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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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Bill Frisbee
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that are imported...
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
The 'ribbon' is without a doubt the worst thing MS could do to office.Mamamegs said:Sorry - don't agree. I have been using the beta of office for over a
year - LOVE it.
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
I do like IE7, although I still prefer to use Firefox....IE 7 works well here as well.
Not everybody likes their whole private life all over the net...Oh, and I take the postings of people who choose to use a pseudonym
seriously... not.
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
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MICHAEL
I have tried to use Open Office, I didn't like it.
I'm not a big fan of Office 2007. I do love Office 2003, though.
-Michael
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that
are imported...
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot
less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] used her keyboard to write :
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
I'm not a big fan of Office 2007. I do love Office 2003, though.
-Michael
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that
are imported...
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot
less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] used her keyboard to write :
The 'ribbon' is without a doubt the worst thing MS could do to office.Sorry - don't agree. I have been using the beta of office for over a
year - LOVE it.
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
I do like IE7, although I still prefer to use Firefox....IE 7 works well here as well.
Not everybody likes their whole private life all over the net...Oh, and I take the postings of people who choose to use a pseudonym
seriously... not.
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
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progressive realization
Read this:
you have a high resolution, in that resolution office 2007 is better. I
would vote for a customizable ribbon,
that could change in many ways including MAGNIFICATION with vector quality.
Many people have widescreen laptops, that need vertical space.
These people used to customize office to get less toolbars, but cannot do
that any longer.
Other people use CRT or big monitors because they have eyesight problems.
And then there are blind people who use voice synthesis to "see" their
screen.
The toolbar presenting many icons may not seem to you confusing. However I
must urge you to open your mind,
and see that there are many people with tiered over loaded brains, and some
that have illnesses. There are
old people who use computers too. So in office they have substituted a
string of actions with, shall we say a big pallet of options shown before
you, so you must select a locating from icon shape from that pallet.
People with mild or severe autism will tell you that this is overwhelming to
them. Yes the PANIC and sweat when giving them too many choices at once.
There are people that don't spend 10 hours in front of the computer, but 16
or even 18 hours. But even at 5 hours, it depends on the amount
of information presented on the screen. This rhythm is increasing
dramatically with high speed internet and video.
There are many studies that show that the human brain is being overwhelmed
with information... by presenting too much at a time,
needing you to choose from a palette of shapes and choices (ribbon), is
utterly wrong. In other words normal people are showing signs of autism,
because the brain cannot absorb the information presented fast enough.
Sorry, it will not work as well for the groups I have described above.
Memory uses strings to associate actions. One thing then leads to
another.....
Anyway... you seem ignorant to all this because you have a big screen, and
you have been using
office with your computer skills and you think everyone is like you. However
you are very mistaken.
Your work probably consist of actions in a few applications, and some
occasional web surfing.
You are of an old generation of users. New users, don't use computers as you
do. YOU are becoming the minority!
I think you are the one who is narrow minded. You see that it works for you
and so it should work for everyone...
If you even could fathom the understanding from which I speak, you would put
your tail between your legs and run away yapping.
There is much more to say about this.. this is only a small portion of what
I could say about why the design is bad....
"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old enough to probably be your mother-in-law, if some poor girl was so
unfortunate as to be stuck with someone as narrow-minded as you, not to
mention judgemental and pedantic.
Dual monitors on my desktop, 1600x1350. (At home) Single monitor at work,
same settings. I sit in front of a monitor at least 10 hours a day, doing
real work and not whining because someone whose software you will proabably
not use changed their interface. WAH WAH WAH!
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, progressive realization asked:
| what kind of screen and screen settings do you have?
|
| How old are you? How many hours do you spend in front of the the
| computer? Do you have a multimonitor system?
|
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | Sorry - don't agree. I have been using the beta of office for over a
| year - LOVE it.
|
| IE 7 works well here as well.
|
| Oh, and I take the postings of people who choose to use a pseudonym
| seriously... not.
|
| --
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
| reading.
|
| After furious head scratching, progressive realization asked:
|
|| New images
||
|| http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8321/ie7funny2oc7.jpg
||
|| http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5660/office2007copymp8.jpg
||
|| I cant stand Office2007 either....
||
|| Sorry MS, this time you blew it!
you have a high resolution, in that resolution office 2007 is better. I
would vote for a customizable ribbon,
that could change in many ways including MAGNIFICATION with vector quality.
Many people have widescreen laptops, that need vertical space.
These people used to customize office to get less toolbars, but cannot do
that any longer.
Other people use CRT or big monitors because they have eyesight problems.
And then there are blind people who use voice synthesis to "see" their
screen.
