OE-Quote Fix

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Pete,

The second one has a period right next to it.

Like the second one here... :-) :-)... :-)

And here... ;-( ;-(.. ;-( Leave some space.

Experiment a little. :-D :-D. :-D

:o)... :o). :o) . :o).

Click Reply to see the characters behind the emoticons. *eg*

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Wes
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Pete said:
Pete wrote:


Wes the first smiley showed up above (as a yellow), but not the second
one - this is the second time I have seen this. Any idea what is going
on - now I don't know if I like quote fix - lol...Pete
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Wesley said:
Pete,

The second one has a period right next to it.

Like the second one here... :-) :-)... :-)

And here... ;-( ;-(.. ;-( Leave some space.

Experiment a little. :-D :-D. :-D


Click Reply to see the characters behind the emoticons. *eg*
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Thanks a lot Wes...I didn't know about the spaces...Pete
 
Wesley said:
OE-QuoteFix - stand-alone opens OEQuoteFix.exe. When first clicked
you'll see this message...
---------------------------
OE-QuoteFix
---------------------------
Outlook Express 5/6 is not running.
Do you want to disable dependency
to start OE-QuoteFix anyway?
---------------------------
Yes No
---------------------------

If you click Yes, OE-QuoteFix opens w/o OE. Then the next time you
click on OE-QuoteFix - stand-alone, it opens OE-QuoteFix without any
popups and w/o OE. Hence, stand-alone. I don't really know what
good running OE-QuoteFix w/o OE is. Although there are some things
you can do, like adjust settings.


When you answer yes to the pop-up, OE-QuoteFix does not close when
you close OE. You have to go into Advanced Options in OE-QuoteFix
and select Depend on OE to get it to close when OE closes.

Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix opens OELaunch.exe which opens
OEQuoteFix.exe & Outlook Express (msimn.exe).

These are just options to confuse the user. :-)

If OE-QuoteFix & OE open and close at the same time, leave it that
way.

Is that any less clear? LOL
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Yeh...I guuuuueeeessss. LOL ....I'm like you, I don't see what the hell the
real purpose of the stand alone is. Any idea about the dark blue versus the
light blue I talked about. It's NBD I guess. don't worry about it. Thanks
for your help. Will talk to you later...Pete

PS - It can't be any worse than thunderbird. Tbird is the most unuser
friendly (ie NOT friendly) application I have ever seen. The font window
and the inter-relationships between the fonts and the html and the plain
text is incredibly complicated. No indexed help like OE has. I spent days
on end in the mozilla group, with a lot of heartburn. I will stay with my
OE. You probably like TB, so excuse me, but it is definitely not user
friendly to newby's that have never used it before. Take care :-) ...Pete.
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Pete said:
Wesley said:
Pete,

- In start/programs there should be another item, called
Documentation.

Documentation is a shortcut to C:\Program
Files\OE-QuoteFix\docs\index.html. This is OE-QuoteFix's HELP.

This from Documentation...

Starting OE-QuoteFix
[[Start OE-QuoteFix via the start menu or the icon that was created
on your desktop:

Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix will launch Outlook Express
together with OE-QuoteFix. Note that by default, OE-QuoteFix is
configured to terminate as soon as OE is closed. If you usually run
Outlook Express with a parameter, e.g. /outnews, you can modify the
shortcut and specify those parameters for OELaunch.exe; they will
then be passed on to Outlook Express.

Using the default settings, OE-QuoteFix stand-alone will only start
OE-QuoteFix if Outlook Express is already running. But if you
disable the option Depend on OE, you can use this shortcut to start
OE-QuoteFix without Outlook Express. If you would like to keep
OE-QuoteFix running all the time, disable Depend on OE and copy the
stand-alone shortcut to your StartUp folder.]]
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Wes...I already read that after I sent the message (it's also
available by right clicking the OE quote fix icon in the icon tray
and clicking "help"). But I don't understand what the hell it is
saying (do you). It is about as clear as mud. Let me ask again,
why do I have the envelope which has the dark arrows on it (in my
icon tray) which implies the stand alone, but yet I am in the
"Outlook Express with OE quote fix" mode in reality (ie it launches
with the fix and terminates after and every thing seems to be
working - it does some weird stuff with the colors on previous
messages - the >>>>>'s color above the text seems to be "one away
from" the color in the text -NBD, I'll figure it out later). At
least it strips the sigs and the smileys are neat :-).

Please try to explain the stand alone feature more if you can. Like
I said I have reclicked the "Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix"
entry (in start/programs) several times, so why don't I get the
envelope in the icon tray with the light blue arrows (mine stays
dark blue - which indicates the stand alone mode, but I am not in
the stand alone mode). I don't think its worth uninstalling and
reinstalling, because I feel it will do the same thing. It's also
important to note I do have the "Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix"
icon on my desk top which I use to activate OE with the fix, which
is further evidence I am in the right mode.

