Picture vs. Monitor size

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Brian

I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen. Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor and still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am running
windows vista home prem.
 
Brian said:
I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have
wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the
helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen.
Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor and
still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am running
windows vista home prem.
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I don't understand why anybody would want to maximise their browser on a
large screen. I always have them as normal windows, so I can still have
other apps alongside, on the same monitor.

Web designers design the pages to be optimally displayed at 1024 pixels
wide. It used to be 800 not long ago. Later on in time, it will increase
again, but not until the majority of people are still viewing with smaller
screens, like laptops.

ss.
 
Synapse Syndrome said:
I don't understand why anybody would want to maximise their browser on a
large screen. I always have them as normal windows, so I can still have
other apps alongside, on the same monitor.

Web designers design the pages to be optimally displayed at 1024 pixels
wide. It used to be 800 not long ago. Later on in time, it will increase
again, but not until the majority of people are still viewing with smaller
screens, like laptops.
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This information is relevant:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp


Even as people move to bigger screens and higher resolutions, designers will
have to learn how to cater for people who maximise their browsers, as
reading text right across the screen is very unergonomic, when they are
using liquid layouts.

ss.
 
For instance, when I go to the local news papers web site the site only uses
half of the screen and the words are somewhat hard to read.
 
Brian said:
For instance, when I go to the local news papers web site the site only
uses
half of the screen and the words are somewhat hard to read.
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Maybe you should try the Opera browser, which has a better way of zooming in
than IE7 does.

http://www.opera.com/

ss.
 
What is your zoom level and/or text size set at?

Brian said:
For instance, when I go to the local news papers web site the site only
uses
half of the screen and the words are somewhat hard to read.
Click to expand...
 
All that seems to do is make the text more blurry. Is there not a place you
can go to make the site automatically fit the screen? Thanks for your help.

Bob said:
Hi Brian,

Reduce the monitor resolution.
Right click Desktop. Choose Personalize then Display Settings.
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Brian said:
I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have
wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the
helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen.
Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor and
still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am running
windows vista home prem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Reducing resolution isn't a good idea if it's an LCD monitor. Better to
right-click on the background, go to "personalize", click on "adjust font
size" at the upper left. Reducing resolution from the monitor's optimum will
usually make the images fuzzier, and it looks like Brian wants things to be
more legible.

LesleyO

Bob said:
Hi Brian,

Reduce the monitor resolution.
Right click Desktop. Choose Personalize then Display Settings.
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Brian said:
I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have
wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the
helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen.
Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor and
still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am running
windows vista home prem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
You do realise that web pages are designed for the 4/3 format and not 16/9.
If you want your screen stretched you won't be able to read the text. Use
the rest of the screen for other windows.
 
It all depends on the website designers. There is nothing you can do on your
end.

If the website is built to "maximize to 100%" then it will widen
automatically.

However, most designers design using CSS. Because of the nature of CSS it is
usually required that you set your screen size in pixels.

Now most Corporate web designers STILL design for 800x600. Personally I
don't but I do 1024x768.

Most people don't have wide screens so I would rather the people have bars
on the sides than have to scroll left and right to see all the text.

Cheers,
Lara
 
lforbes said:
It all depends on the website designers. There is nothing you can do on
your
end.

If the website is built to "maximize to 100%" then it will widen
automatically.
Click to expand...

Or rather, if there are no constraints set, like a containing div, float or
table.

However, most designers design using CSS. Because of the nature of CSS it
is
usually required that you set your screen size in pixels.
Click to expand...

Not really. You can make liquid layouts using CSS just like freeflowing
plain HTML.

Now most Corporate web designers STILL design for 800x600. Personally I
don't but I do 1024x768.
Click to expand...

I've noticed a big shift to 1024px over the last year. All the big
newspaper sites, the BBC site, etc.. I think it has finally become the
standard, but there are a lot of sites that are still made for 800px. They
seem to be the sort of sites laid out in Photoshop and 'sliced', for some
reason.


ss.
 
Well I hate to ask this, but if you are having trouble reading the screen
under those circumstances, have you considered getting reading glasses to
use at the computer, if you don't already wear glasses? No offence meant,
but I can see 20/20 at a distance, but these days need what my
ophthalmologist calls "cheaters" (half-glasses from the drugstore) to read
small print and work comfortably at the computer.

Just a thought.... It happens to most of us, sooner or later!

LesleyO
 
Brian

The way the web page is coded is what determines how it will display. The
website designer can configure the website any way they wish. There isn't
much you can do about this.

