Programs with Vista

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Saran said:
But why are paying end users forced into such a cornor when it does
absolutely nothing to combat main stream pirating. XP's activation was
cracked early on and Vista's has been already too (not that I'm using
one... or Vista for that matter.) All it does is make people jump through
hoops while the folks in Redmond sit back and enjoy their popcorn.
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At least they are doing something. If something is cracked, they need to
find alternative methods.
Its hardly forcing people into a corner asking them to activate a product.
If someone is a legitimate customer then activating shoudl not be a problem.
Its piracy that has put us into this situation in the first place. Blame
the thieves, not MS for trying to protect their products.
 
Beck said:
At least they are doing something. If something is cracked, they
need to find alternative methods.
Its hardly forcing people into a corner asking them to activate a
product. If someone is a legitimate customer then activating shoudl
not be a problem. Its piracy that has put us into this situation in
the first place. Blame the thieves, not MS for trying to protect
their products.
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But the activate many times itself IS a big problem, as it doesn't
always work as it should, and the requirements it imposes with Vista are
just plain absurd.

You still don't seem to get it. The "protection" they employ *doesn't*
actually protect anything. It just makes it harder for legit users to
USE the product.

The problem is companies like Microsoft are attacking the symtom rather
than attacking the disease, and then we have to deal with the end result
of that imcompitence.
 
I'm not surprised there isn't a list of supported applications published
yet, as it would probably be embarrassingly short.
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There is, and you're right

(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933305)

There's the "Certified for Windows Vista" List, then
there's the "Works with Windows Vista" List.

The first one pretty much guarantees it will work in Vista, while the second
only IMPLIES it will.

Hats off to the boys in marketing.
btw - as you've suggested, the "Certified List" does indeed only contain
about 100 entries - a quarter of which are MS products.
 
Thanks for the list. I was trying to decide whether to buy another license
of Nero for my Vista machine. I think I'll install the trial now. If it
works, Ahead gets themselves another sale.

Art
 
But the activate many times itself IS a big problem, as it doesn't always
work as it should, and the requirements it imposes with Vista are just
plain absurd.

You still don't seem to get it. The "protection" they employ *doesn't*
actually protect anything. It just makes it harder for legit users to USE
the product.

The problem is companies like Microsoft are attacking the symtom rather
than attacking the disease, and then we have to deal with the end result
of that imcompitence.
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I do get it. I am not saying it does work properly, I am just saying that
its piracy that has got us into this situation in the first place.
 
Beck said:
I do get it. I am not saying it does work properly, I am just saying
that its piracy that has got us into this situation in the first
place.
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Arguably, at the same time, it's things like this that actually increase
it. At the very least it increases the creation and downloading of
cracks just to get rid of it. There are many legit users who don't want
to deal with that, and just get rid of it after doing their "homework."
 
Beck said:
Different bios could mean a different computer. The OS has no way of
knowing whether a person has flashed the bios to a newer version or
installed it on a similar computer.
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The OS could certainly tell the difference since installing on a similar
computer would still cause many changes in the hardware hash:
hard drive serial number, NIC adapter MAC address, etc.

Gary VanderMolen
 
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