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ToolPackinMama
AJ said:
True and true again. Verily, thou speaketh truly.
True and true again. Verily, thou speaketh truly.
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Bill Turner
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That's my fault. I'm too ignorant to see the advantages of RPN and
refuse to have anything to do with it, in spite of several attempts by a
good friend to show me the light. So of course, HP gave up.
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Ancra
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That's my fault. I'm too ignorant to see the advantages of RPN and
refuse to have anything to do with it, in spite of several attempts by a
good friend to show me the light. So of course, HP gave up.
Well, it's your loss. Big loss. So you've no reasons to be so smug
about it.
ancra
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Strontium
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stacey stood up at show-n-tell, in
[email protected], and said:
Sounds sweet. This 9700np with the P4 2.4C has been no slouch...but, but,
but...just can't get enough!
stacey stood up at show-n-tell, in
[email protected], and said:
Sounds sweet. This 9700np with the P4 2.4C has been no slouch...but, but,
but...just can't get enough!
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Bill Turner
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If you say so. The only "advantages" I'm aware of are fewer keystrokes.
Are there others?
If I wntd 2 sv kystroks, ther r thngs I cud do in Englsh 2.
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Matt
Gus said:
If you buy retail-boxed components, you get better warranties than when
buying a turnkey system. I got three-year warranties on disk drive,
CPU, case, and PSU, and two-year on the mobo and floppy.
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jeffc
Matt said:
Companies like Dell will come right out to your house, depending on the
warranty you get. A complete Dell system INCLUDING this in-home warranty is
probably going to cost you less than building the exact same system
yourself.
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John Lee Brown
The main reassons for building you own computer are that you can get thejeffc said:
exact parts you want ie video and mb as well as the satisfaction of knowing
that you are capable of doing the job right.
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Gus Mahler
That's exactly the reason I didn't buy pre-made when I first built a
computer. If you wanted a decent video card, you had to get the top of
the line P3, they wouldn't put in a good video card with the Celeron
systems.
That's still true to an extent. In some ways, it would be nice to have
a mid-line ($200 or so) video card with a mid range processor (2.4 to
2.6 GHz or equivalent). Such a system won't be top of the line, but
gives you very good graphic performance for games for a reasonable
price. But even the "gaming" manufacturers like Alienware and Falcon,
require a 2.8 GHz processor.
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JAD
price. But even the "gaming" manufacturers like Alienware and Falcon,
They have no say in what a requirement for a game would be. If they put restraints is because of the money they make an the newer
processors. Hell I play any game on my 1.6 with a 7500 AIW.......maybe all the setting are on normal to high.(not highest)..but Call
of duty MOH etc play great.
They have no say in what a requirement for a game would be. If they put restraints is because of the money they make an the newer
processors. Hell I play any game on my 1.6 with a 7500 AIW.......maybe all the setting are on normal to high.(not highest)..but Call
of duty MOH etc play great.
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Ancra
By that, I think I should infer that you feel RPN is 'abbreviated' and
'cryptic' in some way, while algebraic is 'clear' and 'expressive' in
some convenient way?
Well, that's not how rpn users see it at all. There is nothing more
immediate, straight, or simple than having a function instantly
operate on objects in a stack. It's also a paradigm that is general
and can be extended to handle very complex operations and very complex
objects.
Simple or early algebraic calculators require you to enter a complex
calculation as the expression would be written from left to right,
eventually to be evaluated at some point.
I think this is highly unnatural and prone to mistakes. I never write
nor read any nontrivial algebraic expression from left to right.
Modern algebraic calculators with history and extensive editing
facilities solve that problem, and are great improvement. I certainly
think so. Still, it's an awkward tool. Much fidgeting, cluttered
display and annoying problems passing objects.
RPN, by contrast, works the way you *think*, rather than the way a
teletype would print it.
A programmable RPN-calcularor with custom menues is a world apart.
There's no comparision. It's really scary that so few can use them,
and that the latest model is like 15 (or something) years old.. :-(
ancra
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Ancra
8500 on a 1GHz is better balance IMO ;-)
You must be right about the money. Because I think Gus figured it
right. 9600xt or FX5700 on a 2.4 would play just as well as the
highend machines.
It's an industry wide affliction, so I think it may be something about
appearances too. People buy GHz. 9600xt in that 2.4C makes the 2.4GHz
seem 'expensive'. The fact that's it's a terrific performer, both in
absolute sense and seen in relation to it's price, is lost on the
customer.
Might also be that poor video specs drive the highend sales. People
look to more GHz, to deliver the performance their GF MX, 9200,
whatever, doesn't.
A good videocard and decent ram goes far. I've tried Morrowind on my
old 700MHz with Ti 200. Even with pixelshaders (realistic water), full
realtime shadows and max viewdistance, it plays well on the good side
of 'tolerable' at 800x600.
ancra
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Bill Turner
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OK, I'll go back and study RPN some more, but as I recall, the reason I
didn't care for it was exactly the opposite of what you say above - it
does NOT work the way I think. And apparently a lot of folks agree.
More later.
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Sam
I Recently upgraded my Pentium III 500 MGHTZ System to a Pentium 4
2.4 ghtz and brought it into shop mainly because of the CPU AND My
very little knowledge of compatibility.
After adding motherboard, CPU, Power supply and memory, the whole
upgrade was about $500.00 only! Much cheaper than buying a new
computer.
I kept the CD-RW, Harddrive, video card, modem and soundcard which I
did add myself.
But must agree that building a pc is not complicated at all... just a
matter of hooking stuff together.
2.4 ghtz and brought it into shop mainly because of the CPU AND My
very little knowledge of compatibility.
After adding motherboard, CPU, Power supply and memory, the whole
upgrade was about $500.00 only! Much cheaper than buying a new
computer.
I kept the CD-RW, Harddrive, video card, modem and soundcard which I
did add myself.
But must agree that building a pc is not complicated at all... just a
matter of hooking stuff together.
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Ancra
Well, yes, it struck me as I wrote that, that we might need to qualify
us, "...work the way I'm used to think..." ;-)
You have one of them dual mode HP49 then?
ancra
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Bill Turner
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No, my only calculators are the conventional type. Will do some
scrounging.
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Bill Turner
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The hard part seems to be choosing which parts to hook together, at
least that's my experience. XP gave me fits when it first came out, but
nowadays nearly all hardware is XP compatible.