Most websites can capture information about visitors to their websites,
including the screen resolution the visitors are using. They will configure
the website to please the majority of the visitors.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


Brian said:
All that seems to do is make the text more blurry. Is there not a place
you
can go to make the site automatically fit the screen? Thanks for your
help.

Bob said:
Hi Brian,

Reduce the monitor resolution.
Right click Desktop. Choose Personalize then Display Settings.
-------
*Report back, please*
[When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to
so
that others may learn and benefit from the issue]

[How to ask a question]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm


Brian said:
I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have
wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the
helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen.
Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor and
still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am
running
windows vista home prem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Tools>Internet Options>General>Accessibility
Ignore colors specified on Web pages

Ignore font styles specified on Web pages

Ignore font sizes specified on Web pages


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Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
Brian

The way the web page is coded is what determines how it will display. The
website designer can configure the website any way they wish. There isn't
much you can do about this.

Most websites can capture information about visitors to their websites,
including the screen resolution the visitors are using. They will
configure the website to please the majority of the visitors.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


Brian said:
All that seems to do is make the text more blurry. Is there not a place
you
can go to make the site automatically fit the screen? Thanks for your
help.

Bob said:
Hi Brian,

Reduce the monitor resolution.
Right click Desktop. Choose Personalize then Display Settings.
-------
*Report back, please*
[When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying
to so
that others may learn and benefit from the issue]

[How to ask a question]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm


I have a 21 inch widescreen monitor. When I go to msn homepage I have
wasted
space on both sides. I tried to select a larger size of text and the
helped
some, but still did not take the picture to both sides of the screen.
Also
on other pages, the problem is even worse. I have this big monitor
and
still
am seeing a narrow picture. Can you help a computer dummy? I am
running
windows vista home prem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Thanks to all

Synapse Syndrome said:
Or rather, if there are no constraints set, like a containing div, float or
table.



Not really. You can make liquid layouts using CSS just like freeflowing
plain HTML.



I've noticed a big shift to 1024px over the last year. All the big
newspaper sites, the BBC site, etc.. I think it has finally become the
standard, but there are a lot of sites that are still made for 800px. They
seem to be the sort of sites laid out in Photoshop and 'sliced', for some
reason.


ss.
Click to expand...
 
I'm sure none of you guys that gave Brian advice are going to like this,
especially you MVP's, because I know very little about computers, but what
your saying about the web being the problem is wrong. I have a 28"
widescreen monitor and up untill it worked perfectly. I had a HP I bought in
2001 and this monitor I bought 6 months ago. When I went on the internet,
the image fit the screen fine. A week ago I bought a new computer and now I
have the same problem as Brian. So either the entire internet got together
and changed all their code the same day I bought a new computer, or this is a
Vista problem. There is something check somewhere in this computer that is
making it look the way it does. I've been through all the Resolution
settings and increasing the font makes things bigger, but it still doesnt fit
and it overlaps half the font. If there is someone reading this that
actually knows about this problem and how to fix it, please post it so we can
fix it. Or post the best way to downgrade back to XP so we wont have this
problem.
 
Kevin said:
I'm sure none of you guys that gave Brian advice are going to like this,
especially you MVP's, because I know very little about computers, but what
your saying about the web being the problem is wrong. I have a 28"
widescreen monitor and up untill it worked perfectly. I had a HP I bought
in
2001 and this monitor I bought 6 months ago. When I went on the internet,
the image fit the screen fine. A week ago I bought a new computer and now
I
have the same problem as Brian. So either the entire internet got
together
and changed all their code the same day I bought a new computer, or this
is a
Vista problem. There is something check somewhere in this computer that
is
making it look the way it does. I've been through all the Resolution
settings and increasing the font makes things bigger, but it still doesnt
fit
and it overlaps half the font. If there is someone reading this that
actually knows about this problem and how to fix it, please post it so we
can
fix it. Or post the best way to downgrade back to XP so we wont have this
problem.
Click to expand...


I forgot to take notes last week. What problem did/does Brian have exactly?



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Mike said:
I forgot to take notes last week. What problem did/does Brian have
exactly?
Click to expand...


Are we saying the resolution cannot be made to fit the screen OR are we
saying that "Web Pages" do not fill the whole display... which most
won't unless we go to something like 800 X 600.

My guess is that compared against a 1991 model with probably a cheap
graphics card on board Vista has revealed a whole load of screen real
estate that wasn't there before.

(Hence the reference to "The Whole Internet" having changed.
 
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