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Klompmeester
Rod Speed said:
Just use the proper media you tightwad and continue to use a Sharpie on your
existing media.
It's not ****ing brain surgery.
Just use the proper media you tightwad and continue to use a Sharpie on your
existing media.
It's not ****ing brain surgery.
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Will_S
Klompmeester said:
Pretty much spot on
I have the Canon i865 and it prints brilliantly on printable CD/Dvds
There is no doubt they could make an ink that would work on normal cd/dvds
but I doubt it would be cost effective for the company
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Obscured by Clouds
Rod Speed said:
Yes and I want to eat broccoli and have it taste like filet mignon.
That ain't happening either.
R
rebel
(snip)
likewise
Have you had any issues with nozzle blockages on the print head, and if so how
readily were you able to clear them?
likewise
Have you had any issues with nozzle blockages on the print head, and if so how
readily were you able to clear them?
R
Rod Speed
rebel said:
Nope, but then I've only been using it for a week or so, been too slack to take it out of the box till now.
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Mike Richter
Use a thermal printer.Rod said:
Mike
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Rod Speed
Mike Richter said:
No thanks, cant justify the cost of those, even used.
The marginally higher price for an inject printer than can print on CDs and DVDs is trivial to justify tho.
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Arthur Entlich
The inks in felt tips like Sharpies are not waterbase in most cases, but
solvent based with a volatile solvent which in a standard inkjet printer
would dry out in no time and clog the heads up.
Even if "Sharpie ink" were available, I would not suggest loading it in
a household inkjet. With an Epson printer it would probably clog with
other brands, it might even catch fire when some types of heads heated
the ink up.
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solvent based with a volatile solvent which in a standard inkjet printer
would dry out in no time and clog the heads up.
Even if "Sharpie ink" were available, I would not suggest loading it in
a household inkjet. With an Epson printer it would probably clog with
other brands, it might even catch fire when some types of heads heated
the ink up.
Art
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Keith
From Maxell's web site:
* Question: What's the best way to Label CD-R Media?
* Answer: Use a felt-tipped water based pen such as the Maxell Disk
Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).
I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.
Keith
* Question: What's the best way to Label CD-R Media?
* Answer: Use a felt-tipped water based pen such as the Maxell Disk
Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).
I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.
Keith
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smh
.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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http://tinyurl.com/38wte6
(No Mikey S-Lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
(is a LIBEL -- despite Mikey claimed to have PROOF of libels!)
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Mike Richter squeaked:
Does Sanford know anything now, Mikey?
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From: smh
Date: 12/8/04
Subject: DVD Labels
Mike Richter crapped:
Of course, you must have just dug that out of your ass,
isn't that right, Mikey?
(From CD-R FAQ)
The official word from Sanford is:
"Sanford has used Sharpie Markers on CDs for years and we have
never experienced a problem. We do not believe that the Sharpie
ink can affect these CDs, however we have not performed any
long-term laboratory testing to verify this. We have spoken to
many major CD manufacturers about this issue. They use the
Sharpie Markers on CDs internally as well, and do not believe
that the Sharpie Ink will cause any harm to their products.
Sanford Consumer Affairs"
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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http://tinyurl.com/38wte6
(No Mikey S-Lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
(is a LIBEL -- despite Mikey claimed to have PROOF of libels!)
'
Mike Richter squeaked:
Does Sanford know anything now, Mikey?
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From: smh
Date: 12/8/04
Subject: DVD Labels
Mike Richter crapped:
Of course, you must have just dug that out of your ass,
isn't that right, Mikey?
(From CD-R FAQ)
The official word from Sanford is:
"Sanford has used Sharpie Markers on CDs for years and we have
never experienced a problem. We do not believe that the Sharpie
ink can affect these CDs, however we have not performed any
long-term laboratory testing to verify this. We have spoken to
many major CD manufacturers about this issue. They use the
Sharpie Markers on CDs internally as well, and do not believe
that the Sharpie Ink will cause any harm to their products.
Sanford Consumer Affairs"
=========================
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Rod Speed
Keith said:
I already said I use Sharpies and want to use an inkjet printer instead.
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David Z
This isn't the real Rod Speed folks. The real Speed doesn't ask pitifully
stupid questions.
stupid questions.