Maybe the damn icon in the icon tray stays purple no matter what mode
you're in, and it aint working right - lol. What do you think...Pete
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Pete wrote:
Hi everyone,

Below is a paste of an e-mail I sent to the quote fix person
associated with the download site for OE-Quote Fix. I got no
response (must have went out of business - but the message sent -
sent it twice).
[[ "I have the latest OE that comes with XPsp2 (version
6.00.2900.2180). All of your software appears to be dated 2003
plus the ISO patch you have (no date) says it won't work with
versions above 6.00.2800.1123. Am I correct in assuming I can
not use your OE-QuoteFix."]]
Would someone tell me if the latest version of quote fix will work
with my xpsp2 home edition. I don't want to download it and
install it for fear it will mess up my IE/OE.

Here is the site -
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/.

Please check it, and let me know if it is safe to install.

Thanks...Pete

Hi again. everyone...I installed OE-Quote fix and I like it. I
have a couple more questions if you may be so kind.

- In start/programs it lists two different items - one is "OE
QuoteFix - stand alone" (which has dark blue arrows around the
envelope) and the other is "Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix"
(which has light blue arrows aroung the envelope). Please tell me
what the difference is between the two. I have clicked them both
on and it doesn't seem to matter - either way I get the envelope
with the dark blue arrows in my icon tray in the lower right hand
corner. Everything seems to be working all right but I may not
know. Please explain.

- Is there way to get it to show you a list of the emoticons (like
thunderbird does in html compose mode). I tried both html and
plain text and I don't think it will do that. In other words do
you still have to type in the emoticons manually, but they will
display as the yellow smileys.

Thanks...Pete
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Pete,

Ctrl + F3 shows the Message Source.

Click this message and hit Ctrl + F3 then scroll down to where it says
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506

You can get the same thing by right clicking a message, selecting
Properties and clicking the Details tab. To get to the Message Source,
click the button.

X-Newsreader shows what the poster is using as a newsreader.

Note that mine is not Thunderbird.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Pete said:
Yeh...I guuuuueeeessss. LOL ....I'm like you, I don't see what the hell
the real purpose of the stand alone is. Any idea about the dark blue
versus the light blue I talked about. It's NBD I guess. don't worry
about it. Thanks for your help. Will talk to you later...Pete

PS - It can't be any worse than thunderbird. Tbird is the most unuser
friendly (ie NOT friendly) application I have ever seen. The font window
and the inter-relationships between the fonts and the html and the plain
text is incredibly complicated. No indexed help like OE has. I spent
days on end in the mozilla group, with a lot of heartburn. I will stay
with my OE. You probably like TB, so excuse me, but it is definitely not
user friendly to newby's that have never used it before. Take care :-)
...Pete.
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Wesley said:
Pete,

Ctrl + F3 shows the Message Source.

Click this message and hit Ctrl + F3 then scroll down to where it says
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506
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This is not the latest, version, I guess because you uninstalled sp2 (hows
that for a memory). You never did tell me why you uninstalled sp2. Were
you having trouble with it...Pete
You can get the same thing by right clicking a message, selecting
Properties and clicking the Details tab. To get to the Message
Source, click the button.

X-Newsreader shows what the poster is using as a newsreader.

Note that mine is not Thunderbird.
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God Wes, you totally misunderstood me (I hate it when that happens - lol ).
I'm very capable at reading message headers and know how to use a puter <g>.
I was trying to make a joke about Tbird because of all the trouble with the
fonts/html/plain text (way too complicated like I said) - since it related
strongly to the OE quote fix we have been talking about, and I went through
hell in the mozilla newsgroup for TB recently, like I said.

I didn't even bother checking your header because I figured you would be
using OE, being a MS-MVP, plus I've talked with you before (you are a real
good person). However, I think most people these days have tried TBird and
all the hoopla is that it is way better than OE (at least for the security
crap - which I don't worry about). And everybody bitches that OE doesn't
strip sigs (well it does now :-)). I'm sure Bill will be fixing that one of
these days, as well as adding tabbed browsing to IE - that may get into
patent stuff. However IMO, Tbird is not user friendly at all, like I said.

As a professional, I figured you wouldn't say anything bad about another
news reader, even though its freeware (source code stuff). I figured you
might come back and actually say you liked it or something -ie you can be an
MVP, and use two, or even three different newsreaders :-) See I remembered
not to put a period after the smiley (that will bother my writing style).

Anyway, what do you think about TB, or do you have to keep silent. Now
firefox is another story, and I just switched to it and love it. The tabbed
browsing tends to make IE archaic, and the bookmarks are more manageable
than IE's favorites, and it loads web pages faster on my snail dial up. I
have used IE/OE for the last 10 years and now I will be using firefox, but
stay with OE.

Are you going to agree with me that TBird is not user friendly, or do you
like it. I know an MVP in another ng who uses it all the time along with
firefox and he's not afraid to talk about it. I guess he uses both IE/OE
and firefox/TB (not sure why he goes back and forth - I know certain sites
require IE but firefox has an extension to get around that). Let me know
what you think of TB. I'm sure you've tried it...Pete
 
Hi Pete,

I did not mean to insult your computer skills and if I did, I apologize.

I had some problems with SP2 and it did some things that I didn't like. So
I dumped it.

