[PL] Categories and Subcategories

  • Thread starter Thread starter Susan Bugher
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Susan said:
Yup. :)

IMO the suggestion to create a PDA section now implies a change in the
PL goals as stated in the proposed Pricelessware Selection Procedures.
The goal is to nominate the best *programs*. Filling categories is *not*
a goal.

I probably should have quoted this in my reply:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/PL-Procedures.htm

<q>
Criteria for Selection

The program should be one of the best Freeware programs available. The
Pricelessware List is a compilation of the favorite Freeware programs of
the readers of alt.comp.freeware. The goals of the Pricelessware List do
NOT include selecting programs to fit every subcategory. The programs
picked are not meant to be an exhaustive list of the best available
Freeware, but rather an answer to the often asked "which _____ is best?"
</q>
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And where in that text does it limit the computer type. Just as you want
to add freeware from other OS's does not PDA's full in the above
criteria?
Stan
 
Stan said:
And where in that text does it limit the computer type.
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Hi Stan,

It doesn't and I didn't say there was a such a limit.

The suggestion was "How about a section on PDAs. I'd like to see one
detailing all the different PDA OSes and free software fo those."

The goal is to nominate the best *programs* we can think of. You may
nominate as many programs for PDAs as you like.

but. . . under the present procedures

We *don't* add a "section on PDAs" and then try to find programs to fill
it.

We nominate *programs* and add new categories for them if necessary.

If we want to select the Pricelessware List *primarily* by category we
have to change the Pricelessware *goals*.

Susan
 
Stan Weiss said:
And where in that text does it limit the computer type. Just as you want
to add freeware from other OS's does not PDA's full in the above
criteria?
Stan
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It doesn't. It is my understanding that PDA freeware could indeed be
nominated. If it gets seconded and people vote that it should be
included, then it would be. At least that's how I understand the current
procedure.
 
I was not looking for a PDA section only if there were programs for the
PDA in some of the present categories could they be listed. From your
reply I believe the answer is yes.
Stan
 
Stan said:
I was not looking for a PDA section only if there were programs for the
PDA in some of the present categories could they be listed. From your
reply I believe the answer is yes.
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The answer *is* yes. They don't have to be in a *present* category. It's
the *program* that gets nominated.

Note: There is one prohibited category. Games have not been considered
eligible because they are discussed in alt.comp.freeware.games - I think
I forgot to include that in the proposed PL procedures - will revise the
procedures if necessary to include that bit of info.

Susan
 
_Susan Bugher_, sabato 21/ago/2004:
Note: There is one prohibited category. Games have not been considered
eligible because they are discussed in alt.comp.freeware.games - I think
I forgot to include that in the proposed PL procedures - will revise the
procedures if necessary to include that bit of info.
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Shouldn't we think again about it?
The Criteria for Selection are:

"The program should be one of the best Freeware programs available. The
Pricelessware List is a compilation of the favorite Freeware programs of
the readers of alt.comp.freeware."

and often here we talk and suggest also games, and these games are freeware
programs.
If existed alt.comp.freeware.browsers, couldn't we consider browsers
eligible?

I'd like to have also games in the Pricelessware List.
 
MLC said:
_Susan Bugher_, sabato 21/ago/2004:




Shouldn't we think again about it?
The Criteria for Selection are:

"The program should be one of the best Freeware programs available. The
Pricelessware List is a compilation of the favorite Freeware programs of
the readers of alt.comp.freeware."

and often here we talk and suggest also games, and these games are freeware
programs.
If existed alt.comp.freeware.browsers, couldn't we consider browsers
eligible?

I'd like to have also games in the Pricelessware List.
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I made a misstatement above. I don't think games have ever been allowed
on the PL. . .

ACF.games was created by ACF participants. *When* it was created there
was a consensus in ACF that games should no longer be discussed in this
group - that was some years back.

ACF.games participants have created one list of best games. They may be
interested in creating another - perhaps as a joint project with ACF.

IMO we should explore other possibilities in a joint discussion with
ACF.games participants *before* discussing the addition of games to the
Pricelessware List.

