New, Non-Cosmetic Features In Vista -- Ten Good Reasons To Upgrade

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And that is an IMPROVEMENT feature?

Hilarious!

I'll bet SP1 fixes that or SHOULD fix that, so you type your desired search
in -- then hit a button to start the search....

Currently it just sounds like AutoComplete run amuck.

DSH
 
So he commutes about 23 miles per day to and from work.

So What?

That's a quite reasonable commute for someone who is smart and has bought a
house in a nice leafy suburb.

Are you envious or just angry that he is doing far better than you?

Or is it both?

DSH
 
How is it different? XP and 2000 and NT4 and most versions off office all
had indexing programs. Vista's search just seems a cutdown version of XP's.
You could generate document summaries in XP's (and 2000) search results.
Justin said:
Nice list! However there will be fools that post they don't need any of
that and Linux already has it.

Take #3, I've mentioned it many times before, and people still claim XP
has that feature. Or that you can gain it from Windows Desktop Search.

For anyone that thinks XP already has the same search feature as
Vista....you're completely lost.
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You haven't done a very Good Job of delineating how it differs from the
Search Capabilities in XP Pro SP2.

AND what you get when the Search is complete -- Good Technical Data?

I doubt it -- so why not just use Google?

DSH
 
D. Spencer Hines said:
And that is an IMPROVEMENT feature?

Hilarious!

I'll bet SP1 fixes that or SHOULD fix that, so you type your desired
search in -- then hit a button to start the search....

Currently it just sounds like AutoComplete run amuck.
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There is nothing to fix. As you type you get results. If you are referring
to my massive installation of text files then NO, the next server version
fixes that. I would never want Vista to change because I'm using a desktop
for a server level function.
 
D. Spencer Hines said:
That's a quite reasonable commute for someone who is smart and has bought
a house in a nice leafy suburb.
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That end result was not decided. Go back and read. 23 miles both ways is
hardly considered a commute. More along the lines of a normal drive to
work.
Are you envious or just angry that he is doing far better than you?
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Since you know so much about me, you tell me. Also, feel free to tell me
who else is doing far better then me. Let's how far you'll take yourself.
 
D. Spencer Hines said:
Still not explained in detail sufficient to make a judgment.
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I'm sorry. How was the explanation not good enough for you to understand?

With Vista you can install drivers from USB and CD-ROM during the OS
install. With XP you can not.

You can dismiss it all you want. But you already have your "ten" list.
 
Your inability to understand the word "instant" is not my problem.

Your inability to understand the fact that through the same search action
you are also searching email on your system, is also not my problem.

It's been spelled out for you. If you can't read it then, too bad for you.
I don't anyone here really cares if you use Vista or not or if you use it
but don't even know the features under your nose.

All we care about is getting the info out there.
 
Leythos said:
No benefit
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Smoking crack? This unloads the task of drawing the UI from the CPU. It
disconnects video related crashes from the OS kernel, allowing for better
recovery when crashes occur.
On a properly configured network this is little change.


XP has the same, MS provides it.


I didn't look for this and don't see it.
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And I'm supposed to respond to this?
LOL, help could not answer several questions I had, and it appears to be
the same help with a different interface.
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Not true. Not even close.
Strange, my USB devices work the same as in XP as far as I can tell.
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Guess you don't know what WinPE is...
Didn't work on two machines I tested, failed to copy files unless they
were in specific locations.
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fair enough...
Ok, I can see this as good, but sharing is still limited to 10 concurrent
connections.
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As it always has been for workstation based Windows OS's
Have you tried a restore using a clean drive?
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Not sure what you're asking... I've done a restore from the Vista DVD, so I
assume that's a "clean drive."
Can be good, but, we could lock XP down also.


But the third party tools offer so much more.
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Well... that's going to be the fact in many cases... thought the question
was in comparison to XP out of the box...
 
