.NET/C# versus PHP

[beegee]

beegeewrote:

AFAIK then MS is not replacing ASP.NET web forms witH ASP.NET MVC - they
are supplementing it.

Yes, that's true. Of the technologies I mentioned, though, MVC is the
one that has not, as yet, caught on. I'm actually excited that
webforms are being supplanted by web service technologies. I always
thought it was a wasteful and kind of arrogant way for server side
code to communicate with a client.

microsoft.com and myspace.com are both pretty big !

They sure are, though which part of myspace is written in .NET? Since
it is a RESTful site, it is difficult to tell and page source shows a
lot of cold fusion files. They are advertising for C# programmers at
myspace so obviously there is a lot of .NET work going on. I wonder
if it is MONO or are they using IIS to serve it up?

Microsoft.com is not one of the sites I had in mind when I said
"fast".

Bob

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

Yes, that's true. Of the technologies I mentioned, though, MVC is the
one that has not, as yet, caught on. I'm actually excited that
webforms are being supplanted by web service technologies. I always
thought it was a wasteful and kind of arrogant way for server side
code to communicate with a client.

Web services has been in ASP.NET since version 1.x.

ASP.NET MVC is not about web services.

They sure are, though which part of myspace is written in .NET?

All of it I believe.

Since
it is a RESTful site,

Hm. I tend to use the REST term for app-app not for
browser-app.

I am not even sure that it is RESTFul. It looks like FORM
based login.

it is difficult to tell and page source shows a
lot of cold fusion files.

They have mapped the old extension to ASP.NET to avoid changing
URL's when they switched to ASP.NET.

They are advertising for C# programmers at
myspace so obviously there is a lot of .NET work going on. I wonder
if it is MONO or are they using IIS to serve it up?
IIS

Microsoft.com is not one of the sites I had in mind when I said
"fast".

I think it performs pretty good.

Arne

 

[beegee]

Web services has been in ASP.NET since version 1.x.

ASP.NET MVC is not about web services.

Yup, I didn't mean to lump it in as specifically having to do with web
services. What I meant to say is that MS is moving away from the form
based, post back inefficiences of ASP.NET webforms. I see this as a
good thing although their decision to bless jQuery is one of the most
boneheaded decisions they've made in years. If they had managed to
acquire Yahoo, it would have been YUI which is much better.

All of it I believe.

There's no way to be sure. But as I clicked around it this morning I
saw more of the .aspx extension and less of what I think of as RESTful
indicators (command verbs instead of file extensions). There are
quite a few .cfm extensions too.

I think it performs pretty good.

The home page is often slow to load, now that they've got silverlight
content, even slower. After that, yes, it's "pretty good".

Bob

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

There's no way to be sure.

To be absolutely sure you would need to do a code
inspection.

But at least to me the fact that their Chief System Architect
at a public conference state that they are on ASP.NET is
good enough.

Arne

 

[Michael Bruschkewitz]

"Erwin Moller"


Congratulations, that's three people in a row who don't understand
sarcasm.

Now that's a demonstration how not to get a sample.