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Susan Bugher

Some "kind soul" wiped out the acf wiki.

I recreated the main page and the PricelesswareCd page. Can you
*restore* the other pages in the wiki? IOW - is there an easy way to
undo the damage?

Susan
 
Odd...and you just couldn't believe me when I told you about people from
here trying to hack my ftp server in the folders I had the CD files in. And
no, I've never even been to the wiki.
 
Some "kind soul" wiped out the acf wiki.

A "kind soul" who uses an ISP used by only one a.c.f poster over the
last couple of months.
I recreated the main page and the PricelesswareCd page. Can you
*restore* the other pages in the wiki? IOW - is there an easy way to
undo the damage?

The main page and the cd page have been blanked again, by the same person.
All the other pages seem to be intact.

It's possible to restore the old content, which is retained for a while,
but also possible (and likely) that the same person will reblank them.

<http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=history&id=AcfWiki>

<http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=history&id=PricelesswareCd>
 
Odd...and you just couldn't believe me when I told you about people from
here trying to hack my ftp server in the folders I had the CD files in.

Odd. . . I don't recall ever saying anything of the sort. . .

Perhaps you can tell me if this miscreant that's wiping out the ACF wiki
is an ACF participant:

46.91.252.64.snet.net


Susan
 
and has just done it again. . .

Is this the Achilles heel of the wiki? Is it possible to record the
IP address of the offender, as is done on some blog-sites? Or is that
just the nazi in me coming out?
 
46.91.252.64.snet.net

Ah, I see my question's been answered. Perhaps I should learn to read
to the bottom of the thread :-)

If some kind soul will just pass me the offender's details I'll be on
my way with my set of rusty Victorian surgical instruments to
administer a mild rebuke.
 
Semolina said:
Is this the Achilles heel of the wiki?

Yep. When it was first set up, somebody kept vandalising it.
Is it possible to record the
IP address of the offender, as is done on some blog-sites? Or is that
just the nazi in me coming out?

IIRC it is possible to block IPs. Not much good with a dynamic vandal
though...
Spite is an interesting emotion.
 
»Q« said:
A "kind soul" who uses an ISP used by only one a.c.f poster over the
last couple of months.

That would seem to narrow the field of likely suspects down a bit. ;)
It's possible to restore the old content, which is retained for a while,
but also possible (and likely) that the same person will reblank them.

I came to the same conclusion. FWIW we've been down this path before.
The wiki is a nice resource for the group. . . it's a shame someone
likes to destroy it every now and then. . .

Susan
 
Some "kind soul" wiped out the acf wiki.

I recreated the main page and the PricelesswareCd page. Can you
*restore* the other pages in the wiki? IOW - is there an easy way to
undo the damage?

Susan

Mark Carter:
Can the pages be backed up a couple of times a day?
WinHTTrack with a script. Or Khttrack with cron if you run Linux.
Or since I'm full of advice, an automatic back-up when it detects
access before someone changes the page? Such as: 'Please wait one moment
while the system does an automatic back-up'.
 
I wouldn't have any idea.

Susan Bugher said:
Odd. . . I don't recall ever saying anything of the sort. . .

Perhaps you can tell me if this miscreant that's wiping out the ACF wiki
is an ACF participant:

46.91.252.64.snet.net


Susan
 
Name begins with 'T'?

Yeah, at least the name he uses most often.

Since no one else here is using that ISP, I guess it would be safe
for Mark to block it.

ISTR that 'T' had another service provider to connect with, and he
switched between the two. If Mark blocks *.snet.net, I guess we'll
see. Or if the snet people pull the plug on his asdl for abusing
it.
 
Yeah, at least the name he uses most often.

I've noticed no morphs. But then I haven't looked. But on my limited
database here of 12,000 posts, there is only one Southwestern Bell
poster. And last July he had a snet.net MID
Since no one else here is using that ISP, I guess it would be safe
for Mark to block it.

