Norton UAC Tool for Vista

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Now they have lost their ammunition.

We just need enough ammunition to have MS acknowledged the dissatisfaction
and to improve which they did on several occasions including the latest one.
Isn't it good for ALL Windows users including those rather to blind
themselves by turning face away?

Progress can be made much easier and faster if people have the courage to
see the shortcomings.

Thanks for the information though.


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I am not saying where it would be good for. I am just saying it is
available.

There have been thousands grousing about Vista over the past year and one
half because of UAC

Now they have lost their ammunition.

Use this tool, or not. It's is the individuals choice.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


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This might be useful if an user doesn't have rights to use the printer,
but
using this regular is just a threat on the security.

I think that this should be used to fix small issues as stated above, for
a
big amount of pop-ups it will just have the same effect as turning them
off.



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I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881


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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
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DDW said:
I'm using the standard Admin-enabled account.
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With UAC disabled? That's not a good idea. I use admin account for running
apps and playing games etc. but not when I connect to the internet. I switch
to limited user account when going online. In admin account I am offline
usually so not much to worry about and don't need UAC.
 
It's a nice try. However, you're wasting your time with this one. He and
others *must* run with full admin rights on Vista, well as much as the
user/admin account out of the box on Vista has full admin rights, which
doesn't match the the full admin rights of the built-in Administrator
user account.

You have some people that believe that they are so good
that the can run on the Internet with UAC disable with full admin
rights, just like they had it on XP.

They have their 3rd party personal firewall with snake-oil Application
Control and other such snake-oil malware detection solutions running
telling them every thing is okey-dokey their *security blanket*, when
malware has circumvented every last bit of the snake-oil, and they don't
even know it. Nor do they even know how to check the machine with other
tools manually.

They are that good.
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Yes, it's sad, really.
 
Gee..9 years with 100% smooth sailing?
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16-17 years, approx. The 9 was before XP was released - it was
released 7 years ago.

Never installed a "freeware" app and then find a new 'search bar" the next time you fired up IE?
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Nope.
 
With UAC disabled? That's not a good idea.
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That's how I'm running as well... online or off. Switching to Vista
in May didn't suddenly change the online environment that I've been
surfing so successfully the past umpteen years (since before Mosaic).
 
I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I'm a little leery. The only way I
can think of to do this is by hacking some system files. This leaves the
user open to a couple of problems. Windows update may break it. It's another
vector for malware to attack.

It looks very interesting and I certainly intend to try it. Does anyone know
how it actually works?
 
Little Charlie said:
Gee..9 years with 100% smooth sailing? Never installed a "freeware" app
and then find a new 'search bar"
the next time you fired up IE? The Google archives are chock-full of
pre -UAC / pre-Vista (Windows XP)clamoring about uninvited and unasked for
and totally unexpected "applications" suddenly running in task manager.
Since virtually no one reads the EULA for any app that asks you to "agree"
or "not agree" many,many so-called freeware and some shareware and even
some pay-for apps have insidious "piggy-back" applications that are
installed by default since you "agreed" to the EULA that no one ever
reads. With Vista UAC these piggy-back apps and all the other unwanted
crapola are subject to user approval. It is a safeguard...so is putting on
a rubber. Maybe inconvenient but necessary in this "mean old world" that
is full of deception, cyber-poison, lies, and fraud. I like UAC and have
long thought a white list feature was needed. Apparently so did Norton. I
like it and encourage others to leave UAC turned on. Bill Gates is not
insulting your geekdom by enforcing a default UAC component in Vista. It
is a cyber prophylactic.

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Little Charlie
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=861653
"Destroy your EGO and your ART will flourish"
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Well put, Charlie!
Lesley
 
I like UAC and have long thought a white list feature was needed.
Apparently so did Norton.
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Allow me to write the last post before leaving the group for a while,

The irony of this UAC saga is that similar ideas were proposed right here
(in addition to other places) more than once by more than one people during
late beta and early release days, and they were defeated, bashed, and of
course, flamed (e.g. MS hater, basher, and don't want to use Vista, etc.).

Symantec now puts the idea into a utility and it will not be a surprise for
MS to adopt similar idea and release with SP2, if not, Windows 7.

While people enjoy the improved feature, some of them will not appreciate
those who came out the ideas and put it into use, but would say, it's about
time for people to stop hating Vista.

When the next great idea comes out, the same kind of people will jump over
and try to kill it as they have always been doing. Hopefully, that great
idea can survive as this one.

Industry experts and gurus have been warning the diminishing return of
information technologies for some years, and how could IT progress when
people with a closed mind like this.
 
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Industry experts and gurus have been warning the diminishing return of
information technologies for some years, and how could IT progress when
people with a closed mind like this.
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LOL.
Industry experts !
You mean the same f*cking experts that ran the economy into the ground ?

LOL !

You people do know that usually "experts" are people with a stake in said
"expertise".
It's a fuggin joke.
Think for yourselves !
I do.

Oh, and all you people who listened to experts !
I'll buy your house for 45 cents on the dollar !
LOL !

Then rent it to you !
 
LOL.
Industry experts !
You mean the same f*cking experts that ran the economy into the ground ?

LOL !

You people do know that usually "experts" are people with a stake in said
"expertise".
It's a fuggin joke.
Think for yourselves !
I do.
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Really? You think? About what, having sex with sheep like Frank dreams
about?
Oh, and all you people who listened to experts !
I'll buy your house for 45 cents on the dollar !
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Hmm... an observation. Only two idiots add LOL! to their posts
excessively. You and Frank. Interesting.
 
Ringmaster said:
Really? You think? About what, having sex with sheep like Frank dreams
about?

Hmm... an observation. Only two idiots add LOL! to their posts
excessively. You and Frank. Interesting.
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Want me to buy your house ?
I'll give you $150K...cash.
Right now.

Yes, I do notice small players like you find measly little issues to bark
about...but really...that's not putting money in you r pocket.

I'll give you $150,000 for your little pigpen.

You can move in to a tent with the proceeds and feed that fat ass you waddle
around in.
 
Paul Montgomery said:
That's how I'm running as well... online or off. Switching to Vista
in May didn't suddenly change the online environment that I've been
surfing so successfully the past umpteen years (since before Mosaic).
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Yea, but I ran with limited user permissions when online before Vista too
though. I still run 2 copies of XP and both use limited user accounts when
online. That is how the OS is meant to be run and is how all Linux OS are
setup too. Well, Ubuntu uses a setup similar to Vista but that is besides
the point. The reason we ended up with UAC in the first place is because
people like you refused to setup the OS properly and use a limited user
account for doing every day tasks. I hold you personally responsible for the
blight of UAC. ;) Now I can't elevate to admin access in limited user
account unless I turn on UAC. In that respect Vista is worse for me than XP
because in XP I just need to supply the admin password to get elevated to
admin level. I can't do that on Vista without UAC also being on.
 
I fell for it because the potential rewards were so enticing.

After the install about three programs quit working properly after I
rebooted my laptop. I thought "no problem - I will just un-install and
reinstall them". Two of them would not un-install normally. All three still
did not work after messing around and getting them re-installed. Going back
to the restore point I created B4 installing the Norton program did not help.

Thank god I create a computer image once a week. I backed up all my data,
restored to my last image, restored my data and life is good but what a PITA
that was.

I know, I know. I should know better but like I said the potential reward
was very enticing.

The three programs it messed up:

The Weather Channel Desktop.
CCleaner
Snagit 8
 
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