REQ: User & Service manuals for HP Laserjet 4

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Could someone please email me a copy of the above manual(s). I have
hunted high and low for them - and been from pillar to post on the
(awful) HP site. I need something with pictorial instructions that my
girfriend's Dad will be able to follow without getting really annoyed
at me for buying him this printer!

If the email exceeds 3-4megs then I can supply an address with a
higher capacity.
TIA
 
Jambers,
There is way too much to email. You can enter "Laserjet 4 manual"
in the search criteria on the awful HP website and get links like
these that are packed with more manuals than you can shake a toner
cartridge at:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...sId=25487&prodTypeId=18972&supportTaskId=3721

There are also countless discussion groups available in the results of
the above search that discuss getting printed and electronic versions
of many of the different manuals/guides available for the LJ4.

Jambers said:
Could someone please email me a copy of the above manual(s). I have
hunted high and low for them - and been from pillar to post on the
(awful) HP site. I need something with pictorial instructions that my
girfriend's Dad will be able to follow without getting really annoyed
at me for buying him this printer!

If the email exceeds 3-4megs then I can supply an address with a
higher capacity.
TIA
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Pat
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There is way too much to email. You can enter "Laserjet 4 manual"
in the search criteria on the awful HP website and get links like
these that are packed with more manuals than you can shake a toner
cartridge at:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...sId=25487&prodTypeId=18972&supportTaskId=3721

There are also countless discussion groups available in the results of
the above search that discuss getting printed and electronic versions
of many of the different manuals/guides available for the LJ4.
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Thanks Pat, but none of these are of any use to me. What I really
need is a general breakdown, with pictures, of cleaning and
maintenance. If I had the printer here, I could do it no problems,
but it is at my girlfriends Dad's house, and his PC skills are
limited, so trying to explain how to do this over the phone, when I
haven't seen it for myself, is very difficult.

I don't need a discussion forum, I need pictures that I can fax to
him, so as he can see what I am trying to describe!

I bought this printer for him, and it is a few years old, so has a lot
of residual toner all over. I need to instruct him to locate and
clean the printer lens, fuser, and anything else, because the
printouts are very very blurry.
 
Jambers said:
Could someone please email me a copy of the above manual(s).
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There's a link to the service manual PDF at the bottom of this page:
<http://www.shawnbehrens.de/hpmem.htm>. It's pretty comprehensive,
however,it does not include the fold-out pages, which have some
maintenance procedures that I particularly wanted. This is probably
the same one you'd get if you biught a manuals CDROM from eBay.

There's the DOS "HP LaserJet 4/4M Explorer" which gives some basic
info, at
<ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/printers/software/lj138en.exe>. (Hint: you have
to run this file to extract the install files, and then move them to
the root directory of a disk (it expects to install from a floppy, but
works from a hard drive, or presumably CD).

I've been looking for the "User Manual". There was a post here:
Date: 2002-11-24
http://h200002.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/bpl11932/bpl11932.pdf
This is a quick reference guide 25 pages
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But this file isn't to be found now on hp.com or anywhere else
apparently...

The Printer Works has their excellent exploded parts diagrams and
other info, starting from
<http://www.printerworks.com/Printers/LaserJet4_4Plus.html>

If anyone has other sources please follow on here.
 
Alan, that's a pretty big help there. Thanks a lot. Like you say,
the missing diagrams would be helpful.

Could you, or someone, take a picture of the parts that need routine
cleaning, and post/email them. The printer is giving a grey
background and smudged text/graphics. I am hoping that a new toner
will cure this, but I reckon my girlfriend's dad might be p*ssed if
this isn't the fix! Does the toner cart incorporate all the printing
gubbins? If not, then what parts inside will need a wipe with a 'lint
free cloth'?!
Cheers,
 
Jambers said:
Alan, that's a pretty big help there. Thanks a lot. Like you say,
the missing diagrams would be helpful.

Could you, or someone, take a picture of the parts that need routine
cleaning, and post/email them. The printer is giving a grey
background and smudged text/graphics. I am hoping that a new toner
will cure this, but I reckon my girlfriend's dad might be p*ssed if
this isn't the fix! Does the toner cart incorporate all the printing
gubbins? If not, then what parts inside will need a wipe with a 'lint
free cloth'?!
Cheers,
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I just got my HP4 yesterday (I've had several other models over the
years) so I'm just guessing a bit. Mine works perfectly so far, but I
want to keep it that way so I've been hunting down as much info as
possible.

