Non IE based MYIE2 equivalent ?

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Firebird (with all the bells and whistles and homepage) 6 secs.
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Just set your home page to about:blank.

Firebird has an issue with slow recovery from being minimized. Here is a
simple tweak to improve that.

Find the file prefs.js in the tree Windows>Application Data>Phoenix>, open
it with Notepad, and add this line.

user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 4096);

Save it and you're done.
 
Trying to get a word in edge-wise "donutbandit" wrote in
Just set your home page to about:blank.

Firebird has an issue with slow recovery from being minimized. Here is a
simple tweak to improve that.

Find the file prefs.js in the tree Windows>Application Data>Phoenix>, open
it with Notepad, and add this line.

user_pref("browser.cache.memory.capacity", 4096);

Save it and you're done.
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Just did as you said and blank page starts at the same speed as my
homepage.
What I meant in my post was that even with everything running I thought
it was pretty fast compared to my old IE setup. I wanted to give the OP
a comparison to go by in case he changed over. Thanks anyway. I doesn't
hurt to try something new. Isn't that why we're here? :)
 
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:28:59 -0500, Randy Bard
But then, on a slow Saturday morning, I downloaded Mozilla Firebird on
a whim, and it was love at first sight. I believe this browser
deserves the title "Freeware Application of the Year." It does almost
everything I might desire by default. It has really been quite
enjoyable to uninstall all the popup blockers, cookie managers,
password managers, and form-filler-outers I have accumulated to make
I.E. functional, and I am looking forward to getting rid of I.E.
altogether.

On my machine Firebird is a bit slower to load initially, then it
transitions from page to page with lightning speed. Plus, I no longer
have to look at any advertising at all , by following the simple
expedient in the options, "Load images from originating web page
only." The popups are, of course, eliminated by default.

I really recommend that everyone try this browser, no matter what you
have been using.
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I have just started to use Firebird and must say I tend to agree.

The large variety of plug-ins and extensions take a bit of time to
sort through to see which you might need though, although worth it in
the end.
 
Has anybody introduced a non-IE, tabbed browser that has the same sort
of features as the paid-for IE shell "iRider"?

(I'm thinking particularly of (a) background loading assigned to a
single-click mouse button;
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This one's doable with TBE.


and (b) tabs structured in a tree so that
you can close one tab, or all tabs related to a single site, or all
open tabs with a single click or keyboard command.)
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TBE with tab groups does this I believe. Seriously the TBE extension
does so much, almost every conceivable option to do with tab browsing is
there if you take the time to do.
I'd very much like to find that level of manipulation in a non-IE
browser.
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Given that tab browsing started with non-IE browsers, this is a given :)



Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
thanks for info.I havent tried firebird,though i have tried opera very
recently and mozilla over a year ago.Its a hobby of mine to try
different programmes so i will indeed try firebird.Ive never used
cookie blockers as i believe ie6s own cookie blocker is probably the
best anyway,
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Mozilla's cookie blocker is even "better", if you are looking for lots of
options. Firebird is similar but lacks the P3P standards for cookie
management that IE 6 and mozilla has
and ads popups are blocked within myie itself.
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Well, nowdays you would be hard pressed to find a browser that didn't do
this.


Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
On 24 Nov 2003, Aaron wrote
This one's doable with TBE.
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I'm trying it out; that's good to find.

and (b) tabs structured in a tree so that

TBE with tab groups does this I believe. Seriously the TBE
extension does so much, almost every conceivable option to do with
tab browsing is there if you take the time to do.
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I'm trying it, but I can't seem to find a tree display option for the
open tabs -- just the tab bar itself (which displays open tabs as a
horizontal string).

What I was hoping for was a side-bar display of the tabs, in a tree
structure. When I have, say, a couple of dozen pages open -- which I
often do -- I find it incredibly useful to know how they relate to one
another. (That is, not only which ones belong to the top level of any
given group, but to sub-levels within that group.)

Am I missing some way to display the tabs in a tree? (I don't mean a
history display: I mean the current open tabs, and only the current
open tabs.)
Given that tab browsing started with non-IE browsers, this is a
given :)
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Well, it's not....ektchelly....at least, so far I've only found it in a
(non-freeware) IE browser shell, and not in an actual non-IE browser.
 
Am I missing some way to display the tabs in a tree? (I don't mean a
history display: I mean the current open tabs, and only the current
open tabs.)
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Wow! A dozen open tabs? I wish I were smart enough to keep track of that
many. :-)

I use MyIE2, and the "groups" feature it uniquely provides.

When I open my "Sports" group, about 6 sports-related tabs open, and all
previous tabs close. When I open my "Freeware" group, all the "Sports" tabs
close and 5 or 6 Freeware site tabs open. I am totally spoiled by this
feature, and can't do without it. If Firebird had this feature, I would give
it a serious look.