JMHO

Susan
 
_Susan Bugher_, domenica 22/ago/2004:
IMO we should explore other possibilities in a joint discussion with
ACF.games participants *before* discussing the addition of games to the
Pricelessware List.

JMHO
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OK. I haven't subscribed yet to acf.games, I'll do it.
If someone else is interested he/she/we could explore this possibility... :)
 
MLC said:
_Susan Bugher_, domenica 22/ago/2004:




OK. I haven't subscribed yet to acf.games, I'll do it.
If someone else is interested he/she/we could explore this possibility... :)
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I read it (don't remember if I've ever posted). I'll watch for your post.

FWIW - quite a few ACF participants post in ACF.games too.

Susan
 
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INTERNET Remote Desktop Access
INTERNET Server: Email and Newsgroup
INTERNET Telnet: Client
INTERNET Weather Reporting: Client
INTERNET Web Site Screen Capture

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MISCELLANEOUS Astronomy
MISCELLANEOUS Musician Tool
MISCELLANEOUS Religion
MISCELLANEOUS Automation: Dialog Dismissal
MISCELLANEOUS Clipboard Extender

MULTIMEDIA Audio-Video: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Encoders-Decoders
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Karaoke
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MULTIMEDIA Audio: MP3 ID3 Editing
MULTIMEDIA Audio: MP3 Normalization
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Player
MULTIMEDIA CD Ripper: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Multimedia: Player

ORGANIZERS Calendar
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: File and Directory
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: Media
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: Software
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: System
ORGANIZERS Notes
ORGANIZERS Notes and Graphics
ORGANIZERS Notes and Reminder

PROGRAMMING Batch Files
PROGRAMMING Editor: Hex
PROGRAMMING Editor: Install/Setup
PROGRAMMING Editor: Multi-Language
PROGRAMMING Editor: Resource
PROGRAMMING Macros
PROGRAMMING Programming Languages

SECURITY Anti-Virus
SECURITY Encryption
SECURITY Firewall
SECURITY Monitor: Registry/Directory/File
SECURITY Monitor: Scripting
SECURITY TCP/IP Monitoring
SECURITY Password Manager
SECURITY Password Viewer
SECURITY Anti-Spyware
SECURITY Security patch

SYSTEM UTILITIES Backup: Drivers
SYSTEM UTILITIES Boot and Partition Manager
SYSTEM UTILITIES Boot Manager
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cleaner: Backup And Remove DLLs
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cleaner: Files and Registry
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cpu Cooler
SYSTEM UTILITIES Format Diskettes
SYSTEM UTILITIES Install-Uninstall Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Memory Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Misc: Unix For Windows
SYSTEM UTILITIES Module Dependency
SYSTEM UTILITIES Screen Resolution
SYSTEM UTILITIES Partition Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Memory
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Motherboard
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Process
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Resources
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Backup
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Cleaner
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Editor
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Monitoring
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Search
SYSTEM UTILITIES Start-Up Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES System Tweaker
SYSTEM UTILITIES Time Synchronizer

TEXT Character Map
TEXT Compare Text In Files
TEXT Convert: HTML To Text
TEXT Convert: OCR
TEXT Convert: Text To PDF
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TEXT Notepad Editors
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-Garrett
 
Garrett said:
Some of this may be of use, or not. I still think this is too
complicated, but I feel that some of these would place some things in
areas where they are more likely to be found.
Click to expand...

