MVP?

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It's human nature to want to help another in need and to have the sense of
community in doing so.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Geoff A. said:
Crikey! I wish I'd never asked!!!
I have to say that so far the advice given has been comprehensive and
gratefully accepted, and to think that people do this for no actual
monetary gain is encouraging for society!!!

Colin Barnhorst said:
MVP's are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and are then given
access to MS sources and personnel in the areas of their MVP interest.
Since many MVP's also make a living in these areas of interest, this has
definite professional value.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Vanguard said:
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional


So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these non-MS
knowledgable professionals. MS and the OP get a lot for nothing.


And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be
altruistic then you are not altruistic.

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I have been most impressed by the speed, accuracy, and care with which most
MVP's respond to questions, regardless of how repetitive or stupid the
questions may be. And not just MVP's-- I have heard from a broad range of
people, and you know, there has been the occasional time (very occasional )
that I have been able to supply an answer!
Anyway, thanks to all, keep up the good work!
Geoff A. said:
Crikey! I wish I'd never asked!!!
I have to say that so far the advice given has been comprehensive and
gratefully accepted, and to think that people do this for no actual
monetary gain is encouraging for society!!!

Colin Barnhorst said:
MVP's are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and are then given
access to MS sources and personnel in the areas of their MVP interest.
Since many MVP's also make a living in these areas of interest, this has
definite professional value.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Vanguard said:
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional


So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these non-MS
knowledgable professionals. MS and the OP get a lot for nothing.


And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be
altruistic then you are not altruistic.

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Colin

You're forgetting the annual bun fight in Seattle <g>. Usually in
February!

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Gerry

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Colin Barnhorst said:
It's human nature to want to help another in need and to have the
sense of community in doing so.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Geoff A. said:
Crikey! I wish I'd never asked!!!
I have to say that so far the advice given has been comprehensive and
gratefully accepted, and to think that people do this for no actual
monetary gain is encouraging for society!!!

Colin Barnhorst said:
MVP's are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and are then
given access to MS sources and personnel in the areas of their MVP
interest. Since many MVP's also make a living in these areas of
interest, this has definite professional value.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional


So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these
non-MS knowledgable professionals. MS and the OP get a lot for
nothing.


And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these
newsgroups get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward
to be altruistic then you are not altruistic.

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And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort?

If they consistently provide good advice over an extended period of
time (e.g. 1 year) then they will probably find that they are
nominated for the MVP award for that year's work.

The award is given annually, based on the past years quantity and
quality of volunteer assistance provided in the newsgroups and other
support forums.

If you need a reward to be altruistic then you are not altruistic.

True. And if Microsoft were to cancel the MVP program you would find
that the vast majority of MVPs would continue to provide the same
quantity and quality of assistance, just as they did prior to
receiving the MVP award.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
A rhetorical question is always in question format..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
Goeff

I was a person sitting in front of a computer, answering queries where I
could.. for sure, my background of being a computer service engineer was and
is useful.. but I am still the same person, sitting in front of a screen,
answering queries where I can.. the major difference is that Microsoft has
rewarded me for what I just saw as humble efforts..

I was taken aback by an e-mail from a person who wanted to nominate me,
shocked at actually receiving the award, overwhelmed by the technical data
to which I now have access, humbled in that somebody out there considered me
good enough..

Being an MVP doesn't make me a better person.. I don't seek to upstage
anybody.. I don't want to wave my certificate in anybody's face.. I just
want to help people, and the certificate hanging on the wall indicates that
somebody thinks I do ok..

Of all the certificates that I have ever received, this one is the best.. I
didn't plan for it, swot up for it, ride over other people to get it.. it
just came out of the blue..

Greetings and felicitations from the Great White North to you and yours
 
:)

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Gerry Cornell said:
Colin

You're forgetting the annual bun fight in Seattle <g>. Usually in
February!

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Regards.

Gerry

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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Colin Barnhorst said:
It's human nature to want to help another in need and to have the sense
of community in doing so.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Geoff A. said:
Crikey! I wish I'd never asked!!!
I have to say that so far the advice given has been comprehensive and
gratefully accepted, and to think that people do this for no actual
monetary gain is encouraging for society!!!

MVP's are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and are then given
access to MS sources and personnel in the areas of their MVP interest.
Since many MVP's also make a living in these areas of interest, this
has definite professional value.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional


So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these non-MS
knowledgable professionals. MS and the OP get a lot for nothing.


And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these
newsgroups get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to
be altruistic then you are not altruistic.

--
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And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be altruistic
then you are not altruistic.

I posted a question years ago, after I had trouble with Audio CDs playing on
my machine - that was back in 1999. I found it hard to pull myself away.
Now It's just a place to hang, answer questions as they come up, ask
something when I need to.

I spend probably on average an hour a day just replying to people, not in
this group but in other XP groups, but I also spend probably double that
time soaking up bucket loads of information - that's what I get out of it -
and I'm not an MVP.

Plus it's always a nice buzz when you really help someone out of a tricky
situation.

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Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/
http://windows.dasmirnov.net/ Windows XP Resource Site.

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Greetings and felicitations from the Great White North to you and yours

What part? I'm in Duncan BC.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
Vankleek Hill, Eastern Ottawa Valley, Ontario (poutine country)..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
I'll agree with you there Paul, and I have gathered a lot of useful
information along the way.
I know I have made lots of friends among the groups and enjoy the buzz
as you say when I'm able to offer help to someone else.
Joan
 
Vanguard said:
And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be
altruistic then you are not altruistic.

It is only when you have been doing it effectively and helpfully and
entirely voluntarily for a substantial time (say a year) that Microsoft
considers an award. Even then it may not be made - or not immediately.
Those who get and deserve it have generally not been looking for it and
are often surprised.

One then gets some minor rewards - a certificate, a modest gift, some
free software, and an invitation to an annual 'summit' meeting (and
possibly some local ones). But trying to put a value on these, if I
compare with the price of doing what I do at consultancy rates, the term
'peanuts' comes to mind
 
Alex Nichol said:
It is only when you have been doing it effectively and helpfully and
entirely voluntarily for a substantial time (say a year) that
Microsoft considers an award. Even then it may not be made - or not
immediately. Those who get and deserve it have generally not been
looking for it and are often surprised.

I know of cases where it has been necessary to talk someone into accepting
the award.
One then gets some minor rewards - a certificate, a modest gift, some
free software, and an invitation to an annual 'summit' meeting (and
possibly some local ones). But trying to put a value on these, if I
compare with the price of doing what I do at consultancy rates, the
term 'peanuts' comes to mind

But pay your own transportation to the meetings.

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