Ridisc and Datasafe ink & SVP?

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Having just gone to order some more I see that SVP have suspended sales of
all Epson compatibles, with no information why
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Epson patent problems. I suppose these cartridges won't sold anymore.

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Santa said:
In which case I suppose Epson can kiss goodbye to their market share too.
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NOPE, THE MAJORITY OF THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO BUY EPSON PRINTERS USE
EPSON INK. ONLY THE FEW IDIOTS WHO WANT TO BUCK THE SYSTEM WILL CHANGE
BUT SOON THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING TO CHANGE TO BECAUSE THE MORONS WHO SELL
AND RELABEL INK ARE DO NOT CONDUCT BUSINESS FOR THE LONG TERM. THEY ARE
VERY SHORTSIDED.
 
IT IS WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING
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Regardless of any published technical specs, or lack thereof, if one gets
what everyone else seems to like, chances are they will work fine for
them, if they know what to expect based on the experiences of people that
have actually used the product, rather than trusting the lame musings of
a troll.

If people have been saying a particular brand of aftermarket inks has
clogged up their printers, one can take that as advice to avoid that
product. On the other hand, if people have reported good experiences with
an aftermarket in company, one can take that into advisement as choice.

Now, if someone blindy keeps saying to buy OEM, claiminf aftermarket
clogs, and give to evidience to that statement, they person should not
really be trusted.
 
Gary said:
Regardless of any published technical specs, or lack thereof, if one gets
what everyone else seems to like, chances are they will work fine for
them, if they know what to expect based on the experiences of people that
have actually used the product, rather than trusting the lame musings of
a troll.
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WHAT YOU HAVE IS A BUNTCH OF MORONS VOUCHING FOR DIFFERENT FORMULATIONS
ALL THINKING IT IS THE SAME THING BECAUSE SOME JERK PUT THE SAME LABEL
ON DIFFERENT STUFF AND THEN WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT IS IN THE BOX.
If people have been saying a particular brand of aftermarket inks has
clogged up their printers, one can take that as advice to avoid that
product.
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IT IS A LABEL. IT IS LIKE A CONSTANT CHANGING MERRYGOROUND DEPENDING ON
THE CHEAPEST PRICE.
On the other hand, if people have reported good experiences with
an aftermarket in company, one can take that into advisement as choice.
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NOT TURE. YOU NEVER KNOW IF THEY ARE REPORTING ON THE SAME STUFF THAT
CAN CHANGE AT ANY TIME
Now, if someone blindy keeps saying to buy OEM, claiminf aftermarket
clogs, and give to evidience to that statement, they person should not
really be trusted.
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CANON THINKS THAT STATMENT IS ABSURD. AND SO DOES EPSON AND HP.
 
Gary Tait wrote:

WRONGO BONGO. IF THE GENERIC INK RUINS THEIR PRINTER THEY DO NOT HAVE
TO FIX IT.
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Probably, but still, they cannot refuse warranty service if aftermarket
consumables are used, and they do have to honor the warrantee of the
failure occurred for reasons outside of the users choice in inks.

THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THERE IS NOT ONE AFTERMARKET FORMULATOR
MFG THAT SELLS PREFILLED CARTS UNDER THEIR OWN NAME AND BOX AND SELL
THEM IN ALL VENUES. NOT ONE.
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There doesn't have to be. Canon likely doesn't even manufacture their own
ink. As long as there are good ink manufacturers, and good resellers of
those inks, that is good enough for most medium to heavy, or budget
conscious users. An No, properly chosen and used, aftermarket inks don't
clog.
THERE IS NO COMMUNITY JUST A BUNCH OF HACKERS
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No, I mean community. Many aren't hackers. Most just want to save money.
 