Well... #6 is WinPE 2.0... only available after Vista released because it's
based on Vista, not XP. This was kind of an esoteric listing, which is why I
listed 11. WinPE (Windows Pre-installation Environment) is the scaled down
version of a Windows OS on CD. Prior versions of WinPE absolutely did not
allow for hot plug and play of USB devices... the devices had to be attached
to the system prior to boot.

AFAIK, in regards to #9... no full system backup, i.e., disk imaging
capability, in any version of XP to this day.

Lang
 
D. Spencer Hines said:
No, Totally Mistaken -- as I've pointed out in previous posts.

No one has been able to come up with a bullet list of TEN good reasons to
move from XP Pro SP2 to Vista NOW.

The best one I've seen so far is the little box that springs up when you
move over a file to make sure you have the right one -- but I'm not even
sure about that one -- because with SP2 I THINK I already HAVE that
capability.

Microsoft needs to come up with that TEN POINT LIST -- if no one else will.
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It's already been done many times.

I've even posted links to articles.
 
Lang Murphy said:
Smoking crack? This unloads the task of drawing the UI from the CPU. It
disconnects video related crashes from the OS kernel, allowing for better
recovery when crashes occur.
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It also completely takes care of all screen tearing issues. No benefit my
rear!

Not true. Not even close.
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Well, maybe! After all Vista is just XP with a new theme.....or something
like that, according to all the linux freaks.

Guess you don't know what WinPE is...
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Of course not :)

Well... that's going to be the fact in many cases... thought the question
was in comparison to XP out of the box...
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You can't expect these people to stay within the "scope" of a conversation.
They rely on pulling info from anywhere in order to make a point.

Some people still believe that XP has the same exact instant search feature
as Vista.
 
No Sale.

All we have seen are lists of toy improvements, plus fluff, smoke and
mirrors.

New, Non-Cosmetic, SUBSTANTIVE Improvements that add NEW FUNCTIONALITY
absent in XP Pro SP2.

That's what we need to see.

DSH

 
Eh, that's your opinion. Nothing more.

We have many posts documenting the differences and a lot of them are major.

Other people can see that. If you can't then.....who cares?

For me, instant search and no screen tearing are MAJOR!

SALE!!!!!!!!



D. Spencer Hines said:
No Sale.

All we have seen are lists of toy improvements, plus fluff, smoke and
mirrors.

New, Non-Cosmetic, SUBSTANTIVE Improvements that add NEW FUNCTIONALITY
absent in XP Pro SP2.

That's what we need to see.

DSH
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No Sale.

All we have seen are lists of toy improvements, plus fluff, smoke and
mirrors.

New, Non-Cosmetic, SUBSTANTIVE Improvements that add NEW FUNCTIONALITY
absent in XP Pro SP2.

That's what we need to see.
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Instead of endlessly yapping about what you don't like, over 30 posts
and counting, why not list what YOU think is missing or is that too
much a challenge for you?
 
Stan said:
Are you serious? I commute every day to work, and make the usual
number of other trips, and gas costs me about $40 a month.

What do you drive, a Hummer?
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If you're talking about averages, I think you're both wrong. Gas in the USA
runs around $2.50 a gallon. Assuming that the average car (not a Hummer)
gets around 25 miles to the gallon., it takes $.10 worth of gas to drive a
mile. The average driver drives around 12,000 miles a year. That's $1,200,
or $100 a month.

I'm using round numbers to make the arithmetic easy, not precise ones, but
they are pretty close.
 
Twaddle!

1. My screen doesn't tear as it is, with XP.

2. I have yet to see why Vista's "Instant Search" is such a Great
Improvement over XP.

DSH
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Codswallop!

I have no obligation to Prove A Negative.

The knee-jerk advocates for the View that Vista is a Far Superior Product to
XP Pro SP2 have the BURDEN OF PROOF to tell us WHY and HOW it is -- with
SUBSTANTIVE -- Non-Cosmetic Improvements.

DSH
 
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