New Windows Defender, ver 1347 out

[Guest]

only clean up. too much free time. hehe
jim
====================================
:
Wierd--the site claims that both those files are the same version.

I would STRONGLY recomment not getting Microsoft files from a non-microsoft
source such as that site. "free of charge"--indeed. When has Microsoft
charged for that file? It's risky getting Microsoft code from a
non-Microsoft source.

If you are still in a mood for experimentation, you might see whether
there's such a file in:

\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50215

and consider moving it there for a test.
--------------------------------------
Bill:
I've tried putting mvscr80.dll from
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr80 in
c:\windows\system32 by that was not the sollution; defender couldn't find an
entry point in that dll.

Well, what the... i've downloaded from
http://www.down-dll.com/index.html?frameA=dll_M and put the DLL in
c:\windows\system32, installed 1347 and now it runs.

Only worry now is a remark someone from microsoft made: msvcr80.dll
shouldn't be in system32. Anyway defender problem fixed. Thanks Bill.

Hiek.
===========================
:
Thanks--I thought you must be on SP2, otherwise things wouldn't be working.
At this point, I suspect that the DLL you need to replace is the one
associated with .NET 2.0--so reinstalling that seems the best way to go--is
that something you want to try?
----------------------------------
Bill:
I'm sorry, i quess that means that i shouldn't have use the trail version of
Everest Ultimate Edition.

My computer:
Naam van besturingssysteem Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Versie 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
Fabrikant Microsoft Corporation

Systeemnaam GROOTENDORST_01
Systeemfabrikant Dell Computer Corporation
Systeemmodel Dimension 8300
Systeemtype Op x86 gebaseerde pc
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2393 Mhz
BIOS-versie/datum Dell Computer Corporation A01, 28-4-2003
SMBIOS-versie 2.3
Map van Windows C:\WINDOWS
Systeemmap C:\WINDOWS\system32
Opstartapparaat \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Landinstelling Nederland
Hardware Abstraction Layer Versie = "5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
Gebruikersnaam GROOTENDORST_01\Hiek Grootendorst
Tijdzone West-Europa (zomertijd)
Totaal fysiek geheugen 1.024,00 MB
Beschikbaar fysiek geheugen 527,48 MB
Totaal virtueel geheugen 2,00 GB
Beschikbaar virtueel geheugen 1,96 GB
Ruimte voor wisselbestand 1,65 GB
Wisselbestand C:\pagefile.sys
======================
:
What in the world does [TRIAL VERSION] mean, under "Service Pack"?
====================
Bill:
Overzicht Besturingssysteem:
OS Naam Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition
OS Codenaam Whistler
OS Taal Nederlands (Nederland)
OS Kernel type Uniprocessor Free
OS Versie 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
OS Service Pack [ TRIAL VERSION ]
OS Installatiedatum 30-6-2003
OS Systeemfolder C:\WINDOWS

Hiek.
=========================
:
What version of Windows is this? I'm running the new build, but I find I
have a bunch of that .dll on my drive, in different locations--none in either
program files\windows defender, nor in \system32. So--I'm not sure which one
it needs, nor what version--the ones I have are different sizes in different
locations.
==========================
Hi plun:
I've tried putting a downloaded mvscr80.dll in c:\windows\system32 by that
was not the sollution; defender couldn't find an entry point in that dll.
Then i downloaded it from the site which was mentioned in the thread you
gave. This wasn't the solution neither, the dll seem to be damaged.
BTW there is a guy who has pointed out that mvscr80.dll should be in
system32. It take this seriously. Thanks so far.

Hiek.
====================
:
Hi

Seems to be a bug again........

Read ALL messages within this thread.

http://forums.wugnet.com/msvcr80.dll-missing-NETftopic-445120-days0-orderasc-15.html

As you can see you can download this file.

regards
plun

After problems with update i unstalled and installed this versio. It won't
start telling me MSVCR80.dll is missing. Anyone?
=======================
:
Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."
"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[plun]

Hi Bill

If NET 2.0 is required it must be a mistake.

A lot of users don´t have NET 2.0 installed for different reasons.

Example ATi uses 2 different driver packages for their cards.
One "clean" without the NET "junk" as a lot of users stands for,
for a "hardcoded" gamer it´s absolutely a "crime" to install NET

For those with problems and don´t want to install NET.
http://www.down-dll.com/index.html?frameA=dll_M

And is it included in NET 2.0 ???

http://forums.wugnet.com/msvcr80.dll-missing-NETftopic-445120-days0-orderasc-15.html

regards
plun

 

[Guest]

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to Local
System account and this time the service started.

