ok so is this legal?

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I've done it before...I think the key is telling them I bought it over the
counter at a local store which I did, with no qualifying hardware.
Joe Bloggs probably hasn't even heard of the differences between OEM &
retail versions.
Works for me everytime & i'm being 100% honest in the answers i give them.
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Agree no problem moveing OEM when you phone MS, and tell them
where, how and when.. or what they might ask.

Also running a OEM version, they usually allow 1-2 Major upgrades before
they wont let me have a new s/n. (how it worked for Xp)
For vista ive only done this once so far.

But the OEM i got, was also over the counter. at the 1/5 of the "normal"
price.
But then again after 2 major upgrades im gonna need to purchase a new s/n
since they only allow the first 1-2 upgrades..

Major upgrades could be
- Motherboard/
- Cpu
- Gpu
- Harddrive (only registered on activation C: drive)

Minor upgrades with no difficulties are from experience
- Networking equipement in general.
- Harddrives (besides C: drive Not registered with activation)
- And what else equipment you might find usefull for your "private" system
By private its not a issue as in if it is a Commercial use.
Com use no major upgrades allowed. $$$


Let the money train roll along.. :p

Martin
 
MS isn't supposed to talk to you about an OEM license. You're supposed to
call your vendor about it.

This just goes to show that MS tech support has their heads where the sun
don't shine.
 
LUCKY? Luck has nothing to do with it. In all the years that I've been using
XP (since RTM), I've used the same OEM CD and I've upgraded the motherboard
and CPU (by definition a new computer) about once a year. I just called the
M$ Activation Center and they activated it for me, very few questions asked.
Other than the phone number, I doubt Vista activation is any different.
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My other TIME/SPACE machine is a TARDIS <<=- '...and with that cryptic
comment I'm off to bed' Stop with your lies. Reality is what I say it is.
Going back to the origin is called peace... Any sufficiently advanced
technology looks like magic.
 
I always buy my OEM CDs with a computer case.
As far as I am concerned, whatever I put inside the case is the same
computer.
I have also updated MBs and CPUs and had to phone activate.
Initially there was little resistance to it.
Lately, they have started asking questions.
But as I read the EULA, as long as I continue to use the 'major component'
that I bought the disk with, it's legal.
 
Justin said:
MS isn't supposed to talk to you about an OEM license. You're supposed
to call your vendor about it.

This just goes to show that MS tech support has their heads where the
sun don't shine.
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Um, OEMs don't do activation, MS does. So, where is your head?

Alias
 
Bruce said:
An OEM license? Has it ever been installed on any computer? Did it
come with a new computer that you purchased? If the answer to any two
of these question is "Yes," then you may not legitimately sell it. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legitimately transferable to any
other computer under any circumstances.
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The OP is UK-based.

While I'm not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice...

He purchased the OEM software from a shop, and is subject to the
contract given to him by the shop when he bought it.
Unless he's signed a contact to agree not to sell it on, there's nothing
Microsoft can do about that. Even if he installs it on his machine, and
agrees to the EULA, the lack of consideration means that such a contract
is not binding.

The fact that the US has ridiculous laws to allow a company to present a
license to you restricting what you can do with software AFTER you've
bought it doesn't affect people based in the UK.

Alun Harford
 
Alias said:
Um, OEMs don't do activation, MS does. So, where is your head?
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Oh alias. You just keep stepping it!!! MS can tell by the key that it's
OEM. Add the fact that the hardware changed and according to MS you are out
of luck. The manufacture would have to clear that mess up. However just
like XP, people are sneaking in changes under the radar.

Keep trying alias, one of these days you're bound to step in something good.
 
David A. Spicer said:
We're talking activation, so XP or Vista doesn't matter.
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Oh yes it does! Are you saying the EULA is exact word for word on both OSs?
Nope.

Vista is Vista and XP is XP.
 
Justin said:
Oh alias. You just keep stepping it!!! MS can tell by the key that
it's OEM. Add the fact that the hardware changed and according to MS
you are out of luck.
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False.

The manufacture would have to clear that mess up.
However just like XP, people are sneaking in changes under the radar.

Keep trying alias, one of these days you're bound to step in something
good.
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You're being a moron again.

Alias
 
Alias said:
False.
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Ok, alias. According to MS you can change hardware on an OEM license.
Whatever you say. The rest of us know the reality of the situation.
The manufacture would have to clear that mess up.

You're being a moron again.
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Whatever helps you through the day!
 
Justin said:
Ok, alias. According to MS you can change hardware on an OEM license.
Whatever you say. The rest of us know the reality of the situation.
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One can't update the hardware of one's computer if one has bought a
generic OEM copy of Windows? Since when?

Alias
 
Justin said:
Wow! Your ignorance truly amazes me:
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Ignorance is not a fault. *Everyone* is ignorant of something.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=Windows+OEM+license+change+hardware
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To which Google result are you referring? Are you saying that one cannot
update one's hardware with a generic OEM copy of Windows or not? Does
this just apply to Vista or to XP as well? If true, Windows can say good
bye to the hobbyists. And, you must admit, if true, this is news, not
something I should have known.
Better yet, how about you tell us again how MILLIONS of people have
installed ubuntu 7.x. That one was hilarious!!!!
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Just curious, why do you care how many have been installed? Estimates
are that there are between four and eight million Ubuntu users. As there
is no activation, cash receipt, etc., like there is with Windows and
Apple, it's hard to pin it down. Over a million Unbuntu 7.04 CDs have
been ordered but each one could be copied and given to a friend, same
goes for the ISOs. In a world with over 6 billion people, a million
isn't as much it used to be.

Alias
 
Alias said:
Ignorance is not a fault. *Everyone* is ignorant of something.


To which Google result are you referring? Are you saying that one cannot
update one's hardware with a generic OEM copy of Windows or not? Does this
just apply to Vista or to XP as well? If true, Windows can say good bye to
the hobbyists. And, you must admit, if true, this is news, not something I
should have known.
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Obviously not. It's been that way for a while. However, MS has let it
slide on XP many times and it seems the same for Vista.

One example is that you can NOT change your mainboard with an OEM license.
You can physically change it and it will require activation and MS claims
you wont get it however dummies on the phone are doing it anyway. What do
you expect when you pay HALF THE PRICE of a product?
Just curious, why do you care how many have been installed? Estimates are
that there are between four and eight million Ubuntu users. As there is no
activation, cash receipt, etc., like there is with Windows and Apple, it's
hard to pin it down. Over a million Unbuntu 7.04 CDs have been ordered but
each one could be copied and given to a friend, same goes for the ISOs. In
a world with over 6 billion people, a million isn't as much it used to be.
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BS. You where asked for proof and you have given nothing. I care about the
truth and so far there is nothing truthful about over a million 7.x CD's
being ordered.

So unless you would like to provide it now for the second time?
 
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