Opinions of Vista - Good & Bad

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"If you are a devoted user of Win2K or XP"
Windows XP will probably be supported for several more years so for
them, there may be no reason to switch.

If the current operating system does all it needs and there is no
expected benefit, there is no reason to upgrade to Windows Vista.
This applies to all types of products, not just computers.

As for UAC, seen often while initially setting up the computer, I
rarely see it any more.
That is typical but the actual use of the computer determines how
often.
During the Beta, I turned off UAC but it improved greatly during the
Beta to where it is now.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:22:04 -0700, niagara94
[ OK flamers -- I've opened up the door and am expecting broadsides
from both sides of the fence. ( ] "Bring 'em on!"

Yeah, you'll be flamed by the Vista haters.

Mike

Funny how it is ALWAYS those doing the accusing that make the most
noise. Of course you're not called a fanboy for nothing. ;-)

 

[Mike]

Funny how it is ALWAYS those doing the accusing that make the most
noise.

Yes, you *do* make a lot of noise here, don't you?

Of course you're not called a fanboy for nothing. ;-)

Only by you, so it doesn't really mean anything.

Mike

 

[ray]

Hi - What is everyone's opinion of Vista and (very important) why? I am
thinking of buying a new computer with Vista on it. I've heard some people
don't like Vista but I'm wondering why. Is anyone out there happy with Vista
and why? Thanks!

There are folks who are using it and loving it. There are other folks
who've had problems. I know of two local computer stores that refuse to
sell it. DELL had gone all vista, but had to add back the option for xp or
Ubuntu Linux - due to popular demand. Many reputable and competent
consultants are advising their clients not to buy vista until at lease
SP1. Not because it will not work for you, but because there is an
unacceptably high risk that it will not work properly for you.

 

[Ann]

Hi - What is everyone's opinion of Vista and (very important) why? I am
thinking of buying a new computer with Vista on it. I've heard some people
don't like Vista but I'm wondering why. Is anyone out there happy with Vista
and why? Thanks!

You might be interested in this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070725.wgtingram26/BNStory/Technology/home

Ann

 

[NotMe]

I think it is an AOL-ized version of XP.
Protect me from myself, and charge me double to do it.....hold my hand every
time I try to run a program or change a setting...is it really, really,
REALLY YOU?

 

[NotMe]

I have Vista Ultimate on one machine, I haven't seen the problems that many
report either.
But my system was built from scratch just for Vista and every piece of
hardware was Vista ready.
I just don't like all the backwards, hold my hand so I don't screw my
computer up, changes.
I never had security problems with XP, so the 'so called' extra security
features of Vista are useless to me.
I turned off all the visual effects in XP and have done the same in Vista.
When I looked at Vista in the early Betas and later Office 11, I thought,
WTF??!!
Whoever designed that needs to be fired.
I'll even donate the gasoline and matches...
But MS ignored my feedback and pushed ahead with this thing they call Vista.
So here it is, warts & all. I wouldn't recommend that anyone use it unless
there is something it will do that XP won't.
--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
(e-mail address removed)
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Hi - What is everyone's opinion of Vista and (very important) why? I am
thinking of buying a new computer with Vista on it. I've heard some
people
don't like Vista but I'm wondering why. Is anyone out there happy with
Vista
and why? Thanks!

If you are a devoted user of Win2K or XP, then you may not like
Vista's new look & feel, including the "ribbon" motif in Office 2007.
If you have the latest and greatest, bleeding-edge peripherals, the
Vista drivers may not yet be up to scratch.

But, if you are a bit more tolerant of change, and have the patience
to learn new ways of doing some things, and are willing to hunt around
a bit to find your favorite menu item or tool tab, then you may well
learnt to actualy like some of Vista's "new look".

Personally, I approached Vista with a good deal of skepticism and
doubt, but have been pleasantly surprised. Mine (on a new HP laptop)
has been rock stable, with none of the "grievous faults" that some
others have reported. A few minor annoyances and frustrations when I
couldn't figure out how to do some simple things with Win2K that were
very useful, but with a little help from the NG, I usually was able to
find how to go about things.

On balance, I'm not unhappy with Vista, although I did disable the
very annoying "big brother" that asked my permission to do just about
anything. Some of the new diagnostic/help tools actually work pretty
well, and have saved me having to post many questions on the NGs.

However, I do have Win2K available on an older system, as a backup,
and a dual-boot Ubuntu system on the laptop, so that my files can be
accessed by an alternate route just in case the worst happens.

[ OK flamers -- I've opened up the door and am expecting broadsides
from both sides of the fence. ( ] "Bring 'em on!"

 

[David A. Spicer]

On my notebook I agree with you. However, on my desktop, which has an
Experience Index of 5.9, the difference isn't even noticeable.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

Hi - What is everyone's opinion of Vista and (very important) why? I am
thinking of buying a new computer with Vista on it. I've heard some
people
don't like Vista but I'm wondering why. Is anyone out there happy with
Vista
and why? Thanks!

I myself I have not had one problem out of Vista that came on the HP laptop,
and then it was upgraded to another version of Vista. I like Vista better
than I like XP, which I have used XP on and off the job for a few years and
know XP well.