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what made
it
work. Sorry.

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

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In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Well - I have msvcr80.dll in the framework folder, and I didn't put it
there--maybe mine is slightly out of date?

That thread begs the question--Martyn (?) says where NOT to put the file,
but not where it SHOULD be. Apparently Symantec can be made happy without
it, but as I recall, folks are saying the Defender install crashes without
it.

OK--I'll give up on the .NET thing--that may well be off-base--thanks for
telling me! I do need to know where that file ought to be, though. There's
conflicting info out here--one thread says putting it in system32 enables
the install to proceed, another says not.


--

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

For whatever reason, I sure have the feeling that there's something "broken"
about the underpinnings that enable Windows Defender to install and run on
Windows 2000. That's pretty strange--don't know what to say!

--

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local
System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to
Local
System account and this time the service started.

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to
manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what
made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please
provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
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message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks
easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels
according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but
still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important
input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[plun]

Hi

I have also framework installed but I know a lot of users which
don´t want to install it, example gamers.
NET is "bloaty".....

MS must clarify how this file is used.

regards
plun

 

[Guest]

For whatever it's worth this is consistent behavior on the Win 2000 computer
I am using. I repeated this 5 times (restarting the machine).

The previous build of Windows Defender Beta 2 worked OK on this machine.

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to Local
System account and this time the service started.

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
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originated.
In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Hi

I have also framework installed but I know a lot of users which

MS must clarify how this file is used.

Yes--it isn't in the Defender folder, and also not in System32. So--it
isn't clear where it needs to be to resolve the error.

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

I haven't seen this on three Windows 2000 servers I've installed on. I do
have a windows 2000 workstation that I need to get to--will see if I can get
that done later today--it already evidences one bug from earlier on--the one
where it accesses the A drive irregularly throughout a scan--so with luck
it'll show some new bugs too!

--

For whatever it's worth this is consistent behavior on the Win 2000
computer
I am using. I repeated this 5 times (restarting the machine).

The previous build of Windows Defender Beta 2 worked OK on this machine.

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local
System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to
Local
System account and this time the service started.

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to
manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what
made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please
provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks
easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels
according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but
still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important
input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Guest]

It appears that it may be a manifest problem, I am not sure. I updated the
manifest file MSASCui.exe.manifest to include a dependency on the msvcr80.dll
that was installed on my system and things started working.
Here is what my manifest now reads:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<!-- Copyright © 1981-2001 Microsoft Corporation -->
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0">
<assemblyIdentity
version="5.1.0.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
name="Microsoft.Windows.Defender.UI"
type="win32"
/>
<description>Microsoft Windows Defender</description>
<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity
type="win32"
name="Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls"
version="6.0.0.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="6595b64144ccf1df"
language="*"
/>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>
<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity
type="win32"
name="Microsoft.VC80.CRT"
version="8.0.50608.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b"
language="*"
/>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>
</assembly>

Is this a widespread issue? I read through that thread and it appears it is
a .net 2.0 issue. Is this correct?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
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[Steve Dodson [MSFT]]

I would take a look at the system event log to see if there are any other
clues there. I really cannot pin the exact issue down based on the
information provided. The system log may show some underlying OS issue which
may be causing the difficulties described.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
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originated.

I haven't seen this on three Windows 2000 servers I've installed on. I do
have a windows 2000 workstation that I need to get to--will see if I can
get that done later today--it already evidences one bug from earlier
on--the one where it accesses the A drive irregularly throughout a scan--so
with luck it'll show some new bugs too!

--

For whatever it's worth this is consistent behavior on the Win 2000
computer
I am using. I repeated this 5 times (restarting the machine).

The previous build of Windows Defender Beta 2 worked OK on this machine.

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local
System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to
Local
System account and this time the service started.



:

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to
manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what
made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please
provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses
to this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
message
In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks
easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels
according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but
still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important
input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

I haven't had a chance to look at the only Windows 2000 workstation I have
regular access to. Did you see Steve Dodson's message? Any clues in the
System events log you can see?

--

For whatever it's worth this is consistent behavior on the Win 2000
computer
I am using. I repeated this 5 times (restarting the machine).

The previous build of Windows Defender Beta 2 worked OK on this machine.

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local
System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to
Local
System account and this time the service started.

