NO CD Key for vista

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I knew somebody was going to pick up on Word. That's why I was careful to
say Office. Remember Microsoft Multiplan? In 1983 my favs were Multiplan,
WordStar, and DB2 (there never was a DB1). I just couldn't afford Lotus
1-2-3 at the time.
 
How do I get a key? the first time I did not print the screen the 2nd time
I did print it but no key was printed ou just a yellow box ????
and now it tells me I have recive d the max keys allowed?

and all thi s after I cleand out a H D just for vista an d had to burn
the dam dvd 4 times before it would work now I cant get a key to try
it out#@!@#

ANd I have recive d no e-mails from ms witha key in it! Checked Hotmail online?

Yet another BLANK UP from Microsoft when will we learn?

Screw Microsoft I am going to install linux mandrake V10.1 on that HD I
cleaned out...I dont have time to play there games I have wasted enough
time all ready...
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Go ahead install Mandrake, that will be a good laugh you can't even
write down a CD key you are going to have a nightmare with Mandrake.
SuSE is eassier but still demands intelignce and experience.
Wish I had $$ for a MAC then I could trash MS once and for all!!!!!
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Best option for you - get a MAC they are ok.

Jonah
 
1983 I bought an Apple Lisa with the 7/7 software suite: Write, Draw, List,
Calc all loaded, along with the O/S, on a 10MB hard drive. 2400 baud modem,
GUI with a mouse, ImageWriter printer, the whole shebang! Cost $5000.
Still have it. Still works.


I knew somebody was going to pick up on Word. That's why I was careful to
say Office. Remember Microsoft Multiplan? In 1983 my favs were Multiplan,
WordStar, and DB2 (there never was a DB1). I just couldn't afford Lotus
1-2-3 at the time.
 
Colin Barnhorst said:
Microsoft Office debuted on Mac. It came to the PC second. While that is
just a triva question now some 15 years later, it is not fair to say
business apps are crapola. This "my computer is better than your
computer" stuff is immature.
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Well, ensuring compatibility between different Office versions has always
required additional effort... on Macs or PCs. To say Mac is crap when
discussing office-type business apps is like saying open source is
irrelevant. It's an emotional stance with little practical assessment.

Dave
 
They are OK. But just OK. My MacBook Pro is interesting. Also runs very
hot. I leave it on at night and in the morning I pour waffle batter over
the keyboard and slam the lid down. Two minutes later I am surfing the net
and eating breakfast.

Now, if only I can figure out how to get the indentations on both sides....
 
Daibidh said:
Well, ensuring compatibility between different Office versions has always
required additional effort... on Macs or PCs. To say Mac is crap when
discussing office-type business apps is like saying open source is
irrelevant. It's an emotional stance with little practical assessment.

Dave
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You might have a point. After all, 3 percent of the world's computing
population can't be wrong.

Joe
 
Joe727 said:
You might have a point. After all, 3 percent of the world's computing
population can't be wrong.
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*laugh* Like I said, emotional. Safety in numbers, eh?
 
If your hard drive(s) are SATA then you have to load the drivers when
installing. Search through the forum for how to's on that.

Vista will set up a rudimentary boot manager that will give you a dual-boot
scenario.
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no not on this older system they are PATA but I have a 3rd party HD
controller so I could use drives bigger than 160gigs ....

Can I use the xp drivers for it?

Thanks on the info about the multi-boot did not know if vista would do
that...
 
Colin Barnhorst said:
The last Windows installed will be the default (but can be changed) because
Setup makes it the default so that the reboots during installation will boot
the right system and installation can continue. You can set a new default
with VistaBootPro and use more descriptive names than "Windows".
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Thanks for the info now I just have to know if I can us e the same xp pro
driver s for my PATA HD controller ....
 
That number is a cold, hard, fact.
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*Big Friendly Grin*

Oh, that much is certain. I'm just saying those of us who actually USE Macs
on a regular basis know there are some things that just don't reflect the
market share realities. Why did VHS win out over BetaMax? Sure VHS had
longer available record times but Beta had a superior picture. Quantity
over quality? Dumb luck or dumb public? I think marketing historians have
over analyzed that one from every conceivable angle for years. So why the
meteoric rise of Windows? Was OS/2 and the MacIntosh really gigantic pieces
of crapola? Maybe one was poorly marketed and the other wholly overpriced?
*laughing* Market share does not always reflect "better" which, by the way,
is still a highly subjective frame of mind.