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Arthur Entlich
I'm not sure if any longitudinal tests have been done on the Sharpie
solvent inks. The newer Sharpies seems to have a acetic acid smell.
One thing to consider is that CD surfaces are quite different than DVDs.
CDs top surface is usually a thin protective layer of plastic which is
sprayed on like a lacquer. Some have added a surface designed for
accepting ink or other printing methods. Under those surfaces is the
vaporized or electroplated metal (usually aluminum, sometimes silver, or
silver and gold, or gold). Then, on one time writable discs, under
that, is a surface that is an organic dye, which is made either opaque
or non-reflective when it is subjected to the writing (burning) laser.
With RW disks, the chemistry is different still using a material that
has a reversible reaction to the write laser, so it can be changed to
opaque/non transmissive or transparent many times over. Finally, under
that layer is a very thick layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is the
underside surface of the CD which the laser writes and reads through.
DVDs are quite different. The most important aspect is that the
vulnerable light sensitive data forming layers are sandwiched on both
sides with a layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is about equal in
thickness on both surfaces. You can see this if you hold a DVD on it's
edge and look closely with a light on the opposite edge. That design
makes the data surface quite well protected from either side, and you
could probably write on the top surface with the majority of inks and
paints without damaging it, since polycarbonate is a relatively
non-reactive to most ink solvents within reason.
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solvent inks. The newer Sharpies seems to have a acetic acid smell.
One thing to consider is that CD surfaces are quite different than DVDs.
CDs top surface is usually a thin protective layer of plastic which is
sprayed on like a lacquer. Some have added a surface designed for
accepting ink or other printing methods. Under those surfaces is the
vaporized or electroplated metal (usually aluminum, sometimes silver, or
silver and gold, or gold). Then, on one time writable discs, under
that, is a surface that is an organic dye, which is made either opaque
or non-reflective when it is subjected to the writing (burning) laser.
With RW disks, the chemistry is different still using a material that
has a reversible reaction to the write laser, so it can be changed to
opaque/non transmissive or transparent many times over. Finally, under
that layer is a very thick layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is the
underside surface of the CD which the laser writes and reads through.
DVDs are quite different. The most important aspect is that the
vulnerable light sensitive data forming layers are sandwiched on both
sides with a layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is about equal in
thickness on both surfaces. You can see this if you hold a DVD on it's
edge and look closely with a light on the opposite edge. That design
makes the data surface quite well protected from either side, and you
could probably write on the top surface with the majority of inks and
paints without damaging it, since polycarbonate is a relatively
non-reactive to most ink solvents within reason.
Art
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Arthur Entlich
Basically, as I understand it, there are two types of printable CDs/DVDs
which will work with standard inkjet printers, one with a white surface
and one with a transparent surface, both specially designed for this
purpose. Some people have found the clear surface a hassle, as it is
slow to dry and finicky with some inks, and with getting the right look.
Standard non-printable disks have a synthetic lacquer on them which doe
snot accept water based or even pigment inks. It isn't porous, so the
ink sits on the surface and VERY slowly dries, but will rub off or smear
if it gets wet.
There are special solvent inkjet printers which use a special
formulation of ink that "sets" with UV light exposure or with heat.
This keeps the heads from clogging because the ink will literally not
harden without UV or heat. I don't think standard inkjet printers will
tolerate these inks, but maybe someone has experimented and succeeded.
Art
which will work with standard inkjet printers, one with a white surface
and one with a transparent surface, both specially designed for this
purpose. Some people have found the clear surface a hassle, as it is
slow to dry and finicky with some inks, and with getting the right look.
Standard non-printable disks have a synthetic lacquer on them which doe
snot accept water based or even pigment inks. It isn't porous, so the
ink sits on the surface and VERY slowly dries, but will rub off or smear
if it gets wet.
There are special solvent inkjet printers which use a special
formulation of ink that "sets" with UV light exposure or with heat.
This keeps the heads from clogging because the ink will literally not
harden without UV or heat. I don't think standard inkjet printers will
tolerate these inks, but maybe someone has experimented and succeeded.
Art
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Rod Speed
Arthur Entlich said:
Thats essentially what I was asking.
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Terryc
Mike said:
you have done this?
