My main pc is now vista free

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I won't argue the point of "...MS's need to render existing
hardware/software obsolete and start a new revenue cycle." I would be
interested in seeing the source for Mr. Ballmer's statements to that effect.
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I might be mistaken about Ballmer's candor. But that's not the main
point. In the 1990s, a 4 or 5 year old computer was demonstrably
obsolete. But how obsolete is a 4 or 5 year old computer now? It's
still fine for most things... but it's obsolete if you wanna run
Windows Vista.
At any rate, my interest in Vista stems from a few things. The first major
difference, IMHO, is the new graphics model in which the desktop and all
things presented within are drawn by DirectX, freeing the CPU to do CPU type
tasks. I think this is pretty huge. Agree that there may not be a "pressing
need" for this in the marketplace and, still, it's a big change in the OS,
one to which the end user may not give much thought, and one that may have a
big impact on the user experience, e.g., fewer application exceptions
related to video that might bring the system to its knees.

Secondary is the improved security. Perfect security? Of course not. Can it
be further improved? Of course. Better FW. Perfect? Nope. And better than
the FW in XP.

Subsequent features of interest, to me, include Complete PC Backup Restore
(yes, better third party apps available at a price), and the Snipping tool
(again, better third party apps available, even for free...). But these are
just nice-to-haves OOB, not things that would sway me to buying Vista on
these features alone.
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You're an enthusiast. Vista is the latest hot thing, with innovations
like DirectX rendering that you are capable of appreciating. Most
people don't care about how the desktop is rendered, as long as they
can click the icons and get the results they want.

Of course, I'm at the other end of the spectrum -- always the last to
upgrade. So maybe the market weakness I perceive with Vista is based
on my own pathology. We'll see.

Charlie
 
My main computer is a Gateway P4 - 2 gigahertz with 2 gigabytes of RAM and Vista runs very nicely on it, and I bought this computer in October of 2002.

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 03:04:36 -0500, "Lang Murphy"

I might be mistaken about Ballmer's candor. But that's not the main
point. In the 1990s, a 4 or 5 year old computer was demonstrably
obsolete. But how obsolete is a 4 or 5 year old computer now? It's
still fine for most things... but it's obsolete if you wanna run
Windows Vista.
 
My main computer is a Gateway P4 - 2 gigahertz with 2 gigabytes of RAM and Vista runs very nicely on it, and I bought this computer in October of 2002.
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Hmmm. I guess I'm mistaken about the resources required by Vista,
just as I'm mistaken about Ballmer's candor.

But I'm not totally full of shit, because you're confirming the flip
side of my point -- the useful lifespan of a PC is lengthening. Users
only need so many giga-units of computing power to type a letter or
read the news on the web.

Also the useful life of software is increasing. Some programs are
roughly as good as they can get, and more giga-wads of code and
giga-torque of hardware won't make them any better.

So I wonder if MS is moving in the right direction by making the OS
into a monster, just because hardware has come far enough along so it
will run at a reasonable speed. What is the payoff, aside from a
glitzy look? Does Vista make the computer a more useful piece of
equipment?

I would like to see MS come up with a Damn Small Windows type of OS...
a complete package of 50 mb or less. That would challenge them to
really get the details nailed down tight, and I'll bet a lot of people
would pay for an industrial-strength "utility" OS that boots fast and
never crashes.

Charlie
 
michail iakovou yos said:
After the restore point deletion, dual boot problem and bootloader
failure,
and after the headache of bitlocker that refused to work on my PC.

I am gladly saying that I have removed Vista from my hard disk!

Good riddens!

I now have it only as a dual boot on my test machine, and inside a virtual
machine...

I have to tell you the truth.. I don't miss it at all!

XP is so fast.. so clean, so responsive, so compatible.... its wonderful!
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Does this mean the newsgroup will be free of you? Can we get so lucky?
 
Rock said:
Does this mean the newsgroup will be free of you? Can we get so lucky?
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Some things never change. 5 years ago it was all about how "I don't miss
XP at all! 2000 is so fast...so clean, so responsive, so
compatible.....it's wonderful!" XP was " a bloated pig with lipstick".

Luddites are nothing if not consistent.

Mike
 
Mike said:
Some things never change. 5 years ago it was all about how "I don't
miss XP at all! 2000 is so fast...so clean, so responsive, so
compatible.....it's wonderful!" XP was " a bloated pig with lipstick".

Luddites are nothing if not consistent.

Mike
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Strange, I've always preferred XP over W2K, although XP didn't really
rock until SP2.

I will be buying Vista for one computer, the gaming machine, but I will
be prudent and wait for SP2 and all the third parties to get their act
together first.

Alias
 
Some things never change. 5 years ago it was all about how "I don't miss
XP at all! 2000 is so fast...so clean, so responsive, so
compatible.....it's wonderful!" XP was " a bloated pig with lipstick".

Luddites are nothing if not consistent.
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I think you are confusing luddites with skeptics who question the
value of technology upgrades, because they are tired of wasting money
on glitzy crap.

Charlie
 
No, he's not. Skeptics don't flame the crap out of the newsgroup with lies
and BS.

luddites - One who opposes technical or technological change.

Those who oppose cause the most trouble. It's these extreme luddites that
are complete asses.
 
No, he's not. Skeptics don't flame the crap out of the newsgroup with lies
and BS.

luddites - One who opposes technical or technological change.

Those who oppose cause the most trouble. It's these extreme luddites that
are complete asses.
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Nobody's causing any trouble here. If you don't like someone's POV,
you are free to ignore it. The "trouble" you perceive is what
sociologists call cognitive dissonance -- i.e., the emotional
discomfort that arises when objective information undermines deeply
held beliefs. Human nature being what it is, such information does
not cause true believers to modify their perception of reality.
Instead, they become _angry_ at the sources of the disturbing
information, and lash out with bitter invective.

That is what I'm seeing here. Clearly there are many people in this
group who have a large emotional investment in Windows Vista. They
are unable to look at it realistically, and see that is a godawful
mess. That is unfortunate.

Charlie
 
Ok, now what does THAT have to do with the fact that the term "luddites" was
used correctly as per it's definition?

If you think Vista is "a godawful mess" then good for you. As you so claim
in your last post "you are free to ignore it." So take your own advise.

"godawful" is not a POV, it's utter nonsense.

Anyone that has an "emotional investment" yet alone a LARGE "emotional
investment" needs to seek therapy. It's nothing more then a consumer
product.
 
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