To say something is crap just because it doesn't embody seamless
compatibility is silly. Those of us accustomed to mixed environments know
the little ins and outs to the whole file format/macro mess. You do realize
that's exactly how Microsoft intended it to be, right? You see it even
within Windows versions of their software. Designed obsolescence; why else
would we buy into the whole "endless upgrades" concept? This is why
Microsoft was so resistant to the OpenDocument format.

We all know the competitive model always works out best in the long run. I
am gratified to see the inroads the Linux operation system has made in
recent years. The concept of choice is slowly returning to the PC
consciousness. Apple's decision to cross the processor divide has brought
increased performance, more competitive prices, and a greater sense of
familiarity to the point where PC die-hards are actually contemplating the
possibility. Linux and Mac have been keen to capitalize on function and
form, respectively. Throw into the mix an ever increasing interest in open
source standards and you might just have a critical mass situation where the
"alternatives" actually gain an influential foot hold.

With the sizable resources of Microsoft and the innovative pressures of some
actual competition, I foresee a bright future for consumers. Vista has the
potential to combine the compatibility and familiarity of the Windows OS
with the elegance of OSX and the perceived security of Unix/Linux. That
would certainly shut the competition up. I've been pleased so far in this
Beta but I'm thinking it really hasn't gone far enough... yet. I do have my
fingers crossed.

Dave
 
Colin Barnhorst said:
Well at least you have a working Product Key. You need to supply a hard
drive controller driver using the Load Drivers button on the setup screen.
You need to find the software for your computer and find the driver that
came with it (or with the motherboard if you put the system together
yourself).
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Yes I know how to do that ...I just was not sure if I could use xp pro
drivers for my HD controller card ...But from what u said It sounds like I
can ..so tomarow I will give it a try...I work nights so it s all most
time to get some sleep.

PS Thanks to every one for the help..sorry if I first sounded like a
crazy person ..this has just not been a good week.......

I hope buy this time SUN to be running vista....

Thanks again for your info.
 
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Well first I was kind out of it the other day sorry....

I signed up witha different e-mail to get they key and pasted it to a txt
file this time...

and no I use knology as my high speed provider and there e-mail service
and allso gmail...

I did try to install it on my other system..the one "not used for anything
important" it has a older MB that I had to install a adaptech IDE
controller so I could use 200 gig HD's and bigger on it.

I tried to install vista on the 2nd HD 120gigs all free space formated
with NTFS

But it told me that drivers needed to boot the system could not be found
and I was unsure if I could use the same xp drivers, but other users have
said I can so I will give it a try when I get home tomarow.

Thanks
 
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Go ahead install Mandrake, that will be a good laugh you can't even
write down a CD key you are going to have a nightmare with Mandrake.
SuSE is eassier but still demands intelignce and experience.
Best option for you - get a MAC they are ok.
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I would love to try out the Mac OS X but they just cost way to much ...

I did get a CD Key for vist buy signing up with a new E-mail address...

I have xp on my 2nd pc it s on a 200gig HD

I plan to install vista on the 2nd HD 120 gigs and I will install
Mandrake on the 3rd HD it s just 60 gigs but thats way big for linux.

I did look at linux Mandrake way back when it fit on 2cd's plus a 3rd for
the apps.

And I do plan to mess with it again.. Linux i s a lot like a old OS I
use to have on my Tandy color computer it was called OS9 it was a
version of unix , and it woked well on the Color computers 68B09E CPU buy
Motorola ..

I was multi tasking on OS9 way back when a PC with a 80286 CPU 1 meg of
ram and a very large 40meg HD was 5000.00$

But any way Vista comes first and if I have time I will get around to
Mandrake.

PS I have XP on my c drive I plan to put Vista onthe d: drive and linux
Mandrake on the e: drive that should work in that order should it not?
 
