Optimum temperature for P4 Prescott?

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Get a cooler processor ;-)), look at liquid cooling. P4 Prescott = hot
CPU.

I suspect that these units will run fine at the increased temps folks
are just used to lower temps. The average user will never know the
difference unless they don't have air conditioning in the room during
the summer time ;-)).

Hope you keep that hot Cpu COOL!

This question about the prescott temp comes up often. Maybe a good
google could find a faq, or the many threads where this has been
discussed.

Alan
 
Get a cooler processor ;-)), look at liquid cooling. P4 Prescott = hot
CPU.

I suspect that these units will run fine at the increased temps folks
are just used to lower temps. The average user will never know the
difference unless they don't have air conditioning in the room during
the summer time ;-)).

Hope you keep that hot Cpu COOL!

This question about the prescott temp comes up often. Maybe a good
google could find a faq, or the many threads where this has been
discussed.

Alan

You're right, so long as CPU is stable the temps being
reported are low enough. The other issue though is
increased power consumption, even intel respec'd the
heatsink to put significantly more airflow on the
motherboard to help cool it (hopefully enough?) and then the
power supply must be more robust as well as the case
airflow... the CPU itself is the least of the problem so
long as system is set up properly according to their
recommendations and used in moderate ambient room temp.
 
Fantastic, clear comment. Ta Dorothy. Just one question re fans. (prescott
P4. 3.0E) I have only the power supply fan and an extra exhaust at the rear
of the case. If I put in an identical fan to that in the rear, at the front
of the case, but reverse its face so it draws air in, will this improve
circulation for the CPU?

If you have another empty rear exhaust fan port, I'd fit an exhaust fan there.

Failing that you can fit an intake fan as it will perform 2 functions:
o Intake fans act serially with exhaust fans to boost static pressure
---- thus they are not additive in airflow cfm
---- but they do allow the exhaust fan's cfm to be closer to free-air spec
o Intake fans will directly cool anything placed behind them
---- in many PCs this is a hard drive - read temp with S.M.A.R.T. tools

You could also improve the airflow thro the case by changing fan grills,
but this is more difficult - requiring the case to be stripped in some cases.

CPUs can run hot - they certainly are in coloco facilities :-)
 
Alan Walpool said:
Get a cooler processor ;-)), look at liquid cooling. P4 Prescott = hot
CPU.

I suspect that these units will run fine at the increased temps folks
are just used to lower temps. The average user will never know the
difference unless they don't have air conditioning in the room during
the summer time ;-)).

Hope you keep that hot Cpu COOL!

This question about the prescott temp comes up often. Maybe a good
google could find a faq, or the many threads where this has been
discussed.

Alan

Google searches turn up similar things to what we get here. I got some good
temp info from Intel direct. It's not just the CPU that runs hot on mobos
with Prescott cpus, but the system zones as well which run far hotter than
with cooler cpus. I was amazed that for system 2 (Intel 865PERL board) which
is near the memory chips, one should set Intel's Active Monitor to 70c.
(well, actually they recommend 3 degrees lower) whilch is the same setting
as for the CPU.

Eddie
 
Dorothy Bradbury said:
If you have another empty rear exhaust fan port, I'd fit an exhaust fan there.

Lacking a rear fan port aside from the power supply . . . can anyone
comment on the slot-style fans? I have some PCI slots to spare.

I'm running at 116 deg F / 47 C idle. 3000E, Stock Intel fan, heatsink
& thermal pad. Ambient temperature is in the mid to upper 60's (°F).
Case temperature is about 100 / 37 C.

Currently SOYO mobo doesn't see CPU fan RPM's -- curious about that
also.

Very helpful thread BTW.

rgds
JR
 
Lacking a rear fan port aside from the power supply . . . can anyone
comment on the slot-style fans? I have some PCI slots to spare.

I'm running at 116 deg F / 47 C idle. 3000E, Stock Intel fan, heatsink
& thermal pad. Ambient temperature is in the mid to upper 60's (°F).
Case temperature is about 100 / 37 C.