Bob
 
On 24 Nov 2003, Bob Adkins wrote
Wow! A dozen open tabs? I wish I were smart enough to keep track
of that many. :-)
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Yeah, right.... :)

The reason I wind up with that many open -- or a lot more, sometimes --
is that I use a lot of archival research sites. Once I've done an
initial search and am presented with, say, 482 links, I click on the
first 6 or so, and let them open in the background.

Once I'm reading the first, I'll usually open a few more links from
that secondary page, and ditto on the next page, and so on.

I keep them all open, since as soon as I close one, that's *bound* to
be the link I need to re-open to check on/compare something. Once that
happens, a tree display is the only way I can keep track of what site
belongs to where.

(The IE shell I've wound up using not only displays the tabs in a tree,
but gives an adjustable-size thumb-nail of each page. Again, with a
lot of tabs open, I find a small snapshot more useful than just the URL
of each page.)
I use MyIE2, and the "groups" feature it uniquely provides.
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When I open my "Sports" group, about 6 sports-related tabs open,
and all previous tabs close. When I open my "Freeware" group, all
the "Sports" tabs close and 5 or 6 Freeware site tabs open.
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Ah: horses and courses -- that action wouldn't suit my browsing
habits. I like group opening -- my daily selection of comics and a
group with news/weather/geek-news etc. -- but I don't want one group to
close when the next opens. (It's undoubtedly a configurable thing,
though.)
 
group with news/weather/geek-news etc. -- but I don't want one group to
close when the next opens.
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It's a must for me. I only have a 17" monitor at 1024, and there's only room
for about 7-8 tabs across my screen. :(

Bob
 
On 24 Nov 2003, Bob Adkins wrote
It's a must for me. I only have a 17" monitor at 1024, and there's
only room for about 7-8 tabs across my screen. :(
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I think that's why I like the "visual tree" form of tabs, in a side-
bar, so much -- even with a 19" monitor (also at 1024), a horizontal
row of tabs soon becomes indecipherable.
 
Just curious...whats wrong with using myie and ie engine?.Ie is as
safe as any browser with the right options applied e.g you dont
have to run active x or javascript or have auto downloads but the
options are there if you need them.
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From a user perspective:
You have to practically cripple the browser to get rid of security
issues or pure annoying behaviour. An example that immidately comes to
mind is all the awful ways IE allows windows to be manipulated; the
only way to stop this is to disable "active scripting" completely.

From a developer perspective:
IE's renderer is anything but ... good. It has a large share of buggy,
weird or just wrong ways of doing this. An example is how IE handles
the CSS box model -- it's so ridiculous I really don't want to think
about it.

With IE, you miss out on a lot of good stuff, but you get a lot of bad
stuff in return.

Tone
 
Has anybody introduced a non-IE, tabbed browser that has the same
sort of features as the paid-for IE shell "iRider"?
Click to expand...
(I'm thinking particularly of (a) background loading assigned to a
single-click mouse button;
Click to expand...

Firebird does this. Opera can do this.
and (b) tabs structured in a tree so that you can close one tab,
or all tabs related to a single site, or all open tabs with a
single click or keyboard command.)
Click to expand...

Never seen a tree structure as such, but Phoenix had something called
"tab grouping" which allowed you to manipulate related tabs as, well, a
group. I'm not sure if this survived through to Firebird, if it has
become an extention, or what.

It is a very nice feature, and one I miss from time to time, but this
feature alone is not enough to make or break a browser for me.

Tone
 
From a user perspective:
You have to practically cripple the browser to get rid of security
issues or pure annoying behaviour. An example that immidately comes to
mind is all the awful ways IE allows windows to be manipulated; the
only way to stop this is to disable "active scripting" completely.

From a developer perspective:
IE's renderer is anything but ... good. It has a large share of buggy,
weird or just wrong ways of doing this. An example is how IE handles
the CSS box model -- it's so ridiculous I really don't want to think
about it.

With IE, you miss out on a lot of good stuff, but you get a lot of bad
stuff in return.

Tone
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I cant speak from a developers point of view , but from a user
perspective (of which im one),i think practically crippling the browser
is a little over the top.For instance all the scripting options /activex
options can be set to prompt giving the user choice and flexibility to
deny or accept.Using myie (ie engine) i persoanlly have never experienced
any annoyances at all browsing this way and havent had any security
issues either.
me
 
donutbandit said:
If you ask a computer security expert how to make your Windows box more
secure, 9 times out of 10 the first thing he will tell you to get rid of
Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. But this is advice that most people
don't want to listen to.
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And what about those programs, often not connecting to internet,
using IE resources - maybe rendering or so.
(e.g. HTML Help ) ?

I am afraid some of them will stop working
after IE would be "IEradicated" ....
 
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