Pricelessware CD

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That's about what I've concluded so far. You can compare the two
dvdsig.md5 files with a dupe checker program *or* you can copy the
PL2004 CD to the hard drive, replace the dvdsig.md5 file from the
CD with a downloaded dvdsig.md5 file and run the dvdsig.exe
program.

dunno if I'm missing some easier way to check. . .
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Or you can create an md5 sum of dvdsig.md5.
Does that make sense?
OK, I just copied and pasted dvdsig.md5 from here-

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/dvdsig.md5

Then used MD5 Summer (postcardware)

http://www.md5summer.org/

to create an md5 sum of the pasted dvdsig.md5 file, ended up with
this-

1271797eb445f2a231ccd017e8ac1b2a *dvdsig.md5

Can anyone confirm this with the CD version of dvdsig.md5.
 
bambam <[email protected]> wrote:
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Or you can create an md5 sum of dvdsig.md5.
Clever!

Does that make sense?
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OK, I just copied and pasted dvdsig.md5 from here-

Then used MD5 Summer (postcardware)

to create an md5 sum of the pasted dvdsig.md5 file, ended up with
this-
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1271797eb445f2a231ccd017e8ac1b2a *dvdsig.md5
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Can anyone confirm this with the CD version of dvdsig.md5.
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1.txt,1271797eb445f2a231ccd017e8ac1b2a (PL file) *

1.txt,c243c069a685e2050e87b264e12264b8 (CD file)

1.txt,4c0ca02cf1f49191f867ab43f833be43 (dump CD to drive)

I did get the same value for the PL file.

I had to rename the files, as .md5 files are skipped. I got different
checksums for the checksum file when I copied the CD .md5 file to
disk and when I copied the entire CD to disk and reran the checksum
program???

It looks like the checksum program did not recreate the .md5 file in
the same order in which the PL file is created. I just scanned the
first page full and I see differences between the order of files and
directories.

It looks like it is going to be necessary for the end user who wants
to verify the files to copy the CD to hard disk in order to run the
checksum program. The program reads and writes to the current
directory, checking all subdirectories, rather than having the ability
to run from hard disk and doing the files on a CD.


I can write a small program with the PL file hard coded that will
check user created file lines and report any that are not identical.
That is, a line for line check in which line order does not matter.
Only the content of an entire line is compared to the PL file for
exact matches.

Short of that, it is far too tedious to read and compare 32 hex digit
strings manually. Does anyone else have other ideas?
 
1.txt,1271797eb445f2a231ccd017e8ac1b2a (PL file) *

1.txt,c243c069a685e2050e87b264e12264b8 (CD file)

1.txt,4c0ca02cf1f49191f867ab43f833be43 (dump CD to drive)

I did get the same value for the PL file.

I had to rename the files, as .md5 files are skipped. I got different
checksums for the checksum file when I copied the CD .md5 file to
disk and when I copied the entire CD to disk and reran the checksum
program???

It looks like the checksum program did not recreate the .md5 file in
the same order in which the PL file is created. I just scanned the
first page full and I see differences between the order of files and
directories.

It looks like it is going to be necessary for the end user who wants
to verify the files to copy the CD to hard disk in order to run the
checksum program. The program reads and writes to the current
directory, checking all subdirectories, rather than having the ability
to run from hard disk and doing the files on a CD.


I can write a small program with the PL file hard coded that will
check user created file lines and report any that are not identical.
That is, a line for line check in which line order does not matter.
Only the content of an entire line is compared to the PL file for
exact matches.

Short of that, it is far too tedious to read and compare 32 hex digit
strings manually. Does anyone else have other ideas?
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Easy MD5 Creator
http://bssite.dns2go.com/
 
I did get the same value for the PL file.

I had to rename the files, as .md5 files are skipped. I got different
checksums for the checksum file when I copied the CD .md5 file to
disk and when I copied the entire CD to disk and reran the checksum
program???

