MSCONFIG selection does not stay after Apply

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I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
 
ritter197 said:
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
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Remove them from your Startup Folder.
 
ritter197 said:
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
Click to expand...

First of all, what are they? Some applications (like QuickTime or
RealPlayer, for example), use TSRs in your system tray. If the application
notices that it isn't loading anymore, it will replace it so that it does.

As far as Msconfig, it is really only intended to be used as a temporary
diagnostic aid. For permanent changes, you will want to actually go through
the uninstall procedure for the application, or manually remove it from your
system.

Jon
 
I do not want to remove these applications permanently, just not to take a
lot of time during the startup.

One has to do with screen print, the other with messenger, the last with
FTmon something.
 
Remove them from your Startup Folder.
Click to expand...


In my experience, there's a whole bunch of stuff that starts in your
computer at bootup and NEVER shows up in your startup folder. For example, I
have ONE thing in my startup folder, a Ralink wireless utility. But once my
machine has started up, with no action on my part, my system tray shows the
antivirus program, a couple of nVidia programs (video settings and a mixer)
and teh Roxio Media Creator Drag and Drop utility. None of these are in the
startup folder, yet they start when Windows start.
(In fact, I manually go to the Roxio icon and turn it off every time because
I can't figure out how to get it not to start on boot.)
 
ritter197 said:
I do not want to remove these applications permanently, just not to take a
lot of time during the startup.

One has to do with screen print, the other with messenger, the last with
FTmon something.
Click to expand...
most apps can be taken out of startup just using msconfig


messenger can be a bit of a problem though...

I can't recall off hand...but if you let messanger startup...
in settings there might be a way to disable it from starting by default
 
DP said:
In my experience, there's a whole bunch of stuff that starts in your
computer at bootup and NEVER shows up in your startup folder. For
example, I have ONE thing in my startup folder, a Ralink wireless
utility. But once my machine has started up, with no action on my
part, my system tray shows the antivirus program, a couple of nVidia
programs (video settings and a mixer) and teh Roxio Media Creator
Drag and Drop utility. None of these are in the startup folder, yet
they start when Windows start. (In fact, I manually go to the Roxio
icon and turn it off every time because I can't figure out how to get
it not to start on boot.)
Click to expand...


That's correct. The startup folder is only one place from which programs can
start automatically. Run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on the
Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start automatically.
 
ritter197 said:
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?

Try this small stand alone proggy.
Click to expand...

http://www.wheresjames.com/index.php?page=startupmgr

If you can't find the settings inside the programs themselves,give this a
try.It's Free.

C.
 
Ken Blake said:
That's correct. The startup folder is only one place from which programs
can start automatically. Run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on
the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start
automatically.
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Hi Ken. Read the OP again he says he switches them off in
msconfig, but they don`t stay turned off.
 
Ken Blake said:
That's correct. The startup folder is only one place from which programs
can start automatically. Run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on
the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start
automatically.
Click to expand...

Here's one thing I've never understood about msconfig. If I uncheck a
program because I don't want it to start, is there any way to make that the
NEW "default" startup configuration? I.e., so that that program never starts
up on boot again.
Or am I forced to use "selective startup" with that program unchecked from
here on out?
 
beenthere said:
Hi Ken. Read the OP again he says he switches them off in
msconfig, but they don`t stay turned off.
Click to expand...


No, I was replying to the person who posted above--beenthere--not to the
original poster. Beenthere apparently didn't know about MSCONFIG.
 
ritter197 said:
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
Click to expand...

Some applications insist that there startup components remain in
place, and will replace them if they are turned off in MSCONFIG.

Also many viruses/trojans do the same thing.

What are the exact names of the specific items that you are trying to
turn off? Sometimes there are special procedures that involve
reconfiguring the application that these items are associated with.

Without the complete details it is difficult to give you complete
instructions.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
Ken Blake said:
No, I was replying to the person who posted above--beenthere--not to the
original poster. Beenthere apparently didn't know about MSCONFIG.
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I Am beenthere Ken. I know about msconfig, and the Startup folder, and
the Registry. I just pointed the OP to another option for his problem.
I say, help them along, but don`t do it all for them <g>.
 
beenthere said:
I Am beenthere Ken. I know about msconfig, and the Startup folder, and
the Registry. I just pointed the OP to another option for his problem.
I say, help them along, but don`t do it all for them <g>.
Click to expand...


OK, then I misinterpreted what you wrote. Sorry.
 
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
Click to expand...

FWIW, I downloaded Mike Lin's excellent (and free) "Startup Control Panel".
I've used it for several years. It's a simple, one exe utility that's far
nicer than MSCONFIG. Just stick in in a folder in your path.
You can grab it here:
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
 
That's correct. The startup folder is only one place from which programs can
start automatically. Run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on the
Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start automatically.
Click to expand...

You may want to disable some Services too.
 
That is what we are discussing. We turn it off in the MSCONFIG, Startup
folder, say Apply, the Close and it still starts!!!
 
I am trying to stop some items in the Startup tap of MSCONFIG to stop and
select them, then use Apply and finally Close.

When I start up the computer form a dead start I find that often (not
always) those 3 items are starting up again and delaying the startup
unnecessarily long.

Why is that and what is better solution than Msconfig?
Click to expand...


The better solution is one of many applications that manage
such startup items. I prefer one that monitors more than
just startup items,

HijackThis
http://www.merijn.org/downloads.html

.... as it can be set to permanently ignore some known
"valid" startup items you want to keep, permanently remove
others, and leave the rest to view. It can also be set to
automatically check these things on each boot and alert you
if the list changes which is very nice feature.

As for why some re-enable themselves, some applications will
check the configuration (might be a menu the user, uses to
select whether the module is loaded at boot-time, or the
application may not give you an option at all on whether
you can stop it from re-enabling the module every time the
app is ran).

If you can disable it within the parent application's
settings *menu*, do it that way. If you can't, you can
disable through HijackThis but in some cases the app may not
work properly anymore- but usually they do, it has to be
taken on a case-by-case basis.

In more stubborn apps you may have to actually delete the
file it's loading and then see if the app works properly
still, or find an alternative app for same tasks if this
boottime module bothers you enough to do so.
 
ritter197 said:
Ken Blake said:
DP said:
Remove them from your Startup Folder.


In my experience, there's a whole bunch of stuff that starts in your [.........]
icon and turn it off every time because I can't figure out how to get
it not to start on boot.)
Click to expand...

That's correct. The startup folder is only one place from which programs
can start automatically. Run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on
the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start
automatically.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
That is what we are discussing. We turn it off in the MSCONFIG, Startup
folder, say Apply, the Close and it still starts!!!
Click to expand...

Then you need to disable the "start when windows starts" (or similar)
option within the program in question. Failing that, and assuming you're
running XP, the "StartupCPL" patch/update is very useful in that you
can disable the pesky entry as well as *remove* it. The sequence I usually
follow is:
1) startup folder
2) entry under options in program itself
3) msconfig
4) startupCPL

HTH
Jona
 
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