However, on my old HPIII, when I first got it, it had been out of use
for over a year and had what sounds like similar print problems --
grey and streaky. A new toner cart fixed that -- toner is affected by
moisture, and here it's extremely humid and the effect is obvious. I
think toner spills inside would more likely make random black marks
than the effects you describe.

You could take the old cart and try it in another laser to check that
-- many toner refill places also repair printers and should have a
machine for testing if you can't find anywhere else.
 
However, on my old HPIII, when I first got it, it had been out of use
for over a year and had what sounds like similar print problems --
grey and streaky. A new toner cart fixed that -- toner is affected by
moisture, and here it's extremely humid and the effect is obvious. I
think toner spills inside would more likely make random black marks
than the effects you describe.

You could take the old cart and try it in another laser to check that
-- many toner refill places also repair printers and should have a
machine for testing if you can't find anywhere else.
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I reckon you're right, a new toner might just sort it all out. Tell
me, is the 'print head' incorporated into the toner cart?
 
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->On 17 Jan 2004 15:02:11 -0800, (e-mail address removed) (LBM Systems) wrote:
->
->> There is way too much to email. You can enter "Laserjet 4
manual"
->>in the search criteria on the awful HP website and get links like
->>these that are packed with more manuals than you can shake a toner
->>cartridge at:
->>
->>http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...sId=25487&prodTypeId=18972&supportTaskId=3721
->>
->>There are also countless discussion groups available in the results
of
->>the above search that discuss getting printed and electronic
versions
->>of many of the different manuals/guides available for the LJ4.
->
->Thanks Pat, but none of these are of any use to me. What I really
->need is a general breakdown, with pictures, of cleaning and
->maintenance. If I had the printer here, I could do it no problems,
->but it is at my girlfriends Dad's house, and his PC skills are
->limited, so trying to explain how to do this over the phone, when I
->haven't seen it for myself, is very difficult.
->
->I don't need a discussion forum, I need pictures that I can fax to
->him, so as he can see what I am trying to describe!
->
->I bought this printer for him, and it is a few years old, so has a
lot
->of residual toner all over. I need to instruct him to locate and
->clean the printer lens, fuser, and anything else, because the
->printouts are very very blurry.
 
Jambers said:
I reckon you're right, a new toner might just sort it all out. Tell
me, is the 'print head' incorporated into the toner cart?
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Laser printers don't have a "Print Head" in the sense of ink (or toner)
being squirted out of holes onto paper.

They are somewhat like an electrostatic copier ( eg: Xerox and similar )
as opposed to being like an inkjet... which has a printhead which
squirts ink or a dot matrix printer which also has a printhead which
bangs on a printing ribbon with little hammer like things to make black
marks on the paper.

Jim

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Jambers said:
Alan, that's a pretty big help there. Thanks a lot. Like you say,
the missing diagrams would be helpful.

Could you, or someone, take a picture of the parts that need routine
cleaning, and post/email them.
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Preferably to somewhere we can all download them please.
 
Jambers said:
I reckon you're right, a new toner might just sort it all out. Tell
me, is the 'print head' incorporated into the toner cart?
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The "HP LaserJet 4/4M Explorer" mentioned earlier gives a basic intro
to how it works. The HP4 toner cart has the toner and also the drum --
this is charged up and then the page to be printed is written on this
with the laser (the charger and laser not parts of the cart). The
toner is attracted to the the part of the drum where the laser has
written and then transferred to the paper and heat rollers melt the
toner onto the page. (So when the toner is damp you can imagine this
doesn't work so well.) Mechanically, it's quite similar to offset
printing, printing the whole page at once rather than point by point
like a typewriter or inkjet.
 
Preferably to somewhere we can all download them please.
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If someone emails them to me, then I will post them to my webspace for
an indefinite time. :) Then I will post the link for the rest of you
good people struggling with HP's finest.
 
Laser printers don't have a "Print Head" in the sense of ink (or toner)
being squirted out of holes onto paper.

They are somewhat like an electrostatic copier ( eg: Xerox and similar )
as opposed to being like an inkjet... which has a printhead which
squirts ink or a dot matrix printer which also has a printhead which
bangs on a printing ribbon with little hammer like things to make black
marks on the paper.
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Thanks Jim, but I am aware of the basic principles for
laser/inkjet/dot matrix printing, hence the quotes around the 'print
head'. I didn't know what to call the lens/led thing that often needs
wiped free from toner, and not entirely sure that this printer
actually has one or not. This is where a couple of well-angled photos
would come into play. So as I know what to tell the old man to clean
and what he needn't bother.

