NV gets ass kicked in HL2 benches

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Ben Pope said:
Looking at the thing, their recomendation is to just treat NV35 as Direct3D
8 hardware, and not to run any Direct3D 9 code.


Nah - they'll learn from their mistake and if the next revision is not more
in line with the interfaces so as to increase speed, the one after will be.
They still have a large market share, especially with OEMs, that doesn't
turn around over night - they'll survive... for now.

Ben
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Like already said, this should be highlighted to peeps with the lower end
cards, nvidia shouldn't get away with this, it's corporate fraud. If you
sell something which is supposed to be dx9 then it should bloody well be
dx9, turning settings down to dx8 isn't very good, why bother upgrading
then? you wouldn't, just stick with a geforce 4.....
 
methylenedioxy said:
Like already said, this should be highlighted to peeps with the lower
end cards, nvidia shouldn't get away with this, it's corporate fraud.
If you sell something which is supposed to be dx9 then it should
bloody well be dx9, turning settings down to dx8 isn't very good, why
bother upgrading then? you wouldn't, just stick with a geforce 4.....
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It's not fraud. It does do DirectX9.0

It's just slow at it.

It's no different to having a card that can't process 34 Gazillion texels/s.
There are no specification or warranty on minimum frame rates whilst
performing given operations.

Don't forget that it'll be the game makers turning the options off, IF they
do and probably only by default.

I don't think it's a conspiracy or even wrong. The consumer checks the
benchmarks or otherwise, the consumer makes his decision based on price and
performance and the consumer gets his goods.

Ben
 
methylenedioxy said:
Okay, so where are the benchmarks highlighting these serious issues?
nowhere.So how can the consumer make an informed choice? they
can't.....Nvidia already got caught with their pants down over 3d mark
03........
It's very very misleading and maybe not against any law, but it is
highly unethical.
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Any Pixel Shader test highlights this issue. It's no dirty secret, there's
just little DX9 stuff about.

Ben
 
I think you'll find nVidia are surviving.
They have much deeper pockets than 3dfx had, and are still selling huge
quantities at consumer levels.
Their latest offerings are pretty crap at the top end and their release
cycle has slowed significantly, but I dont think its terminal. A few years
back ATI couldn't turn a trick, and look at them now.
 
Any Pixel Shader test highlights this issue. It's no dirty secret, there's
just little DX9 stuff about.
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It was first shown when 3dmark 2003 came out (pre-"optimizations").
People dismissed that because it was a synthetic benchmark. Tomb
Raider: AOD showed it and people dismissed it saying it wasn't a great
game anyway. With Halo and HL2 coming, these problems aren't going to
just go away.


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Nah - they'll learn from their mistake and if the next revision is not more
in line with the interfaces so as to increase speed, the one after will be.
They still have a large market share, especially with OEMs, that doesn't
turn around over night - they'll survive... for now.
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But they have lost some street cred -- and word will make it to the
masses watching on TV if they don't fix themselves soon.
 
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