AFAIK, thermal printers use a special "paper"
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Derek
The common direct thermal printers used in Point of Sale equipment do.Terryc said:
Thermal transfer printers are different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_transfer_printer
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Richard Steinfeld
Alan said:
LOL. Good one Richard.
Great to read a bit of humour here from time to time.
Nice to be appreciated. When you're depressed, just look for my posts.
Yes. I agree. I think that this is the perfect solution for the OP,
since the printable disks that I use with pens!)aren't that easy to come
by, at least here in the USA -- probably because we don't seem to have
many printers available that will print on them.
One nice thing about Sharpie pens, too, is that ordinary rubbing alcohol
(70% isopropyl) and a rag will remove the ink from the disk. 90% works
even better. So, if you screw up, like absent-mindedly draw a picture of
your mother-in-law's butt, your safety will be preserved.
I think that Sharpies are really fine for this; the colors in the sets
are cool. I even found some markers at a Dollar Store. They're stinkier
and the writing is flabbier (mushy and imprecise), but they're really
cheap. I use them for major titles, such as "Beethoven." I used to use
color-coded labels for my floppy disks, back before there were hard
disks. A leftover from that time is that I reserve the color red for
utility disks; blue for software, green for data. This makes it easier
to grab the right CD.
Anyway, I think that using Sharpies will be neat and easy. Simple.
Richard
Richard
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Arthur Entlich
The term "thermal printer" is not specific enough. Thermal printers
simply mean they use heat in some manner to print.
There are thermal printers which use the heat to activate a specially
treated paper that is heat sensitive, as mentioned, that's how older fax
machines and many point of sale receipt machines now work.
Then there are thermal head printers which use the heat of a resistor to
heat liquid inks to propel the ink out. The Canon, Lexmark and most HP
printers use this or similar technologies.
Then there is a thermal transfer printer, which uses a ribbon or sheet
with transfer dye or plastic. The head heats the sheet in the locations
where the transfer is to occur, and the dye or ink is melted onto the
surface of the object or paper.
Then there is thermal inks, which remain liquid on the surface of the
object until the surface is heated to "set" the ink and solidify it,
Then there is dye sublimation thermal process, where the ribbon or sheet
contains a dye color that sublimes when heated to vapor which transfer
to a special receiver sheet where it reforms into a solid within the
paper surface.
And lastly, there is dye sublimation thermal transfer, where the dye sub
inks are printed into a transfer sheet, usually in mirror image, and
that sheet is clamped to a an object like a mug or plate which is coated
with a receptor surface. The clamp is heated and this vaporizes the
inks and they migrate to the receptor surface. That's how those photo
mugs are made, for instance.
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simply mean they use heat in some manner to print.
There are thermal printers which use the heat to activate a specially
treated paper that is heat sensitive, as mentioned, that's how older fax
machines and many point of sale receipt machines now work.
Then there are thermal head printers which use the heat of a resistor to
heat liquid inks to propel the ink out. The Canon, Lexmark and most HP
printers use this or similar technologies.
Then there is a thermal transfer printer, which uses a ribbon or sheet
with transfer dye or plastic. The head heats the sheet in the locations
where the transfer is to occur, and the dye or ink is melted onto the
surface of the object or paper.
Then there is thermal inks, which remain liquid on the surface of the
object until the surface is heated to "set" the ink and solidify it,
Then there is dye sublimation thermal process, where the ribbon or sheet
contains a dye color that sublimes when heated to vapor which transfer
to a special receiver sheet where it reforms into a solid within the
paper surface.
And lastly, there is dye sublimation thermal transfer, where the dye sub
inks are printed into a transfer sheet, usually in mirror image, and
that sheet is clamped to a an object like a mug or plate which is coated
with a receptor surface. The clamp is heated and this vaporizes the
inks and they migrate to the receptor surface. That's how those photo
mugs are made, for instance.
Art
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David Z
Guys, don't fall for this - it's a troll pretending to be Speed. This
question is too stupid to be from the real Rod Speed, and besides, it's not
his style at all. Since when has he ever *asked* a question before?!
question is too stupid to be from the real Rod Speed, and besides, it's not
his style at all. Since when has he ever *asked* a question before?!