Price of HDD

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They had a 1TB Barracuda for $55 a few weeks ago, and I almost picked one up
(kicking myself now because I didn't).

Jon
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When I got my external 2 TB HDD about 3 weeks back, Fry's had lots
postcards around the HDD areas saying that HDD purchases will be
limited purchases; guess that meant no volume buyers. No idea what
the limit was set at as don't recall it being posted.

However, Fry's website does say for each HDD has a line in red saying
limit of 1 per household. Had thought that was because of a sale!

The 12/25/2011 BestBuy website has the Seagate external 3 TB on
sale for $99, but has to go to the store for it; not available for
shipping.
 
Bob H said:
Actually it was on BBC news in the UK at the time it happened,
Citations?
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and I would have though that news channels in the US would have picked up on
it as well.
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They had a 1TB Barracuda for $55 a few weeks ago, and I almost picked one up
(kicking myself now because I didn't).

Jon
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725

Might last a few days. 1.5T @ $70 but 5900rpm (green shut down
characteristic if you can live w/ that, maybe for storage purposes).
I got mostly Samsung greens while cheap for a docking station but
haven't tried one in a 24/7 setup. This isn't any worse for the wear
on reviews than other halfway decent drives.
 
In message <[email protected]> someone
claiming to be John Doe said:
Greater demand does not keep prices competitive. Given the same
supply, greater demand increases the price.
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Sure, and when prices increase to match demand, it increases the
potential revenue. Once the revenues get high enough, the market will
attract new competitors.
The only time that
increasing demand is beneficial to a consumer is if a product is
in so little demand that no seller can offer it because the
overhead of providing the product outweighs the money they can get
for the product.
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Once demand goes up sufficiently, it makes sense to step up production
to match, and increased production can take into account economies of
scale to allow prices to fall.

It's obviously not a 1:1 linear relationship and not everything follows
this model, but mass-market products tend to follow this model well
enough.
 
In message <[email protected]> someone claiming to be The
Seabat said:
When I bought the storage unit you
could get 1TB hard drives for around $60-70. Now you can't touch one
for less than $100+
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I picked up three 2TB drives for ~$65 each right before the flood, with
the intention of picking up three more once they were installed and I
was able to confirm compatibility -- I just wanted to get drives from
different batches to avoid the odds of simultaneous failures across both
sets.

Today those drives are over $200.

Bleh. Would have been cheaper to go redundant RAID-10 arrays instead of
redundant RAID-0 arrays.

At this point I'm waiting it out until prices come back down then I'll
reevaluate and hopefully get 3TB drives instead.
 
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Nil said:
Still, my impression is that older technology like IDE drives sell
for a premium compared to the new stuff.
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Once supply drops, those few that really need older stuff are often
willing to pay a little extra to get it.

In the case of drives, IDE drives haven't been made for many moons now,
instead manufacturers would just slap a cheapo IDE --> SATA controller
on the drive and price it $5 more.
I've been in search of DDR
memory for an older computer I'm trying to revive. I did find some
used DDR on craigslist and eBay, but it was more expensive than new
technology like DDR3 at the popular online stores.
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There's just no one making it, so those that need it don't usually want
to part with what they've got.
 
DevilsPGD said:
Sure, and when prices increase to match demand, it increases the
potential revenue. Once the revenues get high enough, the market
will attract new competitors.
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More competitors also means more overhead. You're making
assumptions.
Once demand goes up sufficiently, it makes sense to step up
production to match, and increased production can take into
account economies of scale to allow prices to fall.
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Sounds like you're talking about manufacturing techniques, not
demand.
It's obviously not a 1:1 linear relationship and not everything
follows this model, but mass-market products tend to follow this
model well enough.
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The "Economies of Scale" model? The "Manufacturing Technique"
model?

Demand does not keep prices competitive.
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In message <[email protected]> someone claiming to be Paul
My guess is, there is hoarding by speculators, and there'll be a massive
dump of cheap drives later, when the scheme backfires.
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Fingers crossed, that should make for some reasonable prices for those
of us who are waiting :)
 
I didn't notice until your message.

At the end of 2009, I purchased a 320 GB WD SATA drive from newegg for $55.

Current newegg Price: $102.99

Ouch!
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Luckily I have scads of drives laying around relatively unused. Know for
sure that I have 2 x 2TB, 3 x 1.5TB, 8 x 1 TB, 8 x 500G, 6 x 320, 4 x
200. Some are in computers, some are in USB enclosures, many are in a
box on the shelf. There is also an assortment of smaller drives laying
around but I won't count those. Seems I picked a prudent time to
rationalise my backup system. Now I won't need to buy any drives at
inflated prices and can afford to wait until the price drops to
realistic levels again.
 
No, actually, I haven't. I had heard about the Taiwanese floods, but
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Err, that's floods in Thailand, not in Taiwan. Taiwan is a totally
different country.

didn't make the connection to the hard drive shortage. I wonder how
long until things stabilize. I've gotten used to dirt cheap drives.
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1 - 2 years is my guesstimate.
Still, my impression is that older technology like IDE drives sell
for a premium compared to the new stuff. I've been in search of DDR
memory for an older computer I'm trying to revive. I did find some
used DDR on craigslist and eBay, but it was more expensive than new
technology like DDR3 at the popular online stores.
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You can find cheap drives and expensive drives on EBay. Just need to be
patient. If you must have something immediately then expect to pay a
premium.
 
In message <[email protected]> someone claiming to be Krypsis
Err, that's floods in Thailand, not in Taiwan. Taiwan is a totally
different country.



1 - 2 years is my guesstimate.
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That's mine too, but I keep hearing January 2011 quoted. Maybe they can
ramp up production at other facilities in that time, maybe they can
repair their facilities, maybe they're just trying to avoid a
shareholder panic.
 
Holy crap, has anyone noticed the fast rise of high prices for SATA
hard drives? I bought a 4-drive NAS container a couple of months ago
and decided to do some research on the reliability and performance of
various 1 and 1 1/2 TB hard drives. When I bought the storage unit you
could get 1TB hard drives for around $60-70. Now you can't touch one
for less than $100+
What are they trying to do? Make us all switch to SSD's or, worse,
force us to use the freakin' _cloud_ ! This means it will cost me
$400 to $800 to load up my $70 NAS!! This just plain sucks.

OK, end of rant for this season.
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Market forces are at work. 25% less HD made so prices rise.

In case you have missed the news, floods in Thailand a couple of months back
have taken out the rate of HD manufacture. It is a global world.

BTW the flood waters should be just about gone by now. Must be a flat
country
 
Gordon said:
The Seabat <seabat boardermail.com> wrote:

Market forces are at work. 25% less HD made so prices rise.

In case you have missed the news, floods in Thailand a couple of
months back have taken out the rate of HD manufacture.
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Apparently you missed other posts in this thread. No big deal, but
the news (and then some) has been posted here already.
It is a global world.
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Globalism sucks. Slave labor is a bad thing.

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Holy crap, has anyone noticed the fast rise of high prices for SATA
hard drives? I bought a 4-drive NAS container a couple of months ago
and decided to do some research on the reliability and performance of
various 1 and 1 1/2 TB hard drives. When I bought the storage unit you
could get 1TB hard drives for around $60-70. Now you can't touch one
for less than $100+
What are they trying to do? Make us all switch to SSD's or, worse,
force us to use the freakin' _cloud_ ! This means it will cost me
$400 to $800 to load up my $70 NAS!! This just plain sucks.

OK, end of rant for this season.
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It's called flooding in Thailand.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
It's called flooding in Thailand.
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This makes two threads in a row where you didn't bother reading
any of the other replies.

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