The toolbar presenting many icons may not seem to you confusing. However I
must urge you to open your mind,
and see that there are many people with tiered over loaded brains, and some
that have illnesses. There are
old people who use computers too. So in office they have substituted a
string of actions with, shall we say a big pallet of options shown before
you, so you must select a locating from icon shape from that pallet.
People with mild or severe autism will tell you that this is overwhelming to
them. Yes the PANIC and sweat when giving them too many choices at once.
There are people that don't spend 10 hours in front of the computer, but 16
or even 18 hours. But even at 5 hours, it depends on the amount
of information presented on the screen. This rhythm is increasing
dramatically with high speed internet and video.
There are many studies that show that the human brain is being overwhelmed
with information... by presenting too much at a time,
needing you to choose from a palette of shapes and choices (ribbon), is
utterly wrong. In other words normal people are showing signs of autism,
because the brain cannot absorb the information presented fast enough.
Sorry, it will not work as well for the groups I have described above.
Memory uses strings to associate actions. One thing then leads to
another.....
Anyway... you seem ignorant to all this because you have a big screen, and
you have been using
office with your computer skills and you think everyone is like you. However
you are very mistaken.
Your work probably consist of actions in a few applications, and some
occasional web surfing.
You are of an old generation of users. New users, don't use computers as you
do. YOU are becoming the minority!
I think you are the one who is narrow minded. You see that it works for you
and so it should work for everyone...
If you even could fathom the understanding from which I speak, you would put
your tail between your legs and run away yapping.
There is much more to say about this.. this is only a small portion of what
I could say about why the design is bad....
"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Old enough to probably be your mother-in-law, if some poor girl was so
unfortunate as to be stuck with someone as narrow-minded as you, not to
mention judgemental and pedantic.
Dual monitors on my desktop, 1600x1350. (At home) Single monitor at work,
same settings. I sit in front of a monitor at least 10 hours a day, doing
real work and not whining because someone whose software you will proabably
not use changed their interface. WAH WAH WAH!
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, progressive realization asked:
| what kind of screen and screen settings do you have?
|
| How old are you? How many hours do you spend in front of the the
| computer? Do you have a multimonitor system?
|
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| | Sorry - don't agree. I have been using the beta of office for over a
| year - LOVE it.
|
| IE 7 works well here as well.
|
| Oh, and I take the postings of people who choose to use a pseudonym
| seriously... not.
|
| --
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|
| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
| reading.
|
| After furious head scratching, progressive realization asked:
|
|| New images
||
|| http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8321/ie7funny2oc7.jpg
||
|| http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5660/office2007copymp8.jpg
||
|| I cant stand Office2007 either....
||
|| Sorry MS, this time you blew it!
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progressive realization
The solution to making documents compatible is for Microsoft to make the cod for .doc open source and cooperate with making it a standard and not a proprietary format. FAT CHANCE!!!
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that are imported...
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that are imported...
Bill F.
At least, for the ordinary user, Open Office has more of a traditional look, and its a lot less expensive than Microsoft Office.
William
The 'ribbon' is without a doubt the worst thing MS could do to office.Mamamegs said:Sorry - don't agree. I have been using the beta of office for over a
year - LOVE it.
My whole familiar workspace is turned upside down and it takes me too
long to find what I need. Sorry, I hate it.... :'(
I do like IE7, although I still prefer to use Firefox....IE 7 works well here as well.
Not everybody likes their whole private life all over the net...Oh, and I take the postings of people who choose to use a pseudonym
seriously... not.
So - don't take me seriously then.
--
Mamamegs.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(Adam Savage)
Nederlandse nieuwsgroep voor Vista
alt.nl.os.windows.vista
(e-mail address removed)
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Bill Frisbee
Have you been bothering keeping up with Office 2007?
Apparently not.
Bill F.
"progressive realization" <-> wrote in message The solution to making documents compatible is for Microsoft to make the cod for .doc open source and cooperate with making it a standard and not a proprietary format. FAT CHANCE!!!
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that are imported...
Bill F.
"
Apparently not.
Bill F.
"progressive realization" <-> wrote in message The solution to making documents compatible is for Microsoft to make the cod for .doc open source and cooperate with making it a standard and not a proprietary format. FAT CHANCE!!!
And takes up tonnes more memory, CPU and has a really bad habit of destroying documents that are imported...
Bill F.
"
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Robert Moir
Bill said:Of course things can become worse.
However IE 7 is a major improvement over IE 6.
YOU don't like the GUI, I do.
Well I hate to say it but I agree with the troll, on the IE7 GUI being awful
I mean, not the whole personality issues and inability to write more than
two sentences without heaping personal insults on people!
However, I do quite like Office 2007's GUI, so go figure.
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progressive realization
there is no troll here....
I am being "colorful"
I am being "colorful"