Agreed. But then, if I were driven by the same odd level of spite and
bitterness I would simply open other accounts in order to continue to
do the wreck thing.
ISTR that 'T' had another service provider to connect with, and he
switched between the two. If Mark blocks *.snet.net, I guess we'll
see. Or if the snet people pull the plug on his asdl for abusing
it.

T fits the psychological profile to my mind. I have not checked as to
his other providers atm.
I wonder if a plug can be pulled for abuse of wiki? Or if allowing
abuse is in the nature of wiki? Still, we will see.

Very strange to see those who are so resistant to change that they
will attempt to destroy that which they profess to love rather than
see it change.

This type of rubbish is usually reserved for psycho-stalker B movies.
 
Sorry. I'm lost. Who's 'T'?

Thanks go to Susan for pointing out that some script kiddie is
vandalising the site. I usually only scan down the list of posts to ACF,
which explains why it's taken me so long to notice a message addressed
to me.

I've restored the AcfWiki page, although presumably it will be quickly
vandalised again. I had hoped that the level of maturity of wiki editors
was sufficiently high that I wouldn't have to start mucking about with
backup scripts, IP blocking, and all the rest of it. Maybe if we wait a
while the miscreant will get bored and do something more challenging.

Maybe the vandal is someone that I pissed off in the past; I don't know.
It happens that on occasions I'm not averse to telling people to go
practise a bit of "self love", shall we say.
Agreed. But then, if I were driven by the same odd level of spite and
bitterness I would simply open other accounts in order to continue to
do the wreck thing.

Personally, I don't know if the vandal has anything against me
personally, is against the ACF, or is just a plain tit. There are plenty
of tits in the world.
 
FossilButt said:
Odd...and you just couldn't believe me when I told you about people from
here trying to hack my ftp server in the folders I had the CD files in.

Do you run your own server, or use a hosting service?

The reason I ask is that where I work, we were thinking of setting up
internet applications for clients. I'm a programmer rather than system
administrator, so my main worry is not so much the complexity of
building an application, but about how to secure the server.
 
Mark Carter said:
Do you run your own server, or use a hosting service?

We used to run our own servers...web, ftp, email, chat, news etc. We
haven't since moving to an area which only has dial-up. We're renting
hosting from a service which used to be good but seems to have really gone
downhill lately. We use their email server and have mail bouncing on a
weekly basis. We're currently in search of another hosting
company...someplace we can transfer our domain to. Once we are able to get
another always-on connection we'll be running our servers again.
The reason I ask is that where I work, we were thinking of setting up
internet applications for clients. I'm a programmer rather than system
administrator, so my main worry is not so much the complexity of
building an application, but about how to secure the server.

The first thing you want to do is find a reliable firewall. Then google for
exploits for firewalls. If you find exploits, continue to search for the
remedies. Keep a chart and select the firewall which is the lesser of n
evils. Don't be afraid to check places like sourceforge and
planet-source-code for some examples.

Since you like to program, I'd suggest you get a few example programs then
create your own firewall (it's not nearly as difficult as some people might
think). Build your own filtering system so that you can filter on more than
just IP or IP range. To give you an example, do like I did...set the
filtering up to filter on situations...like if someone were to attempt to
run a particular command or run a number of commands during a short span of
time alerting you to the fact that they are actually running a script of
commands. Of course there's more to securing a site than the little I
mentioned here, but it should get you started.
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:39:51 +0000, Mark Carter

Thanks go to Susan for pointing out that some script kiddie is
vandalising the site.

Maybe the vandal is someone that I pissed off in the past

< snip >

Perhaps. But I would think it might be more likely to be someone not
liking Susan. She certainly created a great many enemies when she
used her bully (girl) tactics to try and take the Pricelessware site
away from Genna.

Though, if you are supporting Susan, then perhaps the deleter sees
you as a target as well ?
 
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