Notice of intent to poast pw2004.iso

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Susan said:
ACF has permission from the PW authors to distribute a CD. ACF *doesn't*
have permission to distribute the files individually.

Are you saying that the PW authors have refused permission for the CD
contents to be distributed on a file by file basis?

Also. Who is 'ACF'?
 
jo said:
Susan Bugher wrote:




Are you saying that the PW authors have refused permission for the CD
contents to be distributed on a file by file basis?

No. They weren't asked to give permission.

This was discussed at length a few days ago. See this thread:
Pricelessware CD Updates as at today

Susan
 
jo said:
My suggestion, which I was considering doing myself, would be to post
the files instead of the .iso. Post 'A' one day, 'B' the next etc.
Most on dial up wouldn't go near a 525 MB download.

Hi, jo,

You're an idiot, and you wouldn't suggest such a thing if you didn't
already know the agreed upon distribution methods.
Not only are you an idiot, you are a liar.
 
jo said:
I've not been following the discussions either. It would take an
extraordinary pedant to make any sort of case for not posting
individual files to a.b.f, whilst not objecting to the iso.

*sits back, waiting* :-)

Only an anarchist would apply a pedant label upon someone who agrees to
abide by the licenses of distribution in the PW2004.
 
Hi, jo,

You're an idiot, and you wouldn't suggest such a thing if you didn't
already know the agreed upon distribution methods.
Not only are you an idiot, you are a liar.



Ahhh, typical Ben. Arrogant and a complete jag as usual. If only the rest
of us were so perfect.

Eric
 
jo said:
Hi Ben


Thx for sharing


And why on earth might that be, Ben?


Usenet is so fun and so safe for this sort of thing isn't it, eh,
sonny?

Uh, huh.
You're a coward. Bastard! :)
 
The iso is up currently in alt.binaries.test.yenc
It is 2208 parts it's either complete, or it isn't on your
server.

At a guess I would think that most people would have about .01%
chance of getting/downloading/assembling all 2208 parts. Especially
if they are on dialup.

Anyone here still want the ISO ? If so then I might send it to them
via http://s11.yousendit.com/ to see if it works okay.

I will wait 24 hours to do this. If anyone emails me in that time and
puts "PW 2004 ISO REQUEST" in the header then I will try things out.

I have no guarantee that this will work. That is the whole point of
this exercise. To try it out.

If interested then just remove DELETE off my email address and do
the above.

Regards, John.

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My suggestion, which I was considering doing myself, would be to post
the files instead of the .iso. Post 'A' one day, 'B' the next etc.
Most on dial up wouldn't go near a 525 MB download.

If people want the individual files then they can just go to the PL
site and download whenever they want to.

Regards, John.

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If people want the individual files then they can just go to the PL
site and download whenever they want to.

That would require sitting there for days clicking on each file. It
won't take any longer for a broadband user to download the ISO in, say,
200 sections than 1 so dial-up users can also get it. If it's done right
it shouldn't take more than about 5 minutes to join all those pieces.

"My Name" sounds like he/she may know how this is done but from some of
the suggestions being made I'm not sure everyone else understands the
ins and outs.

The way it usually works goes about like this:

- ISO posted all in one day for those on broadband. Broadband users
provide fills for each other in another group.

- Wait three days. The binaries will be on most servers for this long
so this gives dial-up users a chance to grab a pretty good chunk.

- After the three days are up, re-post the ISO in 50-100 megabyte
chunks over the course of 8 days. This allows broadband users to
fill any still-missing pieces that nobody will post, and also allows
dial-up users a fair chance to finish. Usually it's up to dial-up
users to post fills for each other in another group.

- Unless it's a broadband group, nobody but the original poster should
try to repost fills to the original posting groups until everything
has scrolled off. Otherwise you might push off parts of the original
post before they otherwise would have expired.

ISP's vary the amount of storage allocated to different binary
newsgroups. If you post 500 megabytes to a newsgroup that has only been
allocated 400 megabytes of storage by some downstream ISP, then not only
do 100 megabytes of your own files get dropped but you push everyone
else's files out and they get royally p*ssed. The usual retailiation is
that every time you try to post the rest of your ISO, they'll get even
by posting enough megabytes to push *your* files into the bit bucket.

So, unless you're posting strictly to high-bandwidth newsgroups, you
need to limit the post to about 50-100 megabytes per day anyway.
However, Usenet is an unreliable medium and the larger the file the
greater the chances that it'll get corrupted in transit. Files of 5-15
megabytes work out about right. This is also a convenient size for
dial-up users. The smaller filesize also avoids wasting Usenet bandwidth
because if part of the data is corrupted, you only have to repost a 5-15
megabyte file instead of 100 megabytes.
 
Well! That's just uncalled for! :)

<gasp!!!>

Sometimes name calling escalates beyond all decency! Where's the shame?

I gotta confess that I keep a couple of names handy in case I get trounced.
"snark" and "trout sniffer" only come out when I desperate. ;)

Bob

Remove "kins" to reply by e-mail.
 
Bob Adkins said:
<gasp!!!>

Sometimes name calling escalates beyond all decency! Where's the
shame?

I gotta confess that I keep a couple of names handy in case I get
trounced. "snark" and "trout sniffer" only come out when I desperate.
;)

Ha! :)

Bob, you owe me a keyboard.
 
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