Mobile Athlon 4

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Will a mobile Athlon 4 processor work in a desktop motherboard?
know the XP-M does and is overclocks rather well because it i
unlocked, but I'm not sure about the old palomino Athlon 4. It’
part# AHM1000AVS3B if you want to look it up. It is socket A, bu
I'm not sure about the pin usage
 
professor said:
Anybody have any clue?
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I have several, on various subjects. Can you be a touch more
specific? Before replying, you might read and act on my sig.
below, which might in turn provide you with one.

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I have searched just about every group I can think of and I have onl
found one guy who says he has a mobile Athlon 4 1200 running on
socket A motherboard. I was just wondering if anyone had
definitive answer
 
professor said:
I have searched just about every group I can think of and I have only
found one guy who says he has a mobile Athlon 4 1200 running on a
socket A motherboard. I was just wondering if anyone had a
definitive answer.
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Answer? I've yet to see a question... Well, except for the clue one, which
I've already answered.
 
Noozer said:
Answer? I've yet to see a question... Well, except for the clue
one, which I've already answered.
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It is amazing how many dithering idiots think they can scrawl a few
incomprehensible words, install them in a bottle, throw them off at
sea, and yet expect to get responses explaining the meaning of
life, how to win friends and influence people, how to grow rich,
etc. Even when told how to communicate they don't bother. How do
they survive in the wild?

--
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the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
"show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
"Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson
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Also see <http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/>
 
I have searched just about every group I can think of and I have only
found one guy who says he has a mobile Athlon 4 1200 running on a
socket A motherboard. I was just wondering if anyone had a
definitive answer.
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IIRC (it's been awhile), AMD says no you can't, that the pin
functions are different. The board would have to support
the lower voltage too, though newer boards were more likely
to do so. IIRC, Tom's Hardware managed to run one but I
don't know how... maybe you should read the old Tom's
Hardware reviews/benchmarks/whatever to see if they provided
any hints about what it takes to do it.
http://www.tomshardware.com
 
It is amazing how many dithering idiots think they can scrawl a fe
incomprehensible words, install them in a bottle, throw them off a
sea, and yet expect to get responses explaining the meaning o
life, how to win friends and influence people, how to grow rich
etc. Even when told how to communicate they don't bother. How d
they survive in the wild
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Amazing how blind some people can be. My original question was th
first post on this thread. No one answered it, so it looked as if i
was going to leave the first page of the forum. In response to this
I added, "Anyone have any clue?" to keep it on the firs
page. Evidently, neither of the first two people to respond have th
ability to read two posts in one sitting

Now for the person who can read more than one sentence at a time
IRC (it's been awhile), AMD says no you can't, that the pi
functions are different. The board would have to suppor
the lower voltage too, though newer boards were more likel
to do so. IIRC, Tom's Hardware managed to run one but
don't know how... maybe you should read the old Tom'
Hardware reviews/benchmarks/whatever to see if they provide
any hints about what it takes to do it
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Yeah, I've read that. I believe the pin difference dealt with th
thermal diode which was absent from the old thunderbirds. The XP
had the thermal diode and were even the same core as the mobil
Athlon 4s (Palomino). I'd imagine it could run on a motherboard wit
voltage and clock speed adjusting capabilities that can also ru
Athlon XPs. I’ll just have to install it and find out. The whol
purpose of this thread was to find someone who has already done this
Instead, I found two idiots with incredibly short attention spans.
At least I found one person who is capable of doing something instea
of randomly flaming random threads. I wonder, if they find a pos
that says, “Wow, I didn’t know that!” that happens to be on page 4 o
a thread, do they immediately respond with “Didn’t know what? Yo
idiot! You must explain the entire thread and/or quote every prio
post in your post!” The stupidity of some people amazes me. I be
they actually feel intelligent too…sad. Read the whole thread befor
responding to something that looks incomplete! Especially when th
thread consists of only TWO posts! Jeez
 
professor said:
Amazing how blind some people can be. My original question was the
first post on this thread. No one answered it, so it looked as if it
was going to leave the first page of the forum. In response to this,
I added, "Anyone have any clue?" to keep it on the first
page. Evidently, neither of the first two people to respond have the
ability to read two posts in one sitting.
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You also failed to preserve attributions in your reply (minor
nit). However, what is this "first page" nonsense? You are
apparently under the huge misapprehension that google is usenet.
It is not. Google is only a highly flawed means of interacting
with the much older usenet system. Google has been doing great
harm with its foul interface.

The apparent view you have via google is NOT what is generally
available. It is a gross distortion.

Usenet is a system where text messages are passed all over the
world, and read on demand. There is no guarantee that any message
will ever arrive at any particular station (although the likelihood
is high). There are long standing standards for the format of the
messages, and for usage. Look up such things as rfc1855 and
rfc2822.

