Problems installing a new hardrive

[Bazzer Smith]

It seems possible you had a jumper on the capacity limit
pins.

Yes the jumper guide was rather confusing, it didn't show
jumper setting for slave, because the correct setting was no jumper.
Probably not that unusual, but I was fairly convinced the 'standard'
settings were. master, slave. c/s, starting at the IDE cable end.

If choosing between partition or whatever, it depends a lot
on what, whatever is.

True, I think I will not bother with partitions for the time being.

If the only purpose is semi-large music and video files, no
point partitioning it for that alone. If on the other hand
you were working with these files as-in editing, it might be
useful to partition off the first, faster portion of the
drive to keep the I/O faster... but for playback purposes,
it won't matter with the typical compressions used in
popular formats.

Maybe I will split in half, my current drive of 80 meg is not even full yet.
I think it might have two platters, would that be a sensible? Seperating
the two platters?

Also if you have the disk full of 'stuff' is that a major problem if you
want to reorganise it? (Change partitions sizes?).
I'm new to this stuff.

Why not let power management do what it was meant to, spin
down the drive after a period of inactivity? Relatively
speaking, an asleep drive doesn't use much power.

It seemed qute warm when the bios was not even detecting it,
had me a bit worried!!!

 

[Bazzer Smith]

Yes, those arent usually cable select cables.

No wonder I had problems with C/S on my old machine!!

Yeah, it will work, just not as well as a proper 80 wire cable.

Usually most obvious when copying files around and doing images etc.



Nope, thats not even a listed jumper config in
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k80/7k80jum.htm

Ah, we're getting the drives confused now, that is the original drive,
I am speaking of the new drive, which is a Samsung SP2514N
if I have it correct.


I think the jumper settings are shown on the diagram in the
attachment on this page.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/faqs/faqs_20021127_0000239609.htm

http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/faqs/files/20060316145553_JUMPER-EN.doc


Its the first 'slave' diagram, which shows the jumpers horizontally,
which I guess, means there is no jumper setting and you are just storing the
jumpers on 'meaningless' pins.


This is the drive on samsungs site I believe.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Har...ve_SpinPointPSeries_SP2514N.asp?page=Features

Souonds like it is 125gig there for some reason.

This is a better link for it.
http://www.techtastic.ca/reviews5/sp2514n-2.html
Love the fact that it is "super quiet", I had a WD drive before and I could
not believe the racket it made, never again!!
(It was a very inexpensive too!).

Sure, it obviously works, but it isnt a legal jumper config.

Its always dangerous to use an unlisted jumper config, that can bite.


Cant see the relevance of that to your config.

Think we crossed wires somewhere along the lines!!

Yeah, thats the main situation where it can make sense.

Particularly as you would normally use NTFS formatting so you can handle
video files over 2G and linux doesnt do writes to NTFS very well at all.

Actually I think I better master XP before I even consider Linux :O)
I can't really think of a valid reason to use Linux at the moment other than
curiosity.

 

[Rod Speed]

Yes the jumper guide was rather confusing, it didn't show
jumper setting for slave, because the correct setting was no jumper.

No it wasnt, it just works. The correct setting is safer.

The correct setting is with jumpers on both pairs
furthest away from the ribbon cable. AB and CD
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k80/7k80jum.htm

Probably not that unusual, but I was fairly convinced the 'standard'
settings were. master, slave. c/s, starting at the IDE cable end.

Nope, that drive has pairs of jumpers for all those settings.

True, I think I will not bother with partitions for the time being.

Maybe I will split in half, my current drive of 80 meg is not even full yet. I think it
might have two platters, would that be a sensible? Seperating the two platters?

It isnt possible to partition it that way.
You get both platters used with all partitions.

Also if you have the disk full of 'stuff' is that a major problem if you want to
reorganise it? (Change partitions sizes?).

Yes, thats the main downside with more than one partition,
its risky to adjust the partitions without a full backup of the
entire physical drive.

I'm new to this stuff.

It seemed qute warm when the bios was not even detecting it, had me a bit worried!!!

Yeah, quite a few of those 250G drives arent all that cool.

I prefer Samsungs myself, cool and virtually silent.

 

[Bazzer Smith]

No it wasnt, it just works. The correct setting is safer.

The correct setting is with jumpers on both pairs
furthest away from the ribbon cable. AB and CD
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k80/7k80jum.htm


Nope, that drive has pairs of jumpers for all those settings.




It isnt possible to partition it that way.
You get both platters used with all partitions.


Yes, thats the main downside with more than one partition,
its risky to adjust the partitions without a full backup of the
entire physical drive.



Yeah, quite a few of those 250G drives arent all that cool.

I prefer Samsungs myself, cool and virtually silent.

Me too :O)
As I explained earlier it is a Samsung (not that I was sure it was as 'good
drive'
when I bought it, but it did say something about it being quiet on the box).

When I said warm, perhaps 'quite warm' would have been a better phrase.
I guess the fact that I could feel a bit of warmth was a good indication
that
I had not destroyed the thing in my endeavours!!

 

[Rod Speed]

Actually I think I better master XP before I even consider Linux :O)

Yeah, hadnt realised that you have just stopped using W95.

If you try Linux now you could end up with a meltdown between your ears |-)

I can't really think of a valid reason to use Linux at the moment other than curiosity.

Yep, thats the only real reason in your situation.

 

[kony]

Maybe I will split in half, my current drive of 80 meg is not even full yet.
I think it might have two platters, would that be a sensible? Seperating
the two platters?

You won't be separating the two platters, just the total
available space.

I'd tend to split them up based on the types of files before
that approach, but if you'd only use the drive for extra
storage it might as well stay one partition. On the other
hand, if you might someday want to install an OS on it, you
might make the first partition large enough for that...
which of course depends on what OS it is, and the
applications too... for example with WinXP, maybe somewhere
between 10 and 20MB, more if you have a lot of large apps or
games that *need* to go on the OS partition.

Also if you have the disk full of 'stuff' is that a major problem if you
want to reorganise it? (Change partitions sizes?).
I'm new to this stuff.

That's an entire topic onto itself, but basically if you
want to shrink the size of a partition, obviously you have
to have no more data on it than would fit on the new,
smaller size it will become. So you'd end up moving data
off if there were too much. It's not a difficult thing to
do but you'd need enough free space to juggle the data
around which you may easily have since you mentioned having
so much free space on your 80GB drive too.

It seemed qute warm when the bios was not even detecting it,
had me a bit worried!!!

Well it was awake and spinning then, right? There's the
difference, it's not a matter of accessing the data that
warms it up (much), it's that it's awake and spinning. I
don't know how much power reduction there is on the circuit
board from sleep modes but just spinning down should be
pretty significant. If you had a half dozen in a Via C3 or
AMD Geode, etc, low-powered system then the drives would be
a significant pecentage of total system power usage but on
most semi-modern systems they're a rather small %.