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to
manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what
made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please
provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks
easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels
according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but
still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important
input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Fuzzy John]

Sorry. Due to the service not starting when turning on the computer and
since the computer is used by several other people I decided to restore a
pre-new beta 2 Windows Defender image to the hard disk. I did post in one of
these groups though the event text I got. Here it is:

=======

I had the same issue while installing Windows Defender yesterday. Here is
the
event I had at the time:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 04/13/2006
Time: 04:07:50 PM
User: N/A
Computer: 23NVCFW
Description:
The Windows Defender Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.


One trick that I did was to change the Log On in the properties of Windows
Defender Service to use my logon credentials instead of Local System. After
that when I tried to manually start the service the message I got was:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 04/14/2006
Time: 11:03:36 AM
User: N/A
Computer: 23NVCFW
Description:
The Windows Defender Service service terminated with the following error:
General access denied error


Finally I changed the Log On in properties back to Local System account and
after that I was able to manually start the service.

However every time I restarted the computer I had to go thru the same steps
to get the Windows Defender service running. I went back to the previous
build because of this issue.

=======

I haven't had a chance to look at the only Windows 2000 workstation I have
regular access to. Did you see Steve Dodson's message? Any clues in the
System events log you can see?

--

For whatever it's worth this is consistent behavior on the Win 2000
computer
I am using. I repeated this 5 times (restarting the machine).

The previous build of Windows Defender Beta 2 worked OK on this machine.

Spoke too early. This morning when I logged on I got a message:

"Application failed to initialize: 0x800106ba. A problem caused Windows
Defender Service to stop. To start the service, restart your computer or
search Help and Support on how to start a service manually."

In the service properties I changed Log On to my own instead of Local
System
account. The service still failed to start. Then I changed it back to
Local
System account and this time the service started.



:

I'm glad it worked in the end--thanks for persisting!

--

I tried a couple more times to install and then several times to
manually
start the service and it finally worked. I have no idea though what
made
it
work. Sorry.


:

At the end of the installation I get a message that the "WinDefend
service
could not be started. Check your priviledges blah blah blah".

With that message still on the screen I tried to manually start the
WinDefend service in Computer Management | Services and I got the
following
message:

"Could not start the Windows Defender service on Local Computer.
Error 2147942402: The system cannot find the file specified."



:

Are you running into any issues in installing updates? Please
provide
any
details so we can investigate.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
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MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
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In the link below, they (MS) state improvements include: "A
redesigned
and
simplified user interface - Incorporating feedback from our
customers, the
Windows Defender UI has been redesigned to make common tasks
easier
to
accomplish with a warning system that adapts alert levels
according
to the
severity of a threat so that it is less intrusive overall, but
still
ensures
the user does not miss the most urgent alerts."


It seems as it Microsoft overlooked one of the most important
input
items
users were giving them - request for easier and more efficient
updating.
I
think I'll pass on downloading this until they get their act
together - IF
they ever do.
Plun" wrote:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"

 

[Steve Dodson [MSFT]]

I believe that if you delete c:\program files\Windows
Defender\MSASCui.exe.manifest the problem will go away.

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It appears that it may be a manifest problem, I am not sure. I updated
the
manifest file MSASCui.exe.manifest to include a dependency on the
msvcr80.dll
that was installed on my system and things started working.
Here is what my manifest now reads:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<!-- Copyright © 1981-2001 Microsoft Corporation -->
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0">
<assemblyIdentity
version="5.1.0.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
name="Microsoft.Windows.Defender.UI"
type="win32"
/>
<description>Microsoft Windows Defender</description>
<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity
type="win32"
name="Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls"
version="6.0.0.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="6595b64144ccf1df"
language="*"
/>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>
<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity
type="win32"
name="Microsoft.VC80.CRT"
version="8.0.50608.0"
processorArchitecture="x86"
publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b"
language="*"
/>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>
</assembly>

Is this a widespread issue? I read through that thread and it appears it
is
a .net 2.0 issue. Is this correct?

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Hi

Seems to be a bug again........

Read ALL messages within this thread.

http://forums.wugnet.com/msvcr80.dll-missing-NETftopic-445120-days0-orderasc-15.html

As you can see you can download this file.

regards
plun


After problems with update i unstalled and installed this versio. It
won't start telling me MSVCR80.dll is missing. Anyone?

:

Version 1347 is out.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Icone is back....... user choice.

Start WD > Menu Tools > Options

"Choose when the Windows Defender icon..........."

"Only if ...." or "Always"