Daibidh said:
*Big Friendly Grin*

Oh, that much is certain. I'm just saying those of us who actually USE
Macs on a regular basis know there are some things that just don't reflect
the market share realities. Why did VHS win out over BetaMax? Sure VHS
had longer available record times but Beta had a superior picture.
Quantity over quality? Dumb luck or dumb public? I think marketing
historians have over analyzed that one from every conceivable angle for
years. So why the meteoric rise of Windows? Was OS/2 and the MacIntosh
really gigantic pieces of crapola? Maybe one was poorly marketed and the
other wholly overpriced? *laughing* Market share does not always reflect
"better" which, by the way, is still a highly subjective frame of mind.

To say something is crap just because it doesn't embody seamless
compatibility is silly. Those of us accustomed to mixed environments know
the little ins and outs to the whole file format/macro mess. You do
realize that's exactly how Microsoft intended it to be, right? You see it
even within Windows versions of their software. Designed obsolescence;
why else would we buy into the whole "endless upgrades" concept? This is
why Microsoft was so resistant to the OpenDocument format.

We all know the competitive model always works out best in the long run.
I am gratified to see the inroads the Linux operation system has made in
recent years. The concept of choice is slowly returning to the PC
consciousness. Apple's decision to cross the processor divide has brought
increased performance, more competitive prices, and a greater sense of
familiarity to the point where PC die-hards are actually contemplating the
possibility. Linux and Mac have been keen to capitalize on function and
form, respectively. Throw into the mix an ever increasing interest in
open source standards and you might just have a critical mass situation
where the "alternatives" actually gain an influential foot hold.

With the sizable resources of Microsoft and the innovative pressures of
some actual competition, I foresee a bright future for consumers. Vista
has the potential to combine the compatibility and familiarity of the
Windows OS with the elegance of OSX and the perceived security of
Unix/Linux. That would certainly shut the competition up. I've been
pleased so far in this Beta but I'm thinking it really hasn't gone far
enough... yet. I do have my fingers crossed.

Dave
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What part of my business-oriented experience with a Mac don't you
understand?

Joe
 
Except that the competition you refer to has an element of anti-MS that will
never concede the points you make. It doesn't matter that I run OS/X and XP
on my MacBook Pro. My son-in-law still calls me names for doing it.
 
They are OK. But just OK. My MacBook Pro is interesting. Also runs very
hot. I leave it on at night and in the morning I pour waffle batter over
the keyboard and slam the lid down. Two minutes later I am surfing the net
and eating breakfast.
Click to expand...

That remindes me of the first P4's they where hot enough to fry eggs on.
Well your wrong I can wright down a Key man..But I had printed it out
not kning MS will not let you print out the key..why I do not know..

But as I stated I was out of it the other day...

But after Vista I am installing mandrake on the 3rd HD a 60 gig but I
need to get Vista working first 1 OS at a Time :-) but thanks for
your help .
 
Daibidh said:
*Big Friendly Grin*

Oh, that much is certain. I'm just saying those of us who actually USE Macs
on a regular basis know there are some things that just don't reflect the
market share realities. Why did VHS win out over BetaMax? Sure VHS had
longer available record times but Beta had a superior picture. Quantity
over quality? Dumb luck or dumb public? I think marketing historians have
over analyzed that one from every conceivable angle for years. So why the
meteoric rise of Windows? Was OS/2 and the MacIntosh really gigantic pieces
of crapola?
Click to expand...

To extend your comparison of VHS vs Beta, the real competition was not
between MS-DOS and OS/2 which was partly written by Microsoft and came along
several years later, but between MS-DOS and CPM-86. Everyone that I knew
who had an IBM PC said the same thing, that they were going to get CPM-86
because it was a better operating system, but that they were going to get it
later because it cost over $200.00, and in the meantime they had gotten
MS-DOS because it was only $60.00. None of those people, as far as I know,
ever got CPM-86.

Interestigly, Microsoft had gotten MS-DOS from another Seattle software
company who had created it by using a software tool to translate the cpm
intel 8080 8 bit machine language into intel 16 bit machine language. Then
they went in by hand and made the necessary changes to get it to work.

This resulted in the CPM copyright statement being in MS-DOS 2.0.

Todd
 
The MBP is no toy. XP runs faster on it than on any of my P4 machines. And
thats both natively or under Parallels virtualization.
 
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