I'll never go back XP in my personal usage ever again. One reason is because
of the links and what Vista has that XP doesn't have in the solution.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0905.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx

 

[DanS]

Hi - What is everyone's opinion of Vista and (very important) why? I
am thinking of buying a new computer with Vista on it. I've heard
some people don't like Vista but I'm wondering why. Is anyone out
there happy with Vista and why? Thanks!

If you are a devoted user of Win2K or XP, then you may not like
Vista's new look & feel, including the "ribbon" motif in Office 2007.
If you have the latest and greatest, bleeding-edge peripherals, the
Vista drivers may not yet be up to scratch.

But, if you are a bit more tolerant of change, and have the patience
to learn new ways of doing some things, and are willing to hunt around
a bit to find your favorite menu item or tool tab, then you may well
learnt to actualy like some of Vista's "new look".

Personally, I approached Vista with a good deal of skepticism and
doubt, but have been pleasantly surprised. Mine (on a new HP laptop)
has been rock stable, with none of the "grievous faults" that some
others have reported. A few minor annoyances and frustrations when I
couldn't figure out how to do some simple things with Win2K that were
very useful, but with a little help from the NG, I usually was able to
find how to go about things.

On balance, I'm not unhappy with Vista, although I did disable the
very annoying "big brother" that asked my permission to do just about
anything. Some of the new diagnostic/help tools actually work pretty
well, and have saved me having to post many questions on the NGs.

However, I do have Win2K available on an older system, as a backup,
and a dual-boot Ubuntu system on the laptop, so that my files can be
accessed by an alternate route just in case the worst happens.

[ OK flamers -- I've opened up the door and am expecting broadsides
from both sides of the fence. ( ] "Bring 'em on!"

Didn't get flamed at all did you ?

Why ?

Because your post about your experience with Vista was well written. It
contained, at the beginning, a conditional on what you thought the user
expectation of Vista may be, based on a persons personality.

You went on to say you were skeptical about it at first, and that after
trying it, you were suprised that it worked well for you on your
hardware.

You pointed out some good points, AND some bad points, in your well-
written post.

The replies may have been much different if you said....'Vista is great.
I love it. It's the best OS ever. It is way better than anything else out
there.'

Seems to me 'well-written intelligent post' == 'well-written intelligent
replies'.........generally.

 

[Erik Jan]

NotMe had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 26-07-07 04:01:

So here it is, warts & all. I wouldn't recommend that anyone use it unless
there is something it will do that XP won't.

If I am well informed, XP won't let you be bothered by DRM problems ......

Erik Jan

 

[Dave Cox]

I've just begun to use Vista in earnest recently. As much as I
like it, I still think there appear to be way too many bugs in it.

I certainly don't advise anyone to buy it. With XP still doing
everything 99% of the world needs along with support ongoing for
some time still, save the money or use it on something else.

I did a clean install on a freshly partitioned drive on a slightly
old Dell box and dual boot XP. A new more powerful vid card is
next to use all the 'pretty stuff' Vista has to offer. And really,
that's about all it has to offer.

Any above average knowledge user would be hard pressed to justify
the purchase.

I have encountered a few things needing some homework to fix, but
really over all a pleasant experience.

The biggest thing that bugs me is the requirement to now create
another user to access my other identities mail accounts. D-U-M-B.

I use Outlook 2007 I can check multiple email accounts under one
Vista login.

 

[xfile]

Hi,

In general, I agree with you and I think we've discussed this before.

This is not the place to determined if the OS is good or bad, sort of speak,
as to human race was fit and healthy used in your example.

But sicentists and researchers don't go to hospital to determine that, and
they know it better, which I believe I've shared with you before.

Sicentists and researchers go to infected areas including hospitals to
determined the origins and sources of the disdeases and how it spread out so
they can come up any prevention measurements among other things.

In this and other similar newsgroups, a potential user and/or professional
can learn what kind of problems have been reported and if they can be solved
(easily) and/or prevented, and thus, to determine if they want to use the
product.

I think there is no need to argue if there is a problem-free product or
software; there isn't, and we don't need to prentend that here is only
minority and isolated cases, which we have no way to prove it.

A more realisitic and objective person will take the same approach as
described above to determine if he/she or the entire organization is
prepared to handle those kind of problems (instead of turning their head
away and pretending there isn't any) and balance with the perceived benefits
for the final decision.

The worst kind of problem are random problems for which user and
professionals have no clues for when will it incur under what kind of
circumstances and how to solve it. As an example, copying and pasting
slowness in Vista is one of this kind of problem for which many have
experienced and resported in many places but many others don't experience at
all and it seems no consistent reasons for why would it happen and how to
solve it.

So I expect as an ex-Microsoft employee, you would need to provide a
balanced view to begin with.

My two cents.

 

[Ian Betts]

I myself I have not had one problem out of Vista that came on the HP
laptop, and then it was upgraded to another version of Vista. I like Vista
better than I like XP, which I have used XP on and off the job for a few
years and know XP well.

I'll never go back XP in my personal usage ever again. One reason is
because of the links and what Vista has that XP doesn't have in the
solution.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0905.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx

Vista is Good, It is different to XP, It is more stable and has more
facilities. That said, my advice would be this. If you need a new computer,
accept that pre loaded Vista with glee. If not. do not go out and buy it. It
is way to expensive and XP is still OK for at least 5 years.