V
Vic Dura
It is by no means the will of the majority. Your other points
reasonable IMO.
It is by no means the will of the majority. Your other points
reasonable IMO.
J
Joe Silver
John said:
Yes. Before finding the solution I currently use, I tried several
programs that were suggested in this very newsgroup. Unfortunately, none
worked satisfactorily for me. Could be my computer or configuration, I
suppose. (I have a 400 MHz PII, running Windows 2000.)
I'm always open to suggestions, so I downloaded and tried all four of
the programs you mentioned. DS Player and ViPlay played only the audio
stream from DVDs - poorly, at that. Xenorate and Dojo Media Player each
produced a series of error messages, and failed completely to play DVDs.
I tried this too, and it seemed to make a bit of a difference. Now, when
I try to play DVDs from my DVD drive using Media Player Classic, the
program crashes every time, but when I play disc images from my hard
drive, there is at least an improvement in the audio playback, compared
to what it was before I upgraded my DirectX. The sound is smooth, with
no interruptions, although the picture is jerky.
Maybe I'd need to spend a few hundred or a few thousand dollars to
upgrade my computer and get the most out of the freeware DVD players
that have been suggested here by you and others. Instead, I spent ten
bucks on an MPEG decoder card and got top-notch results. (And, by the
way, the DVD playback software it uses is available as a FREE download
on the Web.) However, out of respect for you and others who want to keep
commercial products out of this newsgroup, that's the last I'll say
about it!
J
John Corliss
Phred said:
No, it is not. Absolutely not.
Such a response generally comprises a smaller message body. Frankly
though, my personal opinion is that if you can't offer a freeware
solution, that doesn't mean that somebody else won't eventually so
it's better not to reply at all.
I agree and that's generally how I view the group. However, this only
backs up my assertion that it's in the group's interest not to
contribute the clutter by adding off topic posts.
Well, I made a few suggestions in this thread. Discard BSPlayer though
since it doesn't play DVDs. I've even removed it from my system.
From what I've read, to play DVDs a person must have the correct
codecs installed anyway. This may be the reason some players don't
work for some people.
--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Because Andy Mabbett is stalking me in this group, I have him killfiled.
J
John Corliss
Vic said:
Bullshit Vic. It is and you know it. Recommending commercial software
in this group is as ****ing off topic as a person can get.
--
John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Because Andy Mabbett is stalking me in this group, I have him killfiled.
J
John Corliss
Joe said:Yes. Before finding the solution I currently use, I tried several
programs that were suggested in this very newsgroup. Unfortunately, none
worked satisfactorily for me. Could be my computer or configuration, I
suppose. (I have a 400 MHz PII, running Windows 2000.)
I'm always open to suggestions, so I downloaded and tried all four of
the programs you mentioned. DS Player and ViPlay played only the audio
stream from DVDs - poorly, at that. Xenorate and Dojo Media Player each
produced a series of error messages, and failed completely to play DVDs.
I tried this too, and it seemed to make a bit of a difference. Now, when
I try to play DVDs from my DVD drive using Media Player Classic, the
program crashes every time, but when I play disc images from my hard
drive, there is at least an improvement in the audio playback, compared
to what it was before I upgraded my DirectX. The sound is smooth, with
no interruptions, although the picture is jerky.
Maybe I'd need to spend a few hundred or a few thousand dollars to
upgrade my computer and get the most out of the freeware DVD players
that have been suggested here by you and others. Instead, I spent ten
bucks on an MPEG decoder card and got top-notch results. (And, by the
way, the DVD playback software it uses is available as a FREE download
on the Web.) However, out of respect for you and others who want to keep
commercial products out of this newsgroup, that's the last I'll say
about it!
If the software is freeware and will work on systems without the card,
why not mention it?
Also, if *you're* not having any problems playing DVDs on *your*
system, then you have no need to find a freeware program to play DVDs.
The OP was Colonel Blip and I'm going to focus on finding a solution
for that person.
--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Because Andy Mabbett is stalking me in this group, I have him killfiled.
J
John Corliss
Colonel said:
AKA "subtitles".
Before you give up on your current player, I suggest that you give
this group a try:
You might want to tell them what model of player you installed and
something about your computer. A firmware upgrade may solve the problem.
--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Because Andy Mabbett is stalking me in this group, I have him killfiled.
J
John Corliss
Vic said:
Bullcrap Vic. It is and you know it. Recommending commercial software
in this group is as off topic as a person can get. Doing so opens the
door for people to come in here and promote commercial software using
this as an excuse. I'm sure that even YOU wouldn't want that.
--
John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Because Andy Mabbett is stalking me in this group, I have him killfiled.
J
John Fitzsimons
Unless someone knows every freeware program in the world they cannot
say that. Because "you" don't know a freeware solution it doesn't mean
it doesn't exist.