It looks like the checksum program did not recreate the .md5 file in
the same order in which the PL file is created. I just scanned the
first page full and I see differences between the order of files and
directories.
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Does anyone else have other ideas?
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This is the easiest method I've been able to think of. It doesn't
require an additional program. I did some testing with valid and invalid
md5 files - it seems to work - confirmation requested.

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How to verify the PL2004 CD:

Create a temporary directory on your hard drive.
Create a subdirectory.

Copy dvdsig.exe from the CD to the directory.
Copy dvdsig.md5 from the CD to the subdirectory.

Doubleclick on dvdsig.exe, click scan.
This will create a dvdsig.md5 file in the directory.

In the subdirectory replace the dvdsig.md5 file from the CD with a copy
of dvdsig.md5 downloaded from the Pricelessware site.

Doubleclick on dvdsig.exe, click verify.

If you have a true and complete copy of the PL2004 CD the program with
show this message:

Total: 2 OK: 2 Bad: 0 Missing: 0
The operation completed successfully: 2 files, OMB, Os
 
Susan Bugher <[email protected]> wrote:
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This is the easiest method I've been able to think of. It doesn't
require an additional program. I did some testing with valid and invalid
md5 files - it seems to work - confirmation requested.
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How to verify the PL2004 CD:
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Create a temporary directory on your hard drive.
Create a subdirectory.
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Copy dvdsig.exe from the CD to the directory.
Copy dvdsig.md5 from the CD to the subdirectory.
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Doubleclick on dvdsig.exe, click scan.
This will create a dvdsig.md5 file in the directory.
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In the subdirectory replace the dvdsig.md5 file from the CD with a copy
of dvdsig.md5 downloaded from the Pricelessware site.
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Doubleclick on dvdsig.exe, click verify.
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If you have a true and complete copy of the PL2004 CD the program with
show this message:
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Total: 2 OK: 2 Bad: 0 Missing: 0
The operation completed successfully: 2 files, OMB, Os
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Cool! Nice and easy.
 
I've revised the CD web page - I think it's close to ready.

I would appreciate some feedback - *especially* from the volunteer burners.
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These arrangements seem fine to me. No doubt we'll begin to work out
additional strategies as time goes on and we see what demand is like.
 
Susan said:
I've revised the CD web page - I think it's close to ready.

I would appreciate some feedback - *especially* from the volunteer burners.

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
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You didn't ask for a proofreader, but you're getting one anyway. :)

"Sign up for a Usenet account with a news provider. Individual.NET
news-service offers free access to Usenet groups. More information is
here:: http://news.individual.net"
See the extra colon?

"DO NOT send CD requests sent to the Pricelessware Links Button."
That sentence doesn't sound right.

Other than those very minor nits, it looks great.
 
Roger Johansson said:
This text seems to assume that all CD burners will use a printer and
print a black and white cover and deliver with every CD they burn.
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I know I can't....... printer ran out of ink a couple months ago :o\

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)
 
Ben said:
"DO NOT send CD requests sent to the Pricelessware Links Button."
That sentence doesn't sound right.

Other than those very minor nits, it looks great.
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I see a bigger problem:

"CD covers. The first (black and white) cover is included on the CD. The
other covers may be downloaded. Click on the thumbnail to view the full
size image."

This text seems to assume that all CD burners will use a printer and
print a black and white cover and deliver with every CD they burn.

I kind of doubt if that is possible, or if the volunteers are ready for
that extra effort.

I guess that text is actually just a message from Susan to the persons
she delivers CD:s to, but that text will be read by people who want
copies of the CD from all volunteers too.
 
"DO NOT send CD requests sent to the Pricelessware Links Button."
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That sentence doesn't sound right.
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Sugested rewordings:

"DO NOT use the Pricelessware Links button to send CD requests." or

"The Pricessware Links button is NOT to be used to send CD requests" or

"CD requests sent via the Pricelessware Links button will NOT be
actioned."
 
