My haul today and questions

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As a result of your comment regarding the newer Durabrite Ultra inks, I
did a very brief analysis of the requests for my Epson Cleaning Manual
to see how those printers are doing.

Of course, they are newer (last 18 months or so) which skews the results
since the printers tend to developing clogging problems over time.
However, the results are still looking good. The printers and
all-in-ones which use the Durabrite Ultra inks have a much lower
clogging issue relative to those using Durabrite inks, based upon the
requests for help with clogs.

What this leaves me wondering is this: are there are good reasons why
Durabrite Ultra inks can't be used in printers originally released with
regular Durabrite inks? If not, why would Epson offer the Durabrite
Ultra inks for the older printers? I suppose it is possible the inks
are not compatible with one another and so the mixing could be a
problem, but they seem to have similar formulations (both types use
10-20% glycerols and the same pH). Perhaps coloring is somewhat
different, or some other concern. I don't know.

Based upon this admittedly sloppy science, it does look like the
Durabrite Ultra inks have a much lower complaint rate regarding head
clogging.

Art
 
Arthur said:
As a result of your comment regarding the newer Durabrite Ultra inks, I
did a very brief analysis of the requests for my Epson Cleaning Manual
to see how those printers are doing.
Click to expand...
....
The printers and
all-in-ones which use the Durabrite Ultra inks have a much lower
clogging issue relative to those using Durabrite inks, based upon the
requests for help with clogs.

What this leaves me wondering is this: are there are good reasons why
Durabrite Ultra inks can't be used in printers originally released with
regular Durabrite inks?
Click to expand...
....
I suppose it is possible the inks
are not compatible with one another and so the mixing could be a
problem, but they seem to have similar formulations (both types use
10-20% glycerols and the same pH). Perhaps coloring is somewhat
different, or some other concern. I don't know.

Based upon this admittedly sloppy science, it does look like the
Durabrite Ultra inks have a much lower complaint rate regarding head
clogging.
Click to expand...

Thanks, guysl

1. I submit that Epson has made an arrangement with a different dairy to
use their better, secret process to homogenize their ink.

2. Earnestly, now: what do these differences bode for filling these
cartridges with aftermarket inks? And which are good, which are bad in
this respect?

And thanks, guys, for letting me into the arcane world of The Epson
Religion. And the machine does use Durabright Ultra ink.

I have more questions, which I'll put into my next post.

Richard
 
I just unpacked my "new" Epson CX4800 machine. It appears to be in very
nice condition. However, it came with no power cord, no USB cord, no
manuals; just the machine and its ink cartridges. So, here goes:

1. Where can I get the manual(s) for it?
2. Where can I get its driver for XP SP2 (Professional).
3. How can I run a self-test?
4. If you know, who makes good aftermarket ink or refilled cartridges
that are close enough to the DuraBright inks for everyday satisfaction?
5. Is there a good place to pick up this type of power cord (looks like
a figure 8, 2-conductor non-polarized -- I think that HP uses the same
cord)?

Thanks.

Richard
 
Oh lord... If you have followed the HP saga of the last few years, you
know that the majority of the employees have felt a cold wind during
certain times of the "transition" in executive, upper management and
consolidation that occurred.

I think HP has had more upper level management and executive board
changes in the last 5 years than most multinationals go through in 25.

Sadly, many of the most dedicated and caring people in their ranks found
other places to be...

I suspect HP will have to stabilize for a few more years before they
will be able to attract the quality of employees they once had.

If you want to see some of the scandal up close, Goggle:

HP +Scandal

HP +"Cary Fiorina" +"Walter Hewlett"

HP +Spying +Dunn

HP +Adscam +Canada

"HP Canada" +Fraud

Each of these will bring you to a new grouping of articles about
separate incidents. This is no slight on HP employees or even their
products, but how can a company work well when this is going on?

For those who are less inclined to do their own Googling:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1084546724028_79955924/?hub=TopStories

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1571849/posts

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14736379/site/newsweek/

http://news.com.com/HPs+boardroom+drama/2009-1014_3-6112817.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217972,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6939785/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/05/60minutes/main2069703.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4250597.stm

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/itmanagement/0,1000000308,2106512,00.htm


Art
 
Richard said:
I just unpacked my "new" Epson CX4800 machine. It appears to be in very
nice condition. However, it came with no power cord, no USB cord, no
manuals; just the machine and its ink cartridges. So, here goes:

1. Where can I get the manual(s) for it?
Click to expand...

www.epson.com

USA (probably the best North American site to go to)

drivers and support

all-in-one

CX-4800

There will be all the drivers you need, info on the ink types, what
cartridges you need, a html user manual with info on self-test and
everything else.

2. Where can I get its driver for XP SP2 (Professional).
Click to expand...

See above

3. How can I run a self-test?
Click to expand...

See above
4. If you know, who makes good aftermarket ink or refilled cartridges
that are close enough to the DuraBright inks for everyday satisfaction?
Click to expand...

I never recommend specific ink companies, either OEM or 3rd party, but
others here will have a lot to say. Ignore anyone with a name starting
with Meas...

5. Is there a good place to pick up this type of power cord (looks like
a figure 8, 2-conductor non-polarized -- I think that HP uses the same
cord)?
Click to expand...

The same thrift store you got the printers at? Probably in a tangle
with a few dozen others.

Art
 
Arthur Entlich said:
www.epson.com

USA (probably the best North American site to go to)

drivers and support

all-in-one

CX-4800

There will be all the drivers you need, info on the ink types, what
cartridges you need, a html user manual with info on self-test and
everything else.



See above



See above


I never recommend specific ink companies, either OEM or 3rd party, but
others here will have a lot to say. Ignore anyone with a name starting
with Meas...



The same thrift store you got the printers at? Probably in a tangle with
a few dozen others.

Art
Click to expand...

I've been using bulk aftermarket ink dyebase ink from MIS at
www.inksupply.com for a year and a half with our ten C84 printers at school
and using pigment aftermarket ink on my own R1800 at home with nice results.

Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)12.pa.us
 
I think HP has had more upper level management and executive board
changes in the last 5 years than most multinationals go through in 25.

Sadly, many of the most dedicated and caring people in their ranks found
other places to be...

I suspect HP will have to stabilize for a few more years before they
will be able to attract the quality of employees they once had.

If you want to see some of the scandal up close, Goggle:
Click to expand...

You know, my tantrum inside the printer demo van was around 10 years ago
-- before the arranged marriage with Compaq and the reign of Carly. Much
earlier, I'd done a project at HP, where I found that I had come in
after much staff departure. A usability lab stood vacant at the end of
the large room, and their superb publication department was history. I
saw the remnants of their work and it had been very good indeed. And the
HP computer on my desk was somewhat rickety. Entire wings of buildings
stood vacant. Sigh. But the food in the cafeteria was still quite good.

Richard
 
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