< snip >
If people want non freeware solutions then there are non freeware
newsgroups they can visit/post in.
Regards, John.
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V
Vic Dura
No sir. Not under the conditions the OP described.
P
Phred
Hmm... I assume that means people shouldn't post "the best" solution
either? ;-)
But my point was that it is surely on-topic in a freeware group to
discuss the limitations and failings of freeware, isn't it?
I doubt that anyone necessarily *wants* something they have to pay for
if there is a viable alternative. They want solutions. Given more
than one solution then I expect other considerations such as "value
for money", "support", and "accountability" would come into play.
Cheers, Phred.
V
Vic Dura
IMO, yes it is.
C
Colonel Blip
Hello, Colonel!
You wrote to All on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:05:38 -0500:
CB> I just installed a DVD and tried running a legal version of Castaway on
CB> it but the DVD player on my W2K machine doesn't handle it (get message
CB> "While setting up DVD-Video playback, it was found that * Subpicture
CB> will not be available during playback".
CB> Recommendations for a good replacement?
CB> With best regards, Colonel Blip. E-mail: (e-mail address removed)
I've followed this thread for the past few days, and saw it take a life of
its own on a different line of thought and my question subsequently got
'lost'. <g>
However, In the midst of that I've tried every viewer mentioned in the
thread and so far the ONLY one I can get to work is the Media Player
Classic. Unfortunately I can't get it to be the player of choice when I
insert a DVD; instead M$'s dvdplay.exe pops up. I've reset the associations
for both ifo and vob to MPC but it doesn't solve the problem.
I'm happy enuf with using MPC but wish I could get it to popup and run when
I insert a dvd rather than dvdplay (which won't work). I can work around it
but I hate these kind of nagging problems.
Thanks,
Colonel Blip.
E-mail: (e-mail address removed)
You wrote to All on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:05:38 -0500:
CB> I just installed a DVD and tried running a legal version of Castaway on
CB> it but the DVD player on my W2K machine doesn't handle it (get message
CB> "While setting up DVD-Video playback, it was found that * Subpicture
CB> will not be available during playback".
CB> Recommendations for a good replacement?
CB> With best regards, Colonel Blip. E-mail: (e-mail address removed)
I've followed this thread for the past few days, and saw it take a life of
its own on a different line of thought and my question subsequently got
'lost'. <g>
However, In the midst of that I've tried every viewer mentioned in the
thread and so far the ONLY one I can get to work is the Media Player
Classic. Unfortunately I can't get it to be the player of choice when I
insert a DVD; instead M$'s dvdplay.exe pops up. I've reset the associations
for both ifo and vob to MPC but it doesn't solve the problem.
I'm happy enuf with using MPC but wish I could get it to popup and run when
I insert a dvd rather than dvdplay (which won't work). I can work around it
but I hate these kind of nagging problems.
Thanks,
Colonel Blip.
E-mail: (e-mail address removed)
J
Joe Silver
Well...my point exactly. It *won't* work on systems without the card;
however, like all the programs you mentioned, it is freeware, and, also like
all the programs you mentioned, it requires specialized hardware in order to
work.
My suggestion would require someone without the necessary PCI card to spend
ten or fifteen bucks to get one. Your suggestions would require someone
without a sufficiently fast, powerful processor to spend perhaps hundreds or
thousands on an upgrade. So, while all the programs you recommended are
technically "free," apparently none of them would actually do the job for
someone with a computer comparable to mine - which, while admittedly a few
years old, is still quite usable in most repects.
At any rate, Colonel Blip, the original poster, seems to have achieved
satisfactory results with Media Player Classic, so I suppose that all of
this is moot.
J
Joe P
One solution I've had some success with is to use a small Linux boot
CD (for live CD versions that you can boot and run in RAM, without
installing see http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd )
I have used Morphix version 0.4.1 and Flonix build 24 on my laptop.
Both allow you to specify toram as a startup option. Then you get a
minimal GUI that allows you to play DVD's. I found that you may have
to try a few different versions before finding one that works well
with your hardware. The advantage is that since your CPU doesn't have
to run antivirus, firewall, etc. in the background, your CPU can work
on video. Plus you don't have to use up valuable hard drive space with
the programs.
It's worth considering and it's free.
Joe
CD (for live CD versions that you can boot and run in RAM, without
installing see http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd )
I have used Morphix version 0.4.1 and Flonix build 24 on my laptop.
Both allow you to specify toram as a startup option. Then you get a
minimal GUI that allows you to play DVD's. I found that you may have
to try a few different versions before finding one that works well
with your hardware. The advantage is that since your CPU doesn't have
to run antivirus, firewall, etc. in the background, your CPU can work
on video. Plus you don't have to use up valuable hard drive space with
the programs.
It's worth considering and it's free.
Joe