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John Doe
John Weiss said:
Provide some citations.
But seriously. You should suspect something's wrong when told your
system should use 20% of your power supply rating. That's just
silly.
Provide some citations.
But seriously. You should suspect something's wrong when told your
system should use 20% of your power supply rating. That's just
silly.
J
John Weiss
John Doe said:
The ATX 12V Design Guide calls 20% a light load and 50% a typical load:
http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/ATX12V_PSDG_2_2_public_br2.pdf
Silent PC Review has a rather extensive discussion, and includes examples of a
66% load as a "good match":
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page1.html
PC Power & Cooling says, "For overall power supply wattage, add the requirement
for each device in your system, then multiply by 1.5." (which equates to a 66%
load at peak usage, or 53% load at a more typical 80% of peak total usage).
They continue, "Furthermore, power supplies are more efficient and reliable when
loaded to 30% - 70% of maximum capacity.":
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/power_usage/
FWIW, using various on-line PSU calculators, I got recommendations ranging from
330 to 820 watts for my system...
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John Brown
===============Dave said:
Dave, ref the Antec 650...any idea of the quietness or lack of it...and how
it would compare with my existing Antec 480...can't find any info about
this.
Thanks.
R
Robin Bignall
I've got an Antec Truepower TP3-650 in an Antec P180 case. Totally
silent as far as I'm concerned. In true Antec style I let the PSU
control its own fan and the two case fans; the HDD fan is set to
medium and the M / B controls the CPU and chipset fans.
J
John Doe
John Weiss said:
Thanks. See Table 9 "Loading Table". The 400 W power supply at full
load equals 396 W.
Dell's XPS 630 gaming system uses a "750 W" power supply. But they are
supporting every possible addition like dual (SLI) video cards.
In any case, an oversized power supply can't hurt. Another power supply
also enables a hand-me-down computer.
Good luck and have fun.
J
John Brown
I've got an Antec Truepower TP3-650 in an Antec P180 case. Totally
silent as far as I'm concerned. In true Antec style I let the PSU
control its own fan and the two case fans; the HDD fan is set to
medium and the M / B controls the CPU and chipset fans.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England
============
Robin - Q- Do you consider the 650 Truepower a better option than the
Earthwatts of same size?
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Robin Bignall
[Antec PSUs]
John, I have no idea. I just looked at the specs and it seems that
the Earthwatts is a "greener" supply, but as to the superiority of one
over the other, one of the experts here in alt.c.h.pc-homebuilt will
certainly be able to give you advice. I calculated my PSU to need
500w, so I went for the next more powerful Antec at 650w and the
Truepower was the first I came to.
John, I have no idea. I just looked at the specs and it seems that
the Earthwatts is a "greener" supply, but as to the superiority of one
over the other, one of the experts here in alt.c.h.pc-homebuilt will
certainly be able to give you advice. I calculated my PSU to need
500w, so I went for the next more powerful Antec at 650w and the
Truepower was the first I came to.
D
Dave
John Brown said:
Well, one review I found (in a quick search) has the Earthwatts 650W (the
newer Delta made version) as quiet. Don't know how it would compare to your
existing one though. -Dave
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=110
J
John Brown
======Dave said:
OK, Thanks guys. J
G
Geek Dad
Is 5 years the standard? heheh it's always 5 years for me it seems and
whenever there's a thread like this it always seems to be the same
timeframe.
=)
I recommend the ASUS P5Q Pro.
Definitely. Good choice. Get Visiontek's - comes with lifetime
warranty.
2 GB is plenty, but I would buy Vista Home Premium 64-bit OEM For $100
and then 2x2GB's of RAM since it's really cheap right now.
I prefer Seagate Barracuda 7200.xx
Yup, Vista Home Premium 64-bit + 4GB's of RAM is sweet bliss.
Corsair 520HX PSU.
Acrtic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro over the stock HSF that comes with the
CPU for added longevity and in case you ever want to overclock when
the system gets older (thus the other reason for the ASUS P5Q Pro).
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Geek Dad
Here, here! Finally, Windows does what it should - doesn't get in the
way. It's an afterthought. No more reinstalling every 3 months. No
more BSOD's. No more sluggishness (at least not with 4GB's RAM and
3ghz CPU!).
I suggest Corsair 520HX or higher. But on Newegg.com allthe Corsair's
(500+ watts that is) are all around $100 or less after MIR. And
Corsair is one of the best.
G
Geek Dad
I disagree. I don't *need* Vista 64-bit, but I like having all 4GB's
of RAM being used by Vista.
OP says money is not an issue.
IMO, yes.
Again, yes.
Because Vista is the better OS. And can be had for only $100 if you
buy the OEM version.
G
Geek Dad
I think there are equally a large number of people who DO reboot, and
I'm one of them.
You have the possibility, when something serious happens a screen pops
up and asks how you want to reboot. Normall, safe mode, etc.
You don't have to replace any Apps. XP was a monster when it came to
this. Vista is your best friend in this regard.
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John Doe
Geek Dad said:
I couldn't agree more with that.
Sounds like Windows XP.
In many cases, that would be a waste of money, but it least it's not
hazardous advice, if the vast majority of system owners have money
to burn and don't mind a tiny decrease in energy efficiency.
J
JR Weiss
Geek Dad said:
However, OP may not know if all his hardware and software is supported in Vista
(or XP) 64. Driver and application support still is a big issue with the 64-bit
OS...
That is, if they run at all...
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JR Weiss
You are VERY misinformed! There are NUMEROUS reports of applications and
utilities not working on Vista, or requiring an "upgrade" to run on Vista.
Moving from Win9x to XP was a MAJOR step for most home users. it was a move
from a 32-bit overlay on 16-bit DOS, to a true 32-bit OS. Those of us who
evolved to XP from NT and Win2K didn't have anywhere near the application
compatibility problem, because the apps we chose already, for the most part,
worked on XP. However, the evolution of all the hotfixes and service packs for
XP tended to "break" a lot of older apps, so we upgraded as the need arose. I'm
STILL trying to fix macros and other stuff in Word and Excel from when I was
forced to upgrade from Office 2000 to Office 2003 just 2 years ago, after
several years running fine on XP.
In contrast, Vista is another 32-bit OS, and there should be virtually NO
incompatibilities with apps that run on the latest evolution of XP. Since MS
had already introduced the alleged universal hardware driver model with XP,
there should have been few, if any, driver conflicts, either. I will admit the
exceptions for games and other ill-behaved apps that try to access hardware
directly, because Vista does offer more protection in that regard.
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Dave
I find it works great with a 2.3GHz single core CPU and 2GB of RAM.
Corsair is good. I'd probably still go for a 650 or so. -Dave
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Geek Dad
I find it works great with a 2.3GHz single core CPU and 2GB of RAM.
Oh yeah before I upgraded I was running Vista 32-bit on a 2.1ghz
(E6420) PC with 2GB of RAM also. Ran fine then. Just runs better now
being 64-bits and 4GB's RAM =)
Yeah 650 is good =) I just have 1 HDD, 1 DVD, HD 4850 and E8400, 4GB's
of RAM so 520 is just right for me.
G
Geek Dad
Sources please?
I built a rig with 64-bit in July 2007. On that rig there was
Photoshop, eventually Lightroom too, as well as MS Office, Eset
antivirus suite... audio studio software (Ableton Live!, Propellerhead
Reason)... what else... I can't remember. I don't recall any apps that
gave me trouble.
There are plenty of people that have been running 64-bit that didn't
have any problems like me.
So I'm not misinformed.
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Geek Dad
No, you're wrong. What drivers and applications please?
Sure, right. OK.