Currently SOYO mobo doesn't see CPU fan RPM's -- curious about that
also.

Very helpful thread BTW.

rgds
JR


Adding a slot fan should increase flow though case and
benefit video card cooling, but also alters flow path/rates.
It will decrease flow to upper region of case.

It may help but I suggest increasing front intake as much as
possible prior to trying it, even if it's a passive intake
enlargement rather than a fan. If you can manage to add an
intake fan on the bottom-front of the side panel such that
it moves air past the hard drives still, that would work
too, and is easier than disassembing whole case to cut the
holes (since side-panel is removable?).
 
kony said:
Adding a slot fan should increase flow though case and
benefit video card cooling, but also alters flow path/rates.
It will decrease flow to upper region of case.

It may help but I suggest increasing front intake as much as
possible prior to trying it, even if it's a passive intake
enlargement rather than a fan. If you can manage to add an
intake fan on the bottom-front of the side panel such that
it moves air past the hard drives still, that would work
too, and is easier than disassembing whole case to cut the
holes (since side-panel is removable?).

I get it I think; have to think how to power such a lower-side-panel
fan so that it can be plugged in (or remain plugged in) when side
panel slides in / out.

I have a fan on the front intake, but it's sucking through many small
(3 to 5 mm I'm guessing) holes as Dorothy describes. Maybe I can
borrow a chassis punch from work and make a bigger hole. What about
the front bezel? It's an old Micron Milennia case with the "smile"
(similar to new Dell mid-towers). I read some post where the writer
thought the chassis temperature should be no more than about 7 deg C
above ambient; is this realistic?

I'll be in the big city Sunday so maybe my gal will let me just buy a
new case.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

John R
 
I get it I think; have to think how to power such a lower-side-panel
fan so that it can be plugged in (or remain plugged in) when side
panel slides in / out.

If it's the more modern type where the side-panel is a
separate piece, not a U-shaped outer shell that comprises
both sides and the top, then it's fairly easy to just use a
fan adapter attached to a power supply lead, something like
this:
http://www.svcompucycle.com/3pinto4pinad.html
then it's just a matter of setting the panel all but the
last 8" into place and plugging in the fan, closing the rest
of the way.

I have a fan on the front intake, but it's sucking through many small
(3 to 5 mm I'm guessing) holes as Dorothy describes. Maybe I can
borrow a chassis punch from work and make a bigger hole.

yes, a bigger hole would help a lot if you get the front
bezel opened up more.
What about
the front bezel? It's an old Micron Milennia case with the "smile"
(similar to new Dell mid-towers).

You'll just have to look it over and determine if you can
add more intake area without disfiguring the case too much.
Sometimes the least obtrustive way to add intake is to cut
out (or enlarge existing areas) on the bottom-side of the
bezel, then if case feet don't elevate it enough to prevent
decreased airflow in that area, raise the case up with
taller feet or whatever you prefer. Other options for old
cases are cutting out a fan hole on the front or larger
square hole and putting a filter panel over the area.

I read some post where the writer
thought the chassis temperature should be no more than about 7 deg C
above ambient; is this realistic?

7C is possible, not really a golden number or anything...
depends a lot on the parts in the case, the flow rate and
acceptible noise levels (and how much work you're willing to
do). It's not really the temp above ambient that matters
though, it's the absolute temp regardless of what the
ambient is.

Primary heat-producing parts need low enough temp to promote
good lifespan. Drives shouldn't feel overly warm-> hot,
motherboard and video card regulation circuit caps shouldn't
be more than barely warm, and of course CPU, GPU, and other
chips cool enough to remain stable in operation at full
load.

I'll be in the big city Sunday so maybe my gal will let me just buy a
new case.

Could be the easier way, then you have the old case empty
and if desired, put more mods into it and it'll be useful
for some other project. An old case modded properly can
offer better cooling than a new one, just takes some work.
 
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