so slow(365Kb/s)
that it reported a 0 MB/s burst speed.
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What I'm saying is, that I think the drive is porked.
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Yeah, it obviously can't be Nero Drive Speed. Oops, it isn't.
Would you agree?
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If he wants to be laughing stock, sure.
 
the point was, your post was nothing but a rag. just as your most recent
post was... an unsolicited rag.

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you guys are a real piece of work. I can't remember such a condescending
attitude.

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over 118,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
 
TomG said:
you guys are a real piece of work. I can't remember such a condescending
attitude.
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:-)
You're just jealouse ... green with envy.

Your problem is
that you've not yet mastered irrumatio
as these "folker_s" have.

Qed.
 
TomG said:
you guys are a real piece of work.
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I can't remember such a condescending attitude.
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And what a short memory you have.

Remember that "**** off bozo", just a month ago?
Or was that your alter ego, the one that you have no control over?

[snip]
 
Folkert said:
And what a short memory you have.
Remember that "**** off bozo", just a month ago?
Or was that your alter ego, the one that you have no control over?
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ROTFLMFAO!!!

`Smatter "Dearie" ...
.. lose yer Day Pass ... ??
.. no spare 'pads' ... ??
.. else ???

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Poor TomG ...
you got him at 'unfair advantage' ...
hes only got one set of 'lips' to piss&moan with ...
Dearie 'dear'.

Qed.
 
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