OEM Windows: XP uninstall on 1st computer; Install on 2nd computer

[Guest]

I recall reading in MS literature that one can install a XP copy and after 60
days you can uninstall that copy and reinstall it on another computer.

Does anyone know if this is true?

If it is true, how does Microsoft get the message that the Windows on the
1st computer is uninstalled and that the SAME copy on the second computer is
legitimate.

Do you have to telephone Microsoft to confirm the uninstall or is there some
sort of automatic notification.

Thanks for any help.

Dr J

 

[Guest]

Due to windows Geniune advantage they know, and OEM versions of windows are
locked to one pc and one pc only, you take a chance of having to buy another
copy of windows if you switch to another pc, and or replace the motherboard .

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I recall reading in MS literature that one can install a XP copy and after 60
days you can uninstall that copy and reinstall it on another computer.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Well, if you've a retail license, you can remove it from one computer
and transfer it to another. There is no 60 day waiting period, though.
Of course, OEM licenses are not transferable to another computer ever,
under any circumstances.

If it is true, how does Microsoft get the message that the Windows on the
1st computer is uninstalled and that the SAME copy on the second computer is
legitimate.

Do you have to telephone Microsoft to confirm the uninstall or is there some
sort of automatic notification.

Thanks for any help.

Dr J

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
transferable), simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on
and then install it on the new computer. If it's been more than 120
days since you last activated that specific Product Key, the you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Not true. An OEM license is only valid on the very first
computer it is installed and activated on.

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| I recall reading in MS literature that one can install a XP copy and after 60
| days you can uninstall that copy and reinstall it on another computer.
|
| Does anyone know if this is true?
|
| If it is true, how does Microsoft get the message that the Windows on the
| 1st computer is uninstalled and that the SAME copy on the second computer is
| legitimate.
|
| Do you have to telephone Microsoft to confirm the uninstall or is there some
| sort of automatic notification.
|
| Thanks for any help.
|
| Dr J

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the replies. That saves me a bunch of frustration trying to make
it work.

Dr J

 

[Plato]

I recall reading in MS literature that one can install a XP copy and after 60
days you can uninstall that copy and reinstall it on another computer.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Yes I know. It's untrue.

 

[Ken Blake]

I recall reading in MS literature that one can install a XP copy and
after 60 days you can uninstall that copy and reinstall it on another
computer.

First, it depends on whether the XP copy is OEM or retail.

If it's OEM, the license is permanently tied to the original computer it's
installed on, and it can never be moved to another. This is, to my way of
thinking, the biggest disadvantage of an OEM version.

If it's retail, you can move it to another computer whenever you want and as
often as you want. There is no need to wait 60 days.

Does anyone know if this is true?

If it is true, how does Microsoft get the message that the Windows on
the 1st computer is uninstalled and that the SAME copy on the second
computer is legitimate.

They trust you.

Do you have to telephone Microsoft to confirm the uninstall or is
there some sort of automatic notification.

If it's been at least 120 days since the last activation, you can activate
normally over the internet.

If fewer than 120 days, you have to activate by voice telephone call, where
you explain what you've done. But that's quick and easy--normally under five
minutes.

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Totally false, anyway one wants to look at it.

In the first place, the length of time the Activation records are kept
on Microsoft's servers is 120 days, not 60, so one would have to wait
120 days before the Activation record was wiped.

In the second place, there is no need to wait ANY length of time if
the XP distro is a RETAIL distro. He simply has to remove it from the
first machine, then install it on the second.

In the third place, if the XP distro is an OEM, there is no
possibility of having a legal Activation in any case whether or not
one removes it from the first machine and installs it on the second.
It is simply not legal to install an OEM product on a second machine,
whether or not it is removed from a first.

First, it depends on whether the XP copy is OEM or retail.

If it's OEM, the license is permanently tied to the original computer it's
installed on, and it can never be moved to another. This is, to my way of
thinking, the biggest disadvantage of an OEM version.

If it's retail, you can move it to another computer whenever you want and as
often as you want. There is no need to wait 60 days.




They trust you

It is not so much that they "trust you", but there is a mechanism
built into Activation which distinguishes between the various types of
keys used to install the OS.

If one installs an OEM machine on a second machine, it will show up on
their server because of the type of key, and because it will be
compared with the current Activation records for that key.

Of course, if one does wait 120 days before installing it on a second
machine, I cannot comment on.

Not necessary. How would Microsoft confirm that you uninstalled it?
Come to your house and examine your machines?

If it's been at least 120 days since the last activation, you can activate
normally over the internet.

If fewer than 120 days, you have to activate by voice telephone call, where
you explain what you've done. But that's quick and easy--normally under five
minutes.

This is not always true. Many times the activation will go through
via the Internet anyway (this has been my experience, at least.
Perhaps it hasn't been another's experience).

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Donald L. McDaniel
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[Donald L McDaniel]

First, it depends on whether the XP copy is OEM or retail.

If it's OEM, the license is permanently tied to the original computer it's
installed on, and it can never be moved to another. This is, to my way of
thinking, the biggest disadvantage of an OEM version.

Of course, to my way of thinking, the biggest disadvantage to the
Retail License is its higher cost.

But when compared with the disadvantage of an OEM license and its
advantage in price, I guess the higher price of a Retail license would
pay over the long-run, while the lower price of an OEM license would
pay over the short-run. So it depends on the state of one's
cash-flow, really.

