Norton UAC Tool for Vista

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Richard Urban said:
I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881


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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
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Hi Richard,

Good news for x86 users. Us poor x64 freaks will have to do without :( No
x64 support.
 
This might be useful if an user doesn't have rights to use the printer, but
using this regular is just a threat on the security.

I think that this should be used to fix small issues as stated above, for a
big amount of pop-ups it will just have the same effect as turning them off.
 
I am not saying where it would be good for. I am just saying it is
available.

There have been thousands grousing about Vista over the past year and one
half because of UAC

Now they have lost their ammunition.

Use this tool, or not. It's is the individuals choice.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


in message
This might be useful if an user doesn't have rights to use the printer,
but
using this regular is just a threat on the security.

I think that this should be used to fix small issues as stated above, for
a
big amount of pop-ups it will just have the same effect as turning them
off.



in message
I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881


--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
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This might be useful if an user doesn't have rights to use the printer, but
using this regular is just a threat on the security.
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If you don't like that little tool, then you'll hate this: I have UAC
completely OFF and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I think that this should be used to fix small issues as stated above, for a
big amount of pop-ups it will just have the same effect as turning them off.



in message
I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881


--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
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Thank you. :-)

in message
I am not saying where it would be good for. I am just saying it is
available.

There have been thousands grousing about Vista over the past year and one
half because of UAC

Now they have lost their ammunition.

Use this tool, or not. It's is the individuals choice.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


in message
This might be useful if an user doesn't have rights to use the printer,
but
using this regular is just a threat on the security.

I think that this should be used to fix small issues as stated above, for
a
big amount of pop-ups it will just have the same effect as turning them
off.



in message
I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881


--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
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in message
If you don't like that little tool, then you'll hate this: I have UAC
completely OFF and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Wow! Living on the edge, aren't we? I'm doing you one better.
On my 64 bit Vista Ultimate I've invoked the hidden, full system
rights, administrator account, and use that exclusively. You
should try it - no UAC prompts, or other annoyances.

One thing that bugs me is that running Vista with UAC is a big,
"No, no," but running XP is fully acceptable, even though
Vista, with UAC off, is probably still more secure than XP.
 
Richard Urban said:
I normally don't do this, and I have *never* recommended "anything" from
Norton/Symantec - but - I have installed this on a test box and it does
exactly as it states. It builds a white list of UAC prompts that you can
"Allow Always".

Read about it and download it from Beta News here:
http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Norton_Vista_tool_trades_UAC_for_online_feedback/1223668881
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If it came from the Norton chamber of horrors then it won't get installed on
my PC. I use Vista64 anyway and UAC is not an issue for me because I have
disabled it and set up a limited user account for when I am on the internet.
 
Ian D said:
Wow! Living on the edge, aren't we?
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Not if you are smart and setup a limited user account for when you are on
the internet. I disabled UAC but still have PGP.
 
Little Charlie said:
IMHO having UAC turned off is tantamount to driving down the worst road
you can find and purposely leaving your spare tire at home. Flirting with
disaster. Remember how many times with XP rogue apps would get full
unfettered permission to load and execute? Leave UAC on....do you also
practice unprotected sex? same same.
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Not if you turn it off and setup a limited user account for when you are
doing things where a condom is recommended.
 
Rotten Ronny said:
If it came from the Norton chamber of horrors then it won't get installed
on my PC. I use Vista64 anyway and UAC is not an issue for me because I
have disabled it and set up a limited user account for when I am on the
internet.
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Well, if you knew anything about UAC, then you would know that user/admin on
Vista has two access tokens assigned to it. One access token is for admin
full rights. The other token assigned is Standard rights , which is the
default.

So you are user/admin with only Standard user rights to begin with until the
moment of privileged escalation, and then user/admin is escalated to use the
admin full rights token at the moment of escalation, and then, user/admin is
returned to the standard user token. So, you're Standard user with UAC
enabled 99.9% of the time it would seem.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

If anyone cares to read the links, one would see that there is more going on
behind the scene with UAC to protect the O/S other than some user approving
or disapproving something at a prompt.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx
 
Rotten Ronny said:
Not if you turn it off and setup a limited user account for when you are
doing things where a condom is recommended.
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or use WinPatrol which alerts you to most nasties wishing to install
themselves..


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I have UAC completely OFF and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
¡E User Account Control
¡E Image management
¡E Display Driver Model
¡E Search
¡E 64 bit architecture
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...86-9661-49b1-87ce-6d4a39e83747&DisplayLang=en

User Account Control Step-by-Step Guide.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

Understanding and Configuring User Account Control in Windows Vista.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709628.aspx

You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is disabled,
then Run As Administrator is disabled too.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx

The is the only user account that has full admin access at all times.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...idden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/

You should read the about the *benefits* of using the Administrator
account.
http://www.computerperformance.co.u...a_Administrator_-_Super_User_(Hidden_Account)
 
If you watch what you dowload, why do you need UAC?
If YOU don't download it, it won't be requesting to connect to the Internet.
UAC is to protect idiots.
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Little Charlie said:
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Wow! Living on the edge, aren't we? I'm doing you one better.
On my 64 bit Vista Ultimate I've invoked the hidden, full system
rights, administrator account, and use that exclusively. You
should try it - no UAC prompts, or other annoyances.

One thing that bugs me is that running Vista with UAC is a big,
"No, no," but running XP is fully acceptable, even though
Vista, with UAC off, is probably still more secure than XP.
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Yeah, "no annoyances" like "trojan-xyz.exe is requesting permission to access the internet"
No UAC is a very "penny wise pound foolish" practice.

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"Destroy your EGO and your ART will flourish"
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It's a nice try. However, you're wasting your time with this one. He and
others *must* run with full admin rights on Vista, well as much as the
user/admin account out of the box on Vista has full admin rights, which
doesn't match the the full admin rights of the built-in Administrator
user account.

You have some people that believe that they are so good
that the can run on the Internet with UAC disable with full admin
rights, just like they had it on XP.

They have their 3rd party personal firewall with snake-oil Application
Control and other such snake-oil malware detection solutions running
telling them every thing is okey-dokey their *security blanket*, when
malware has circumvented every last bit of the snake-oil, and they don't
even know it. Nor do they even know how to check the machine with other
tools manually.

They are that good.
 
IMHO having UAC turned off is tantamount to driving down the worst road you can find and purposely leaving your spare tire at home. Flirting with disaster. Remember how many times with XP rogue apps would get full unfettered permission to load and execute?
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Never happened to ME. Not then, and not during the 9 years prior to
the arrival of XP.
 
Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
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[snip]

I understand them, but I'm not a freaking idiot.

I am more than protected should the unthinkable happen - which has yet
to happen in 17 years online without Vista and its UAC.

And I just don't LIKE UAC... PERIOD.
 
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