Recover Data from Damaged Harddrive - how? ideas?

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Some stupid frog ****wit desperately cowering behind
shit thats all it can ever manage when its got done like
a ****ing dinner, yet again.
 
There are at least two meanings...
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Wrong, as always.
...neither of which is likely to cause damage to the electronics
of a disk drive powered through a regulated PSU.
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Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
that you've never ever had a ****ing clue.
 
Wrong, as always.



Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
that you've never ever had a ****ing clue.
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Argumentum ad hominem. Exposing your lack of a valid argument for
your bizarre opinion yet again.
 
McSpreader a couché sur son écran :


Brownout Definition: A reduction in the mains voltage without a
complete loss of power. A brownout is a steady lower voltage
state. An example of a brownout happens during peak electrical
demands in the summer, when utilities can't always meet the
requirements and must lower the voltage to limit maximum power.

When this happens, computer systems can experience data
corruption, data loss and premature hardware failure.

Source:
http://www.asi.com.au/technology/powermgt/UPSPowerIssues.htm
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Michel,

Thanks. I found several others, see below. Take your pick.

About the only thing the definitions agree on is that a brownout is
a reduction in supply voltage. So why would that cause damage to
the electronics of an IDE disk drive powered through a regulated
PSU?

McSP.


Brownout: A sudden, unexpected reduction in electrical power,
usually lasting just a few seconds, but long enough to cause
computer equipment to fail from insufficient power levels.
Source:
<http://www.psps.com/pages_frames/tech_talk/telecommunications_dict
ionary.htm>

Brownout: A short-term decrease in voltage levels to below 80% of
their nominal value.
Source:
http://www.cyberresearch.com/content/static/glossary.aspx#B

Brownout: USA term for a dip: a reduction of the supply voltage
well below its normal tolerances, followed by a recovery to the
original level. The voltage during the dip does not reduce to zero.
Brownouts can last for seconds, minutes, or even hours.
Source: http://www.iee.org/Policy/Areas/Electro/core.pdf
 
Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
McSpreader <[email protected]> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
 
Thanks. I found several others, see below. Take your pick.
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About the only thing the definitions agree on is
that a brownout is a reduction in supply voltage.
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Thats what a brownout is, stupid.
So why would that cause damage to the electronics of
an IDE disk drive powered through a regulated PSU?
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Basically a brownout can be accompanied by spikes on the
mains and those can damage the power supply, and that can
see the output rails way out of spec and damage the drive.

You can also see badly designed power supplys produce
some pretty bizarre output rail excursions even with just a
big sag in the mains, and that can damage the drive too.

And whatever the detail, we do know that the OP did
see a brownout and that the drive did die at that time.
The detail of how the drive got fried is quite academic.
Brownout: A sudden, unexpected reduction in electrical power,
usually lasting just a few seconds, but long enough to cause
computer equipment to fail from insufficient power levels.
Source:
<http://www.psps.com/pages_frames/tech_talk/telecommunications_dictionary.htm>
Click to expand...
Brownout: A short-term decrease in voltage
levels to below 80% of their nominal value.
Source:
http://www.cyberresearch.com/content/static/glossary.aspx#B
Click to expand...
Brownout: USA term for a dip: a reduction of the supply voltage
well below its normal tolerances, followed by a recovery to the
original level. The voltage during the dip does not reduce to zero.
Brownouts can last for seconds, minutes, or even hours.
Source: http://www.iee.org/Policy/Areas/Electro/core.pdf
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Those are all saying the same thing in different words.

And they fail to mention that brownouts are often accompanied
by over voltage surges and spikes, particularly when some fool
manages to bring a power pole down and the power system
sees reclosers attempting to bring the power up again and failing.
 
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Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big,
hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means
he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self
professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of
all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and
to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small
mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial,
more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has
been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil
to
explain himself and the student responds with "**** off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a
dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which
merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response
was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic
lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy
Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!
 
Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod
Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big,
hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering
away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means
he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups
including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self
professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of
all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a
view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and
to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small
mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any
other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he
responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial,
more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has
been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a
class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil
to
explain himself and the student responds with "**** off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a
dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which
merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response
was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an
opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic
lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy
Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!
 
Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
McSpreader <[email protected]> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
 
Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
McSpreader <[email protected]> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
 
Eric Gisin said:
A brown-out should not damage any computer component.
The ATX spec requires the PSU shutdown until the line is stable.
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Of course before the brownout the line WAS stable. The brown out itself
might not have caused the problem with the PC but the same event that caused
the brownout could well have caused the problem with the PC. Who knows what
actually caused the brown out. Perhaps a lightening strike? Perhaps some
local heavy electrical plant went off line and spiked the supply?
A bad PSU can give you out of spec voltages and spikes.
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or just let through spikes on the mains that a good one wouldn't.
 
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