remove bad sector from ntfs partition

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Eric Gisin said:
Ignore Ron, most of us do.

The PowerMax LLF also is a diagnostic. It will tell you if the drive should be replaced.

Best to run SMART utility before and save the results. The LLF resets
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SMART counters.

The gisin newbie lashes out in ignorance again.

PowerMAX does not do a LLF. It IS however valuable to run PowerMAX on the
drive.
 
Hod said:
Hi Ron,

If this is the case why does Maxtor support tell me to get reed of the bad
sectors by doing a low level format and not tell me to return it?
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Because you talked to an idiot--call back and ask for "second tier". Or
just set it aside with the power on and check it now and then until it
finishing dying.

IDE drives have spare sectors, so that a reformat makes bad sectors _appear_
to go away. They haven't gone away, they're still there, they're just no
longer visible. They _should_ go away when you write to the affected
sector. This is all handled transparently by the drive firmware.
Occasionally you may see a single bad sector, bu if you are seeing
_multiple_ bad sectors simultaneously then there's something unpleasant
going on with the drive.
 
Plato said:
You cant get rid of a bad sectors. You can only use utility to mark them
bad so no data tries to write to it.
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While it is true that the sector remains on the disk, IDE drives have
sparing-when a bad sector is detected a spare is mapped in so that the OS
does not see a bad sector any longer.
 
Hod said:
If this is the case why does Maxtor support tell me to get reed of the bad
sectors by doing a low level format and not tell me to return it?
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Maxtor drives are unreliable shite. Replace it with a better make.
 
Hi,
I agree the disk is unstable, I aready purchased a WD drive which in my
experience are much more reliable.
But I want to do a partition copy using partitionmagic.
How do I remove the bad sectors so they will not be copied to the new drive.
Do you know of specific insturctionas for the DFSEE utility to do this?

Thanks
Hod
 
Rod Speed said:
Corse they are AFTER THE FILE WITH THE
BAD SECTOR IN IT IS DELETED, CRETIN.
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Thanks, oh mighty clueless one, for that completely superfluous
proof of that you haven't got a single clue of what he's asking:
"Is there a way to remove the bad sectors from the
ntfs list and recover the space without a format?"
Pathetic, really.
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Indeed you are.
Still can't workout how to setup OE either.
 
J. Clarke said:
Because you talked to an idiot--
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Who are you calling an idiot, idiot!
call back and ask for "second tier".
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As if that will make a difference. He's an employee of the
manufacturer who put the spare tracks there for a reason,
to be used, so that drives can have a useful life.
And now you expect him to apostatize his employer. Clueless.
Or just set it aside with
the power on and check it now and then until it finishing dying.
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Or will never die.
IDE drives have spare sectors, so that a reformat makes bad sectors _appear_
to go away.
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What a difference with when it comes from the factory with literally
hundreds of those hidden already.
They haven't gone away, they're still there, they're just no
longer visible.
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Keeping company with the ones that have been there from the start.
They _should_ go away when you write to the affected sector. T
This is all handled transparently by the drive firmware.
Occasionally you may see a single bad sector, bu if you are seeing
_multiple_ bad sectors simultaneously then there's something unpleasant
going on with the drive.
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Or the system. If you are *seeing* bad sectors then they went from
good to bad in a instant (as opposed to gradually). That can be indicative
of a crash OR can be indicative of bad power supply or overheating.

And the fact that you find multiple doesn't necessarily
mean that they all came into being all at the same time.
It may just be that you haven't checked in a while and when
you do you find some that accumulated gradually over time.
 
Hod said:
Hi,
I agree the disk is unstable,
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Or your system is.
Check your powersupply and/or supply_of_power to the drive.
Check the drive temperature. Check S.M.A.R.T.
Don't speculate.
 
J. Clarke said:
While it is true that the sector remains on the disk, IDE drives have
sparing-when a bad sector is detected a spare is mapped in so that the OS
does not see a bad sector any longer.
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Which SCSI got from the start. Nobody ever made a point of it.
When it was introduced in IDE people suddenly started to cry fowl.

IDE is indeed the poor man's drive. The poor man doesn't understand how
technology works. What the poor man doesn't understand he rejects.
Odd how the poor man didn't cry fowl when MS hid the bad sectors
in the FAT. Now that drives do it themselves without bothering the user
it suddenly isn't accepted.
 
Ron Reaugh said:
Nonsense.
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Just like your repeated claims that there was nothing wrong with the
Deskstar 75GXPs?

BTW: I had another two 75GXPs fail this week. On one of these units,
at 13:00 the system log showed a read error on the drive. At 15:00 it
was completely inaccessible and has remained so.
 
Which SCSI got from the start. Nobody ever made a point of it.
When it was introduced in IDE people suddenly started to cry fowl.
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IDE is indeed the poor man's drive. The poor man doesn't understand how
technology works. What the poor man doesn't understand he rejects.
Odd how the poor man didn't cry fowl when MS hid the bad sectors
in the FAT. Now that drives do it themselves without bothering the user
it suddenly isn't accepted.
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Wait until the poor man discovers that a non-trivial part of his CPU
is dead circuits. The same is true of memory components and other
complex microelectronics.

Or maybe he will completely freak out to find his body has a
non-trivial number of dead cells.


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Only recoverable bad sectors are replaced on read (remapped and copied). If
the sector is FUBAR, it won't be replaced/remapped until it's written to.
 
Some pathetically senile silly old redneck fart desperately cowering behind
Bob <[email protected]> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
 
Some pathetically senile silly old redneck fart desperately cowering behind
Bob <[email protected]> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
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<yawn>

Everyone knows you are a troll. Your sock puppets do not fool anyone.

Anyone who listens to your bullshit deserves the consequences.


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between a free man and a slave."
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Some pathetically senile silly old redneck fart desperately cowering behind
Bob <[email protected]> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
 
Some pathetically senile silly old redneck fart desperately cowering behind
Bob <[email protected]> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
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Yet another datum point confirming my claim that Troll Rodboy is a
robot. He says the same exact thing over and over and over...


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Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The possession of arms is the distinction
between a free man and a slave."
-- Andrew Fletcher, Discourse on Government (1695)
 
Some pathetically senile silly old redneck fart desperately cowering behind
Bob <[email protected]> desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
 
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