I have never even tried any other newsreader, Thunderbird included. I know
absolutely nothing about Thunderbird. Back when I had Windows 98 and was
using AOL (I know ;-( ) I tried getting rid of OE. I knew nothing about
newsgroups, AOL handled my E-mail and I couldn't understand why OE was even
on my machine. I'm sure that there are better newsreaders than OE, but OE
is OK with me. About the only thing that I don't like about OE is the way
it handles message composition and formatting.

I mean, you type a paragraph, forget a word or two, go back and type in the
word and
end up with this.

I mean
paragraphs that have broken lines that
end up
looking like
this.

It makes it look like you don't even know what the Enter key is for or how
to use it.

Or even using spell check before sending, spell check corrects a word and
makes
it longer and you get screwed up paragraphs like this one.

If I do not like something I do not keep quiet about it. I bad mouth McAfee
every chance I get. 8-)

A long time ago I tried NetScape, that was while I was using AOL and I don't
even remember much about it.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Wesley said:
Hi Pete,

I did not mean to insult your computer skills and if I did, I
apologize.
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Thank you Wes. No offense was taken. You are a gentleman and a scholar,
like I told you once before. See my additional comments below...Pete
I had some problems with SP2 and it did some things that I didn't
like. So I dumped it.

I have never even tried any other newsreader, Thunderbird included.
I know absolutely nothing about Thunderbird. Back when I had Windows
98 and was using AOL (I know ;-( ) I tried getting rid of OE. I
knew nothing about newsgroups, AOL handled my E-mail and I couldn't
understand why OE was even on my machine. I'm sure that there are
better newsreaders than OE, but OE is OK with me. About the only
thing that I don't like about OE is the way it handles message
composition and formatting.

I mean, you type a paragraph, forget a word or two, go back and type
in the word and
end up with this.

I mean
paragraphs that have broken lines that
end up
looking like
this.

It makes it look like you don't even know what the Enter key is for
or how to use it.

Or even using spell check before sending, spell check corrects a word
and makes
it longer and you get screwed up paragraphs like this one.

If I do not like something I do not keep quiet about it. I bad mouth
McAfee every chance I get. 8-)

A long time ago I tried NetScape, that was while I was using AOL and
I don't even remember much about it.
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Thanks Wes...I really enjoy your replies. I hate it when the typing gets
screwed up in OE like you say above. I have never been able to figure it
out to this day. When it happens, I try everything humanly possible to get
it to show correctly (spacing, backspacing, etc), and it won't. The only
thing that seems to work is to delete everything forward of where you are
(at least in that paragraph), and that doesn't even work sometimes (lol).
It's like the son of bitch remembers what you had before and still puts it
up unevenly spaced, or drops your line, or whatever. Oh well, it only does
it if you hit some keys the wrong way, or go back in the middle of something
to add something, or something else (like the spell check you mentioned).
Never could figure it out, and then you are screwed, unless you want to dump
the whole message and start over :-)).

By the way I told you I always used IE and OE, but I had AO-Hell back in the
earlier years also. I meant to ask you about the animated smileys, like the
lol, in Quote Fix. Do you think that most people on the receiving end would
consider that to aggrevating. The lol feature does kind of get on your
nerves. I know they can disable the emoticons (but I don't see a way of
disabling emoticons within the emoticons - that would be a bit much for a
small free program). I think I will go easy on the lol's.

Damn it I just noticed something else about Quote Fix while typing this,
that is not worth worrying about. If you have a clue let me know -
otherwise NBD. Yesterday, the OE Quote Fix icon was showing up in the icon
tray and going away when exiting like it will if you have it set to hide
when inactive (which it set itself to by default). Today I notice the icon
was missing in the icon tray and I was in OE Quote Fix. I just loaded some
software for my new logitech laser mouse (awesome), but that shouldn't have
anything to do with it.

I immediately did a right click/properties/customize on the tool bar and it
was in there and set to "hide when inactive" in the current items - which is
the way I like things. So I wonder why it didn't show up in the icon tray -
and it was not in the hidden items either (by pointing to the blue circle)
after exiting. I set it to always show and it showed (but that means it
will show even if you are not using it, which I don't want - but it didn't
show when I exited).

Anyway I did some more playing with it and it is back up now in the hide
when inactive, but when you exit OE instead of going inactive (and showing
in the icon tray where you can click on the little blue circle that shows
hidden icons), it goes into the "past icons" in customize. Hmmmmm!. Sorry,
I know that was a mouthful, and If you don't anything about this
"peculiarity", not to worry, it's probably an sp2 thing (esp since Quote fix
goes back to 2003). It seems to be working fine.

It has been a pleasure chatting with you Wes. Sorry for the rambling above
about the damn icon :-) Talk to you later...Pete

PS - Is it only the period that you can't put after the lol's.
 
Pete,

Sometimes I just copy everything from the OE message into Notepad, delete
what's in the OE message, Save, close it, open it again and paste back from
Notepad.

Other times I don't even care.

A pleasure chatting with you too, Pete. Keep having fun.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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