Ben said:
You didn't ask for a proofreader, but you're getting one anyway. :)
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I'm grateful for the help.
"Sign up for a Usenet account with a news provider. Individual.NET
news-service offers free access to Usenet groups. More information is
here:: http://news.individual.net"
See the extra colon?
Yup.

"DO NOT send CD requests sent to the Pricelessware Links Button."
That sentence doesn't sound right.
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I couldn't agree more. . .
Other than those very minor nits, it looks great.
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Revisions to follow. Thanks. :)

Susan
 
Roger said:
Ben Cooper wrote:




I see a bigger problem:

"CD covers. The first (black and white) cover is included on the CD. The
other covers may be downloaded. Click on the thumbnail to view the full
size image."

This text seems to assume that all CD burners will use a printer and
print a black and white cover and deliver with every CD they burn.
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I would say: this *cover* is included *with* the CD if I meant
preprinted by the person burning the CD.

The distinction seems clear to me but it's clearly not as clear as I
thought. . . ;)

Would this be better: The image file for the first (black and white)
cover is included on the CD?

Susan
 
Susan Bugher wrote to alt.comp.freeware on Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:58:22 -
0400, the following ...
I've revised the CD web page - I think it's close to ready.

I would appreciate some feedback - *especially* from the volunteer burners.

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm

Susan
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Hi,

I volunteer to be a burner.

On the above mentioned page...
"In the subdirectory replace the dvdsig.md5 file from the CD with a copy
of dvdsig.md5 downloaded from the Pricelessware site."
Where do I find the dvdsig.md5 file on the Pricelessware site?

Mark S.
 
Susan said:
I would say: this *cover* is included *with* the CD if I meant
preprinted by the person burning the CD.

The distinction seems clear to me but it's clearly not as clear as I
thought. . . ;)

Would this be better: The image file for the first (black and white)
cover is included on the CD?
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This text will be read by people who want to get a copy if the CD from
one of the volunteers.

The text tells them that there will be a cover picture included.
But how can we promise that?

The volunteers will only make a copy if the CD and send to the people
who want a copy. We cannot demand that the volunteers also print a cover
picture for every CD they burn.

Steven Burn understood the problem immediately, his printer doesn't
work, so how can he produce cover pictures for copies of the CD he
burns?

Isn't it enough effort for a volunteer to burn a copy of the CD and send
to a person who wants it? Does every volunteer have to print a cover
picture for every CD too?

I suggest that the text is changed to something like this:

"If you want a cover for your copy of the PL CD you can download one of
these pictures and print it out on your own printer."

You (Susan) can only include the cover picture with the CD:s you burn
and send to the volunteers, you cannot include such a cover picture with
all the CD:s they burn and send to people. But the text promises those
people that they will also get a cover picture included.

That is the problem with that text.
 
Susan said:
I would say: this *cover* is included *with* the CD if I meant
preprinted by the person burning the CD.

The distinction seems clear to me but it's clearly not as clear as I
thought. . . ;)

Would this be better: The image file for the first (black and white)
cover is included on the CD?
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Aha, now I understand, it is the image file which is included on the CD,
not the image printed out. Oooops, sorry.

But, if I could not understand this from the text, and not Steven Burn
either, maybe the text should be modified just to make it easier to
understand.
 
Susan Bugher wrote to alt.comp.freeware on Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:58:22 -
0400, the following ...
I've revised the CD web page - I think it's close to ready.

I would appreciate some feedback - *especially* from the volunteer burners.

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm

Susan
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Hi,

I volunteer to be a burner.

On the above mentioned page...
"In the subdirectory replace the dvdsig.md5 file from the CD with a copy
of dvdsig.md5 downloaded from the Pricelessware site."
Where do I find the dvdsig.md5 file on the Pricelessware site?

Mark S.
 
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