Now I am 100% convinced that there must be someone lurking in the
shadows who owns both a LJ4 and a decent digi cam, that has 5 minutes
spare to help me and probably 100's of millions of others that require
the same information.

Perhaps if we all club together, we could raise enough mulla to buy
one of the blasted e-manuals from a scabby ebay'er! Please send your
donations to my Paypal account. :o)
 
If someone emails them to me, then I will post them to my webspace for
an indefinite time. :) Then I will post the link for the rest of you
good people struggling with HP's finest.
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You've been told several times - they are too big to email!

I did email you about all this, offering info, but the mail bounced and
I'm not faffing around with spamtraps.

Since I don't want what I offered posted publicly (as you intend) I
won't offer again.
 
You've been told several times - they are too big to email!
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What...pictures of the inside of a laserjet 4! Methinks these can
easily be compressed to under 100k per pic and still retain much of
their quality. If it is the pullouts you refer to, then I'm guessing
these could be scanned and emailed using a similar magic trick as
previously mentioned for the pics!
I did email you about all this, offering info, but the mail bounced and
I'm not faffing around with spamtraps.
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Thanks for the effort, but obviously I never saw your email. As for
you not wanting to faff with spamtraps, they are an important and
integral part of posting in these groups, and I, like many many others
am unwilling to allow my address to be harvested. You should know
about this as your email address passively sponsors an anti spam site!
I'm sure that it isn't difficul to de-mung my reply to address.
Since I don't want what I offered posted publicly (as you intend) I
won't offer again.
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And where, pray tell, is your original offer? In the bounced email I
presume... Not quite sure why you are getting so agitated. Also, not
sure why any pics you send me are unfit for the PD, that being the
case, maybe I don't want to see them! ;)

All I need is a pic or a decent diagram showing the interior workings
of a HP LJ 4. I don't need a ream of A4 awash with baffling
schematics.

If I don't acheive this by this weekend, I might as well not bother,
cos my girlfriend's old man will have thrown the bloody thing out of
the window. LOL.
 
you not wanting to faff with spamtraps, they are an important and
integral part of posting in these groups, and I, like many many others
am unwilling to allow my address to be harvested. You should know
about this as your email address passively sponsors an anti spam site!
I'm sure that it isn't difficul to de-mung my reply to address.
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But Reply-to: addresses don't get harvested.
And where, pray tell, is your original offer? In the bounced email I
presume... Not quite sure why you are getting so agitated. Also, not
sure why any pics you send me are unfit for the PD, that being the
case, maybe I don't want to see them! ;)
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I was offering a good deal more...never mind. I have a lot of expertise
in fixing this model.
 
On 20 Jan 2004 18:22:11 GMT said:
But Reply-to: addresses don't get harvested.
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not planning on risking it - nothing worse than a mailbox full of
crap.
I was offering a good deal more...never mind. I have a lot of expertise
in fixing this model.
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well, in any case, I am sorry you ran out of patience without me even
knowing of your presence, I'm afraid there is little I can do about
that. If you are willing to help, I am willing to listen.
 
Jambers said:
Thanks Jim, but I am aware of the basic principles for
laser/inkjet/dot matrix printing, hence the quotes around the 'print
head'. I didn't know what to call the lens/led thing that often needs
wiped free from toner, and not entirely sure that this printer
actually has one or not. This is where a couple of well-angled photos
would come into play. So as I know what to tell the old man to clean
and what he needn't bother.
Click to expand...

I hope you underestand the frustration your lack of knowledge and the
resulting impossible to understand "keywords" (which aren't really
keywords, but that is OK because there are parenthesis around them)
combine to create.
Now I am 100% convinced that there must be someone lurking in the
shadows who owns both a LJ4 and a decent digi cam, that has 5 minutes
spare to help me and probably 100's of millions of others that require
the same information.

Perhaps if we all club together, we could raise enough mulla to buy
one of the blasted e-manuals from a scabby ebay'er! Please send your
donations to my Paypal account. :o)
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With patience, you can get these CD's for very little money.

Why don't you go to look at the diagrams for printers and printer parts
at "The Printer Works" firm. The address is something like
www.printerworks.com or www.theprinterworks.com.
 
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