Hi Garrett,

I'm not in favor of adding a 13th Category page called MISCELLANEOUS. I
think your proposed revisions will get more response from the group if
you show the *changes*. IOW if you include the PL2004 Categories after
your proposed categories.
BUSINESS Calculator
BUSINESS Character Macro
BUSINESS Converter: Units
BUSINESS Desk Top Publishing
BUSINESS Dictionary
BUSINESS Graph Paper Printer
BUSINESS Office Suite
BUSINESS Scheduler
BUSINESS Spell Checker
BUSINESS Spreadsheet
BUSINESS Word Processor

DESKTOP Application Launcher
DESKTOP Application Launcher: Multipurpose
DESKTOP Clock: Customizer
DESKTOP Clock: Mulitple Time Zone
DESKTOP Desktop Customizer
DESKTOP Mouse Tool
DESKTOP Window Tool

FILE UTILITIES CD Burning
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Access
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Customizer
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Listing
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Path Copy
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Shortcuts
FILE UTILITIES Directory/Folder: Structure Copy
FILE UTILITIES Disk Space Reporting
FILE UTILITIES File Compression: Unzip
FILE UTILITIES File Compression: Zip-Unzip
FILE UTILITIES File Manager: Browser
FILE UTILITIES File Manager: Tools
FILE UTILITIES Files: Backup
FILE UTILITIES Files: Cleaner
FILE UTILITIES Files: Removal
FILE UTILITIES Files: Renamer
FILE UTILITIES Files: Splitter
FILE UTILITIES Files: Undelete
FILE UTILITIES Files: Validate/Undelete
FILE UTILITIES Long File Names Tool
FILE UTILITIES Search
FILE UTILITIES Search And Replace

GRAPHICS Color Picker
GRAPHICS Diagram And Chart Drawing Tool
GRAPHICS Editor: 3D
GRAPHICS Editor: Fractals
GRAPHICS Editor: Icons
GRAPHICS Editor: Photo-Paint
GRAPHICS Editor: Vector Graphics
GRAPHICS Icon Extractor
GRAPHICS Image Cataloguer
GRAPHICS Screen Capture
GRAPHICS Screen Ruler
GRAPHICS Screensaver Maker
GRAPHICS Viewer: Image Optimizer
GRAPHICS Viewer: Multipurpose
GRAPHICS Watermark Tool

INTERNET Bookmarks/Favorites: Convert To HTML
INTERNET Bookmarks/Favorites: Management
INTERNET Bookmarks/Favorites: Verification
INTERNET Browser, Web: Addon Tools
INTERNET Browser, Web: Client
INTERNET Browser, Web: MSIE Cleaner
INTERNET Browser, Web: MSIE Removal
INTERNET Browser, Web: MSIE Shell
INTERNET Browser, Web: MSIE Tweaking
INTERNET Browser, Web: Popup Blocking
INTERNET Browser, Web: Search Toolbar
INTERNET Browser, Web: Tool
INTERNET Browser: Form Filler
INTERNET Clipboard tool: URL Tool
INTERNET Content Filter
INTERNET Cookie Manager
INTERNET Dial-Up Networking Utilities
INTERNET Download Manager
INTERNET Download Web Sites
INTERNET Email and Newsgroup: Client
INTERNET Email: Checking
INTERNET Email: Client
INTERNET Email: Outlook Express Tool
INTERNET Email: Outlook Tool
INTERNET Email: Quote Tool
INTERNET Email: Spam Tool
INTERNET FTP: Client
INTERNET Instant Message: Multiple Protocal Client
INTERNET Network Tool
INTERNET Newsreader: Binary Download Client
INTERNET Newsreader: Client
INTERNET Peer To Peer File Sharing
INTERNET Remote Desktop Access
INTERNET Server: Email and Newsgroup
INTERNET Telnet: Client
INTERNET Weather Reporting: Client
INTERNET Web Site Screen Capture

MISCELLANEOUS Alternate Operating System
MISCELLANEOUS Astronomy
MISCELLANEOUS Musician Tool
MISCELLANEOUS Religion
MISCELLANEOUS Automation: Dialog Dismissal
MISCELLANEOUS Clipboard Extender

MULTIMEDIA Audio-Video: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Encoders-Decoders
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Karaoke
MULTIMEDIA Audio: MP3 Encoder
MULTIMEDIA Audio: MP3 ID3 Editing
MULTIMEDIA Audio: MP3 Normalization
MULTIMEDIA Audio: Player
MULTIMEDIA CD Ripper: Editor
MULTIMEDIA Multimedia: Player

