OT: General Opinion Question....

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A person who can succeed wildly by being creative and inventive
(rather than predatory). Is it THAT hard to figure?
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No, I guess not, but it's a stretch. Unlike ol' Bill, someone
working solely with creativity and inventiveness isn't likely to
amass enough money to fund a small nation.

Nevertheless, it was a noble thing you and the other posters did by
offering motivation and encouragement to the OP.

Max
 
Max said:
No, I guess not, but it's a stretch. Unlike ol' Bill, someone
working solely with creativity and inventiveness isn't likely to
amass enough money to fund a small nation.

Nevertheless, it was a noble thing you and the other posters did by
offering motivation and encouragement to the OP.
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I'm sure I could have used a better example.
 
Ben Cooper said:
Yeah, why bother doing anything charitable if you're rich?
Angry and bitter people automatically assume that if you're
rich you can't possibly be interested in anything other than
making money.
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A Philanthropist
knowing the truth of their righteous intent
would not care.
 
In Mister Charlie posted:
Yes. And no.

There will always be a call for ingenuity and creativeness in any
endeavor. There will never be another Beatles (for example) but
someone else will come along with their own thing and be as big.

The trick I would think is trying to find an underserved niche and
excel in that. And if it's something you have an interest in even
better.

I bet you could be the next Bill Gates if you wanted (except nicer).
:)
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No, you'd loose the bet, you assume he is in a capitalistic intensive
country.
For as long as Shashay remains under socialism in a country like
Germany under the influence of the trade practices of the EU, there
ain't a chance in h--- he ever can be as successful as a MS founder.

DanlK, FYI Services
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FYIS.org/estore said:
In Mister Charlie posted:

No, you'd loose the bet, you assume he is in a capitalistic intensive
country.
For as long as Shashay remains under socialism in a country like
Germany under the influence of the trade practices of the EU, there
ain't a chance in h--- he ever can be as successful as a MS founder.
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Just as well...he may not want to anyway. Success isn't always measured
in money. I chose a piss poor (but instantly recognizable) example.
 
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:55:55 -0700, "Ben Cooper"

Yeah, why bother doing anything charitable if you're rich?
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Tax breaks ? Image ? Conscience ? To gain influence ?

With regards to the first. The millionaire who gives away a million
dollars would otherwise have probably given half of it to the tax
department. So the million isn't quite as generous as one may
originally have thought.

The rich often like to "buy friends". Giving to charities often
provides that return.

Some rich people who have achieved their wealth by underhanded
means give money away to ease their conscience. It helps them to
pretend that what they have done/are doing is "okay".

The rich like to "protect" themselves from anyone who may challenge
them in business/privately/legally. Giving to charities helps
influence the more gullible that they care about others (instead of it
being a totally "commercial" exercise). It helps ensure that they get
help from all layers of society if they need it.
 
Terry said:
A Philanthropist
knowing the truth of their righteous intent
would not care.
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I don't agree with that statement at all, but you are
certainly entitled to your opinion.
 
John said:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:55:55 -0700, "Ben Cooper"



Tax breaks ? Image ? Conscience ? To gain influence ?
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To help people because you have the means to do so?
With regards to the first. The millionaire who gives away a million
dollars would otherwise have probably given half of it to the tax
department. So the million isn't quite as generous as one may
originally have thought.
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Your speculation, of course.
The rich often like to "buy friends". Giving to charities often
provides that return.

Some rich people who have achieved their wealth by underhanded
means give money away to ease their conscience. It helps them to
pretend that what they have done/are doing is "okay".

The rich like to "protect" themselves from anyone who may challenge
them in business/privately/legally. Giving to charities helps
influence the more gullible that they care about others (instead of it
being a totally "commercial" exercise). It helps ensure that they get
help from all layers of society if they need it.
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Interesting that you assume the worst of motives behind
someone's actions.

Interesting, too, where people's prejudices manifest
themselves.
 
Ben said:
I suppose a 'nice' Billy Gates would be one that provides
billions of dollars of humanitarian aid through a charitable
foundation - http://www.gatesfoundation.org/
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Imagine you buy a new BMW and they tell you that only YOU and nobody
else ever is allowed to drive it ...

The worst of BG's activities, and I think that is really dangerous, is
creating a monopole in stock photography. Nobody on earth holds only the
half of copyrights on all kinds of historical and contemporary
photography than corbis.com. Since ten years his agents sat in all
photography auctions worldwide and bought one famous collection after
the other.

His dream was, whenever a school kid around the world clicks on a famous
picture, it has to pay, or at least his school has to pay. Education for
those who can afford it. Wonderful.

BG's philosophy was and is to make money with nearly everything you can
click on 'online'. His philosopy fits into the time, where most
Americans are quite sure to be the one and only, the graetest people on
earth. No wonder that courts around the world were and are busy with
cases against this philosophy that makes it hard for competitors to
exist ...
 
peter said:
Imagine you buy a new BMW and they tell you that only YOU and nobody
else ever is allowed to drive it ...

The worst of BG's activities, and I think that is really dangerous, is
creating a monopole in stock photography. Nobody on earth holds only
the half of copyrights on all kinds of historical and contemporary
photography than corbis.com. Since ten years his agents sat in all
photography auctions worldwide and bought one famous collection after
the other.

His dream was, whenever a school kid around the world clicks on a
famous picture, it has to pay, or at least his school has to pay.
Education for those who can afford it. Wonderful.

BG's philosophy was and is to make money with nearly everything you
can click on 'online'. His philosopy fits into the time, where most
Americans are quite sure to be the one and only, the graetest people
on earth. No wonder that courts around the world were and are busy
with cases against this philosophy that makes it hard for competitors
to exist ...
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I don't know what any of this has to do with Gates donating billions of
dollars to humanitarian efforts.
But I do hope you felt better for having typed it.
 
I don't know what any of this has to do with Gates donating billions of
dollars to humanitarian efforts.
But I do hope you felt better for having typed it.
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OK Ben, we'll keep the car and try another view.

BG has a monopoly on cars, the only car left is the "Micromobile"
You are a battler who has to work hard , and save hard to buy this
car. Before BG a car cost $50,000, Now it costs $100,000. Just so BG
can donate $10,000 to charity, to help the battlers elsewhere.
Why can't he help everybody by selling his products at a price we poor
people can afford, and being humanitarian in that way?
Make no mistake BG has a 100% mark-up and passes 10% to humanity, just
to salve his conscience. (The percentages may be wrong, but you get
the idea)
 
Ranrad said:
OK Ben, we'll keep the car and try another view.
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Heh, apparently you won't be keeping the BMW, it's not
priced so poor people can afford it.
BG has a monopoly on cars, the only car left is the "Micromobile"
You are a battler who has to work hard , and save hard to buy this
car. Before BG a car cost $50,000, Now it costs $100,000. Just so BG
can donate $10,000 to charity, to help the battlers elsewhere.
Why can't he help everybody by selling his products at a price we poor
people can afford, and being humanitarian in that way?
Make no mistake BG has a 100% mark-up and passes 10% to humanity, just
to salve his conscience. (The percentages may be wrong, but you get
the idea)
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I understand what you, Terry, John and Peter are saying, I
just don't agree with it.
We could probably discuss this until we're all blue in the
face and not change each other's opinions, though, so why
continue quibbling?
Let's just keep enjoying all the freeware we can find.
 
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