Gary said:
Now, if someone blindy keeps saying to buy OEM, claiminf aftermarket
clogs, and give to evidience to that statement, they person should not
really be trusted.
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Oh you mean someone like that idiot troll who takes a dump all over the
good intelligent users in this ng?
Is that what you're talking about?
Frank
 
Gary said:
No, I mean community. Many aren't hackers. Most just want to save money.
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Gary that moron has no idea what you're talking about. He's mentally
deranged and probably been on public assistance now for years.
Kill file his stupid ass and be done with him.
Frank
 
NOPE, THE MAJORITY OF THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO BUY EPSON PRINTERS
USE EPSON INK.
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You state that the "majority of intelligent people" use Epson ink. That
means there are also some equally intelligent people who have chosen not
to use Epson's ink. And then you call those same intelligent people "idiots".
You sound confused, dazed, and off your medication.
ONLY THE FEW IDIOTS WHO WANT TO BUCK THE SYSTEM WILL
CHANGE
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Change into what...moths?
BUT SOON THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING TO CHANGE TO BECAUSE THE MORONS
WHO SELL AND RELABEL INK ARE DO NOT CONDUCT BUSINESS FOR THE LONG
TERM.
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"are do not conduct business"

Obviously you're not from the majority of intelligent people you speak of.
Don't wait up for that call from mvps.org.
THEY ARE VERY SHORTSIDED.
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"They are very shortsided"????? You mean they're like horizontally challenged?
English is a hard language to master for people whose first language isn't English.
Right, Francis? Or would you prefer I top post this?
 
Gary said:
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:




Probably, but still, they cannot refuse warranty service if aftermarket
consumables are used, and they do have to honor the warrantee of the
failure occurred for reasons outside of the users choice in inks.





There doesn't have to be. Canon likely doesn't even manufacture their own
ink. As long as there are good ink manufacturers, and good resellers of
those inks, that is good enough for most medium to heavy, or budget
conscious users. An No, properly chosen and used, aftermarket inks don't
clog.
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CANON IS A DESIGNER, ENGINEER, AND FORMULATOR OF A PRINT SYSTEM. THEY
CAN OUT SOURCE ANY PART OF IT AND THEY REMAIN IN CONTROL OF THE
PROCESS. EVERYTHING IS TO THEIR SPECS.
No, I mean community. Many aren't hackers. Most just want to save money.
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CHEAPOS
 
Gary said:
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All you have to do is refill, "accept" the warrantee loss and manually
keep an eye on the ink level. In the event of warrantee service, take
them up on their game.




I am too, kinda. The "smartcart" is a good thing IMO, except with no
means to reset it. If I wanted to be good to the refill community, I'd
make them in-printer resettable.
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The change that Canon has opted for is weirdly one very good reason to
consider looking for a Continuous ink supply or at least for someone to
develop one.

Reason being, the primary concern with the loss of an ink level
indicator is that you won't know if your carts are running low and if
you're not careful you could end up burning out your printhead..

CIS kits on the other hand allow you to print to your hearts content and
would:
a) allow you a lot of ink to print with in the first place
....and...
b) avoid the burnout issue by allowing you to visually note when a
refill was required (by looking at the ink tanks located externally) and
thus keep them topped up.


There are however some issue with the canon CIS kits and I'll be honest
the biggest headache is the lack of a proper air tight seal around the
base of the carts so that's something that I'm looking long and hard at
right now.

For once though I have to say I'd definitely be looking at CIS for the
newer chipped models and taking a LOT of time to check out the 3rd party
bulk ink suppliers to ensure I was getting a good one. MIS has seem me
proud for my iP4000 and MP750 so far (as well as all my Epsons) so in
that respect things are up.


But to come back to the point I was making, it does look like CIS has
some key advantages now over refilling with this printer..

Oh and Angus, just killfile the troll.. he's just a poor lost soul with
nothing better to do except lash out at those with attributes he wishes
he had. ie: intelligence
 
THAT IS NO HORRIFIC. REFILLING SHOULD NOT BE ANY CONSIDERATION AT ALL.
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THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT BUT SOME POSTERS HERE MAY NOT AGREE. THEY THINK
IT IS HORSESHIT. BULL OR HORSE MAKES NO DIFFERENCE CAUSE DA BEEFER WILL
LIKE IT.
The change that Canon has opted for is weirdly one very good reason to
consider looking for a Continuous ink supply or at least for someone
to develop one.

Reason being, the primary concern with the loss of an ink level
indicator is that you won't know if your carts are running low and if
you're not careful you could end up burning out your printhead..

CIS kits on the other hand allow you to print to your hearts content
and would:
a) allow you a lot of ink to print with in the first place
...and...
b) avoid the burnout issue by allowing you to visually note when a
refill was required (by looking at the ink tanks located externally)
and thus keep them topped up.