ORGANIZERS Calendar
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: File and Directory
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: Media
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: Software
ORGANIZERS Cataloger: System
ORGANIZERS Notes
ORGANIZERS Notes and Graphics
ORGANIZERS Notes and Reminder

PROGRAMMING Batch Files
PROGRAMMING Editor: Hex
PROGRAMMING Editor: Install/Setup
PROGRAMMING Editor: Multi-Language
PROGRAMMING Editor: Resource
PROGRAMMING Macros
PROGRAMMING Programming Languages

SECURITY Anti-Virus
SECURITY Encryption
SECURITY Firewall
SECURITY Monitor: Registry/Directory/File
SECURITY Monitor: Scripting
SECURITY TCP/IP Monitoring
SECURITY Password Manager
SECURITY Password Viewer
SECURITY Anti-Spyware
SECURITY Security patch

SYSTEM UTILITIES Backup: Drivers
SYSTEM UTILITIES Boot and Partition Manager
SYSTEM UTILITIES Boot Manager
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cleaner: Backup And Remove DLLs
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cleaner: Files and Registry
SYSTEM UTILITIES Cpu Cooler
SYSTEM UTILITIES Format Diskettes
SYSTEM UTILITIES Install-Uninstall Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Memory Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Misc: Unix For Windows
SYSTEM UTILITIES Module Dependency
SYSTEM UTILITIES Screen Resolution
SYSTEM UTILITIES Partition Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Memory
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Motherboard
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Process
SYSTEM UTILITIES Monitor: Resources
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Backup
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Cleaner
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Editor
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Monitoring
SYSTEM UTILITIES Registry: Search
SYSTEM UTILITIES Start-Up Tool
SYSTEM UTILITIES System Tweaker
SYSTEM UTILITIES Time Synchronizer

TEXT Character Map
TEXT Compare Text In Files
TEXT Convert: HTML To Text
TEXT Convert: OCR
TEXT Convert: Text To PDF
TEXT Convert: Text To Speech
TEXT Notepad Editors
TEXT Font Manager

WEB DEVELOPMENT Text To HTML
WEB DEVELOPMENT Editor: HTML Source Code
WEB DEVELOPMENT Editor: HTML WYSIWYG
WEB DEVELOPMENT Generate: Calendar
WEB DEVELOPMENT Generate: File List
WEB DEVELOPMENT Generate: Image Gallery
WEB DEVELOPMENT Generate: Index Maker
WEB DEVELOPMENT Graphics: 3D Font Image
WEB DEVELOPMENT Graphics: Button and Tile Generation
WEB DEVELOPMENT Graphics: GIF Animation
WEB DEVELOPMENT Graphics: JPG Cleaner
WEB DEVELOPMENT Links: Check/Validate


-Garrett
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Susan
 
Susan Bugher - 27.08.2004 17:09 :
Hi Garrett,

I'm not in favor of adding a 13th Category page called MISCELLANEOUS. I
think your proposed revisions will get more response from the group if
you show the *changes*. IOW if you include the PL2004 Categories after
your proposed categories.
Click to expand...

[about 200 list quoting lines snipped}

Hi Susan,

with respect, is it really necessary fully quoting Garrets long list
again? Perhaps others quotes the whole list in an answer to your posting
again and again and so on.
If someone needs/wants to see this list, one can/should read it back in
the thread, imo.

Nice weekend!
 
Peter said:
Susan Bugher - 27.08.2004 17:09 :
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Hi Susan,

with respect, is it really necessary fully quoting Garrets long list
again? Perhaps others quotes the whole list in an answer to your posting
again and again and so on.
If someone needs/wants to see this list, one can/should read it back in
the thread, imo.
Click to expand...

Humble apologies. What *was* I thinking? :(

Taking my own advice I've uploaded a page that shows *which* PL2004
subcategories/ programs are moving. See:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2005/PL2005ProgramIndex.php

If you want to see where the apps were before compare that page and the
PL2004 page:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/PL2004ProgramIndex.php

Most of the PL2005 links work - ATM PL2005 pages show PL2004 programs. . .

Susan
 
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