If it's retail, you can move it to another computer whenever you want and as
often as you want. There is no need to wait 60 days.




They trust you.




If it's been at least 120 days since the last activation, you can activate
normally over the internet.

If fewer than 120 days, you have to activate by voice telephone call, where
you explain what you've done. But that's quick and easy--normally under five
minutes.

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Donald L. McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread.
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[arachnid]

But when compared with the disadvantage of an OEM license and its
advantage in price, I guess the higher price of a Retail license would
pay over the long-run, while the lower price of an OEM license would
pay over the short-run. So it depends on the state of one's
cash-flow, really.

The problem is that even though you have a full retail license, you still
have to pay for an OEM license with every machine you buy.

 

[Bob I]

The problem is that even though you have a full retail license, you still
have to pay for an OEM license with every machine you buy.

ONLY if you are dumb enough to buy a PC that comes with an OEM license.

 

[Ken Blake]

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:37:35 -0700, "Ken Blake"


Of course, to my way of thinking, the biggest disadvantage to the
Retail License is its higher cost.

Of course.

But when compared with the disadvantage of an OEM license and its
advantage in price, I guess the higher price of a Retail license would
pay over the long-run, while the lower price of an OEM license would
pay over the short-run. So it depends on the state of one's
cash-flow, really.

A Retail Upgrade version is usually very close to the price of an OEM
version, and that's what I normally recommend for most people. Most people
qualify to use the Upgrade version, and for anyone who doesn't own a
qualifying version, a used copy of Windows can usually be bought very
cheaply.

 

[Ken Blake]

The problem is that even though you have a full retail license, you
still have to pay for an OEM license with every machine you buy.

Not at all true. There are other computers sold besides those manufactured
by the big OEMs. Almost everywhere, you have the option of having a system
built for you by a small local builder (and no OEM license is necessary).
Even if you live in a small town without sucha local builder, many of them
do mail-order business and will ship.

Or you can build a computer yourself.

 

[arachnid]

ONLY if you are dumb enough to buy a PC that comes with an OEM license.

Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Frys... which one can I walk into and
buy an Intel-platform computer without having to pay for Windows?

 

[Ken Blake]

Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Frys... which one can I walk into and
buy an Intel-platform computer without having to pay for Windows?

That misses the point entirely. There are other places to buy computers
besides Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Frys. Those places may be the
commonest places to buy computers, and they may be the easiest places to buy
computers, but they are not the only places to buy computers.

If you had said "you still often to pay for an OEM license with many
machines you buy," I would have had no argument with your statement. That
would have been correct, but when you say "you still *have to* pay for an
OEM license with *every* machine you buy," that's manifestly false.

 

[Bob I]

Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Frys... which one can I walk into and
buy an Intel-platform computer without having to pay for Windows?

If you insist on applying the the preceding sentence to yourself then I
guess it applies.

 

[arachnid]

Not at all true. There are other computers sold besides those manufactured
by the big OEMs. Almost everywhere, you have the option of having a system
built for you by a small local builder (and no OEM license is necessary).
Even if you live in a small town without sucha local builder, many of them
do mail-order business and will ship.

Or you can build a computer yourself.

Like most people, I don't want a no-name computer built by some
fly-by-night shop and possibly even ordered over the Internet. What I want
is a name-brand system sold by a reputable local retailer that's been
around a decade or two, so if there's a problem I can take it back and be
sure of a refund. It is due to Microsoft's exclusionary OEM agreements
that I cannot obtain such a system minus Windows. If you even try to claim
it's not Microsoft's doing, I'll dig up BeOS and the earlier antitrust
case and any number of current articles.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

That misses the point entirely. There are other places to buy computers
besides Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Frys. Those places may be the
commonest places to buy computers, and they may be the easiest places to buy
computers, but they are not the only places to buy computers.

And they're also pretty much the worse places to buy computers, when
one considers the knowledge level of their sales staff and their after
sales support....


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[Bruce Chambers]

Like most people, I don't want a no-name computer built by some
fly-by-night shop and possibly even ordered over the Internet. What I want
is a name-brand system sold by a reputable local retailer that's been
around a decade or two, so if there's a problem I can take it back and be
sure of a refund.

Then you most definitely do not want to have anything to do with the
big box stores...

Your local "mom & pop" system builder will be a much better source.
Hint: It's not the sticker on the outside of the PC case that
determines the quality of the case's internal components.


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[--Alias--]

Like most people, I don't want a no-name computer built by some
fly-by-night shop and possibly even ordered over the Internet. What I want
is a name-brand system sold by a reputable local retailer that's been
around a decade or two, so if there's a problem I can take it back and be
sure of a refund. It is due to Microsoft's exclusionary OEM agreements
that I cannot obtain such a system minus Windows. If you even try to claim
it's not Microsoft's doing, I'll dig up BeOS and the earlier antitrust
case and any number of current articles.

Um, your motherboard has a manufacturer and, guess what, they have a
warranty. Same holds true for every other component of any consequence
that goes into making a computer. Dell, HP, et al, make more money on
the crap they bundle with Windows than they do from you so guess who
they are beholding to? Hint: it's not you. You'd be better off building
it yourself or getting someone who knows what they're doing to build it.

Alias