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J. Clarke
Sham said:
Now why would Panasonic be selling JVC products? High quality JVC is still
pretty crappy Panasonic.
Now why would Panasonic be selling JVC products? High quality JVC is still
pretty crappy Panasonic.
M
Mike P
Yes, I didn't mean to insinuate otherwise 
Mike
Mike
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Oscar T Grouch
:>Just because Sapphire make cards for ATI doesn't not mean that their own
:>brand cards are of the same quality. For example, the JVC and Technics
:>hi-fi equipment is made in the same factory by the same workers, but the
:>Technics brand is the 'higher quality JVC', and tend to have better parts in
:>them.
:>
:>During a summer vacation holiday in the UK, I worked on an audio speaker
:>production line, where we would be building low quality Panasonic speakers
:>one week, and high quality Mordant-Short ones the next. The only thing that
:>really changed was the number of blemishes we had to look for before
:>rejecting an empty cabinet carcass (for the MS ones it was 'zero blemishes',
:>for the Panasonic, we were told to fill in small scratches with a black
:>crayon), and which box the speakers and muffler wadding came from. I
:>personally used to sneak the odd $300 Mordant short speaker set into some
:>$60 Panasonic speakers, because (a) It felt good and (b) getting caught
:>doing it meant the sack, so it broke up the boredom
:>
:>Having said that, it seems that many recent batches of Sapphire cards are
:>simply rebadged ATI cards. It seems like the price differential between the
Sometimes not even "rebadged". See below.
:>two sets of components is less that the cost of retooling the production
:>lines, and in many cases, its all ATI spec cards.
I purchased an OEM Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro from Newegg in the fall of
2002 for around $75.00 cheaper than the "ATI Built" one. I noticed it
came with an ATI sticker on the fan but didn't think too much about it
at the time since it came in a white box with Sapphire software. When
the card failed about a month ago I went to ATI's site and checked the
part number. It showed up as "ATI Built" so I did an online RMA
(which was accepted), sent the card off to ATI, and received a shiny
new/refurbed card back less than 2 weeks later.
Luck of the draw I guess.
OTG
:>I think the upshot is that the Sapphire cards are likely be the same quality
:>as the ATI ones, but *this is not guaranteed*, because they are not defined
:>to the same spec, and the Sapphire ones may have slightly inferior memory,
:>depending on availability.
:>
:>S
:>brand cards are of the same quality. For example, the JVC and Technics
:>hi-fi equipment is made in the same factory by the same workers, but the
:>Technics brand is the 'higher quality JVC', and tend to have better parts in
:>them.
:>
:>During a summer vacation holiday in the UK, I worked on an audio speaker
:>production line, where we would be building low quality Panasonic speakers
:>one week, and high quality Mordant-Short ones the next. The only thing that
:>really changed was the number of blemishes we had to look for before
:>rejecting an empty cabinet carcass (for the MS ones it was 'zero blemishes',
:>for the Panasonic, we were told to fill in small scratches with a black
:>crayon), and which box the speakers and muffler wadding came from. I
:>personally used to sneak the odd $300 Mordant short speaker set into some
:>$60 Panasonic speakers, because (a) It felt good and (b) getting caught
:>doing it meant the sack, so it broke up the boredom
:>
:>Having said that, it seems that many recent batches of Sapphire cards are
:>simply rebadged ATI cards. It seems like the price differential between the
Sometimes not even "rebadged". See below.
:>two sets of components is less that the cost of retooling the production
:>lines, and in many cases, its all ATI spec cards.
I purchased an OEM Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro from Newegg in the fall of
2002 for around $75.00 cheaper than the "ATI Built" one. I noticed it
came with an ATI sticker on the fan but didn't think too much about it
at the time since it came in a white box with Sapphire software. When
the card failed about a month ago I went to ATI's site and checked the
part number. It showed up as "ATI Built" so I did an online RMA
(which was accepted), sent the card off to ATI, and received a shiny
new/refurbed card back less than 2 weeks later.
Luck of the draw I guess.
OTG
:>I think the upshot is that the Sapphire cards are likely be the same quality
:>as the ATI ones, but *this is not guaranteed*, because they are not defined
:>to the same spec, and the Sapphire ones may have slightly inferior memory,
:>depending on availability.
:>
:>S