Regretting Vista

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I decided to install Nero 6.6.1.4 in Vista to see if it would install.

I downloaded the Nero 6.6.1.4 update and ran the installation. Nero
extracted the files and started the installation. When the installation of
Nero started from the temporary directory, Vista displayed the Program
Compatibility Assistant window [screen shot removed].

I clicked on the 'Check for solutions online' button in the Program
Compatibility Assistant window and it showed "Windows is checking for a
solution to the problem...." I clicked 'View more solutions' and when the
Problem Reports and Solutions window opened, it showed "Windows Vista does
not support Nero - Burning Rom".
 
Joe Medford said:
I have been running Vista since November, have not had any problems, and
have never looked back. Don't know why so many people are having issues.
Alot of my customers have ordered Vista and have had 0 issues

"Anyone that purchases a NEW OS before it's been on the street for 6
months,
or the first SP, is going to expect growing pains, at least anyone that
has
used a computer before."
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Good for you Joe, it would appear that you have a small client base. I
support 60 clients with more than 2500 workstations and some 80 servers
across the USA. Many of the applications are not certified for Vista and
many of the application vendors say to not run them on vista at this time -
they will not provide support for apps running on vista.

I clean installed Vista on two Toshiba laptops, one Core 2 Duo Intel board
and had a number of issues with it, but I was able to get around all of the
issues presented, except for the applications provided by vendors not ready
for vista.

Like many that moved from W311 to 95 and then from 95 to 98/98se, then to
2000 and then to XP, there are always some that have few / no problems
because they way they use their systems presents fewer issues. There are
also those that use their machines to the extreme (and I'm not talking about
over-clocking) and use a lot more apps than just a few MS apps. Most people
are better served to wait for 6 months, as the newer OS's don't offer
anything most people can take advantage of for at least that long.

I'm not bashing Vista, and I'm sure that we'll end up moving some 2000 of
them to vista this year, but it's not going to be a mad rush to install the
latest OS just because it's been released. Vista doesn't offer anything
needed at this time.
 
When did the problems start?
Were there any problems before any 3rd party software was installed?

If not, look to the 3rd party.
You may simply need to reinstall or install an update.
Many 3rd parties have not made the necessary changes to be compatible for
Vista.
Nero is an example, you need the latest updates for Nero 7 to work and Nero
6 has limited functionality for most.

If yes, ask Dell since they assembled the computer and warrant the entire
system, hardware and software will work together.
If your system does not work properly as shipped, it is a Dell issue since
Dell assembled the system.
This is why your question is not necessarily a Vista question.
 
"What does Dell have to do with AdMuncher, Firefox, Nero...?"
That depends.
If Dell furnished them with the computer, Dell will make sure they work with
the computer.
None of those are part of Vista so Microsoft has nothing to do with them.

What have the manufacturers of those programs suggested after you gave them
details of your problem?

If those programs did not come with the Dell, check their websites for the
latest updates and Vista compatibility.
Try reinstalling and see if the situation improves.

Since the computer is new, use the Restore CD/DVD and see if it improves.
 
Joe said:
It is so sad that these manufactors are not working harder to improve
their products.
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But doesn't Microsoft work with these manufacturers to ensure overall
compatibility?

Oh...oh...wait...I forget - Microsoft develops an OS that is totally
flawless. My bad...oh I'm so sorry for assuming they lifted fingers to
help out in the industry unless market share is threatened...
 
Microsoft has made the necessary information available to the manufacturers.
What the manufacturers choose to do or not to do is totally up to them.
Obviously Microsoft is in no position to dictate which and when the hardware
will be supported.
But then you already know that.
 
Mr. I.M. Puss said:
But doesn't Microsoft work with these manufacturers to ensure overall
compatibility?
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Actually, MS does work with vendors that SUBMIT their solution to MS to be
certified, but, it's a long process, is not free, and many don't do it
unless they can get a healthy ROI.

Some vendors provide a single system for certification and then make mods
after, which would invalidate the certification, but the vendor keeps
putting the "Certified for X version of Windows" on the changed setup -
gives the purchaser the false belief that it's been MS certified.
 
They had Norton, the Firefox team, and several others (including apple), to
come to MSFT's campus to get the programs to work with Vista. Vista was
finished in November, and not much of the backend was changed in a year.
They had more then enough time to get the ASS moving. Microsoft tries to
help the consumer and everyone complains to MSFT when others don't do their
work.
 
Mark (MCP) said:
Are you installing Nero 6.6.1.4 in Vista?
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6.6.0.17F - an OEM version that came with the drive.

And it's Vista RC1, if that makes any difference.
 
There are differences between XP and Vista. All that tells you is that Dell
and the program developers (Nero, FF, AdMuncher...) did not take the time to
ensure that their programs and drivers are Vista ready and compatible.
They've had more than enough time to prepare. Given properly designed
programs and drivers, you wouldn't have problems. Look for improving
conditions in the comming weeks and months as these developers begin make
their applications compatible. It was the same process for Windows XP when
it first appeared on the market.

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* Robert Firth *
* Windows Vista x86 RTM *
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Peter Hayes said:
6.6.0.17F - an OEM version that came with the drive.

And it's Vista RC1, if that makes any difference.

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter
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After Nero 6.6.1.4 wouldn't install for me in Vista Business 32-bit version,
I went to Nero's web site and downloaded Nero 7.7.5.1. When Nero 7.7.5.1
installed in Vista, it also installed DirectX 9.0c. I can't remember which
DirectX version installs with Vista.

I downloaded Nero 7.7.5.1 Update, which does a full install, from here:

Download Nero 7.7.5.1 Update
http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/nero7-demo.php

As with any new operating system, various programs will require upgraded
software.
 
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