There are however some issue with the canon CIS kits and I'll be
honest the biggest headache is the lack of a proper air tight seal
around the base of the carts so that's something that I'm looking long
and hard at right now.

For once though I have to say I'd definitely be looking at CIS for the
newer chipped models and taking a LOT of time to check out the 3rd
party bulk ink suppliers to ensure I was getting a good one. MIS has
seem me proud for my iP4000 and MP750 so far (as well as all my
Epsons) so in that respect things are up.


But to come back to the point I was making, it does look like CIS has
some key advantages now over refilling with this printer..

Oh and Angus,
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YOU MISPELLED ANUS
just killfile the troll.. he's just a poor lost soul with nothing
better to do except lash out at those with attributes he wishes he
had. ie: intelligence
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MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB
DA DOCTOR WAS SURPRISED


MARY HAD A STEAMBOAT
DA STEAMBOAT HAD A BELL
EVERY WHERE THE STEAMBOAT WENT
MAY WENT TO HELL
 
CANON IS A DESIGNER, ENGINEER, AND FORMULATOR OF A PRINT SYSTEM. THEY
CAN OUT SOURCE ANY PART OF IT AND THEY REMAIN IN CONTROL OF THE
PROCESS. EVERYTHING IS TO THEIR SPECS.
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So, these ink mnufacturers many which have been in buisness longer than
at least Canaon has been in the printer buisness, do formulate and
engineer thet ink close enough to the OEM specs there are thousansd of
users that are satisfied with the product.

CHEAPOS
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If you want to say it that way, sure.
 
Gary said:
So, these ink mnufacturers many which have been in buisness longer than
at least Canaon has been in the printer buisness, do formulate and
engineer thet ink close enough to the OEM specs there are thousansd of
users that are satisfied with the product.
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AND 10S OF MILLIONS WHO USE OEM INK.
If you want to say it that way, sure.
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WELL I AM GLAD YOU FINALLY AGREE WITH MY VIEWS.
 
Martin said:
But to come back to the point I was making, it does look like CIS has some
key advantages now over refilling with this printer..<
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Yep - CIS isn't something that I'd seriously considered before, it might
well be the only way forward though.

Do you know if the new Canon cartridge chip can be rest as per Epson ones?

Someone posted a link to spongeless refillable cartridges for Epson. That
might be another way forward - one thing's for sure, I'm not going to be
bullied by the manufacturers into paying exorbitant amounts of money for
their ink.

Oh and Angus, just killfile the troll.. he's just a poor lost soul with
nothing better to do except lash out at those with attributes he wishes he
had. ie: intelligence<
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Oh, he was killfiled after his second post - what an awful 'troller'! -
really piss-poor. There are some excellent Usenet trolls about - funny and
clever, the sort of people who could start a fight to the death amongst a
group of Nuns on a pilgrimage to Lourdes, but this specimen is just an
embarrassment. I blame TV, myself.
 
Angus said:
Yep - CIS isn't something that I'd seriously considered before, it might
well be the only way forward though.

Do you know if the new Canon cartridge chip can be rest as per Epson ones?

Someone posted a link to spongeless refillable cartridges for Epson. That
might be another way forward - one thing's for sure, I'm not going to be
bullied by the manufacturers into paying exorbitant amounts of money for
their ink.





Oh, he was killfiled after his second post - what an awful 'troller'! -
really piss-poor. There are some excellent Usenet trolls about - funny and
clever, the sort of people who could start a fight to the death amongst a
group of Nuns on a pilgrimage to Lourdes, but this specimen is just an
embarrassment. I blame TV, myself.
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WHO CARES ABOUT NONES. KEEP THE REPLIES BABY
 
AND 10S OF MILLIONS WHO USE OEM INK.
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So. The fact is a few thousands have found that aftermarket ink from
trusted resellers is an excellent value with good results, no problems and
suits their needs nicely. Even more people find buying prefilled or
refilled third party cards a great deal, as they just don't want to buy the
OEM carts. Yes, people do buy junk ink an get clogs, but that is the
minority of aftermarket ink users that buy junk product or mis-use good
product, and would likely get clogs with OEM inks.
 
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