Most Usenet users use a newsreader to interact with a news server.
The news server is normally supplied by your ISP. Typical
newsreaders include xnews, netscape, thunderbird, and even the
highly flawed outlook express. The latter is avoided by anyone
knowledgeable. Everything I have named is freely available.
Thunderbird is available for most systems, including Windows,
Linux/Unix, Macs, and others.

--
"If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use
the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
"show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
"Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson
More details at: <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
Also see <http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/>
 
You also failed to preserve attributions in your reply (mino
nit). However, what is this "first page" nonsense? Yo ar
apparently under the huge misapprehension that google is usenet
It is not. Google is only a highly flawed means of interactin
with the much older usenet system. Google has been doing grea
harm with its foul interface

The apparent view you have via google is NOT what is generall
available. It is a gross distortion

Usenet is a system where text messages are passed all over th
world, and read on demand. There is no guarantee that any messag
will ever arrive at any particular station (although the likelihoo
is high). There are long standing standards for the format of th
messages, and for usage. Look up such things as rfc1855 an
rfc2822

Most Usenet users use a newsreader to interact with a news server
The news server is normally supplied by your ISP. Typica
newsreaders include xnews, netscape, thunderbird, and even th
highly flawed outlook express. The latter is avoided by anyon
knowledgeable. Everything I have named is freely available
Thunderbird is available for most systems, including Windows
Linux/Unix, Macs, and others
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Um, I'm not talking about google. I'm not even using google. I'
talking about the howtofixcomputers.com hardware section
 
professor said:
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Um, I'm not talking about google. I'm not even using google. I'm
talking about the howtofixcomputers.com hardware section.
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You have again deleted attributions for material you quote. Those
are the "xxx wrote" header lines.

Apparently you have run into some other interface to the usenet
system. Since you seem to be able to generate adequate context
with it, I won't call it flawed, especially since I have never seen
it, and will never see it. Remember the old saw about the blind
man feeling an elephant. If I had looked at the headers more
closely I would have seen that you are using something called
easynews rather than google.

Whatever you are doing, you are injecting articles into the
alt.comp.hardware newsgroup. This is only one of many available
newsgroups on usenet (there are in excess of 50,000 of them, most
of which are useless). With a newsreader you will not have the
delays of moving pages of html and possibly graphics and
advertising. You can set up your own criteria for groups to
monitor, idiots to ignore, etc.

At any rate, regardless of the reader/interface, it is advisable to
meet the general protocols in use. They have developed over the
years for a purpose.

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- B. Franklin, 1759
"When I want to make a man look like an idiot, I quote him."
-- Mark Twain
"I hear the voices." G W Bush, 2006-04-18
 
You have again deleted attributions for material you quote. Those
are the "xxx wrote" header lines.

Apparently you have run into some other interface to the usenet
system. Since you seem to be able to generate adequate context
with it, I won't call it flawed, especially since I have never seen
it, and will never see it. Remember the old saw about the blind
man feeling an elephant. If I had looked at the headers more
closely I would have seen that you are using something called
easynews rather than google.

Whatever you are doing, you are injecting articles into the
alt.comp.hardware newsgroup. This is only one of many available
newsgroups on usenet (there are in excess of 50,000 of them, most
of which are useless). With a newsreader you will not have the
delays of moving pages of html and possibly graphics and
advertising. You can set up your own criteria for groups to
monitor, idiots to ignore, etc.

At any rate, regardless of the reader/interface, it is advisable to
meet the general protocols in use. They have developed over the
years for a purpose.
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I neither monitor nor care about usenet. I posted this to
howtofixcomputers.com's forum and that is all I monitor. I simply
use their system for posting. It is much like proboards. Where the
board sends its posts is up to the admin, not me.
 
I neither monitor nor care about usenet. I posted this to
howtofixcomputers.com's forum and that is all I monitor. I simply
use their system for posting. It is much like proboards. Where the
board sends its posts is up to the admin, not me.
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No.

It IS usenet. You are being duped into using usenet through
a 3rd party front-end. As such, it is rude and even cause
for banning of your ISP account if you do not adhere to
usenet conventions.

No matter what website you are on, you are responsible for
the destination of your posts. I'm apathetic about the
whole situation brought up in this thread but to make it
clear, howtofixcomputers (et al) is not a web forum, it is
web interface to usenet.
 
konywrote
(professor) wrote


I neither monitor nor care about usenet. I posted this t
howtofixcomputers.com's forum and that is all I monitor. I simpl
use their system for posting. It is much like proboards. Wher th
board sends its posts is up to the admin, not me
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No.

It IS usenet. You are being duped into using usenet throug
a 3rd party front-end. As such, it is rude and even caus
for banning of your ISP account if you do not adhere t
usenet conventions

No matter what website you are on, you are responsible fo
the destination of your posts. I'm apathetic about th
whole situation brought up in this thread but to make i
clear, howtofixcomputers (et al) is not a web forum, it i
web interface to usenet.[/quote:444d046f9b

There, happy? I figured it used usenet because of the usene
addresses next to the various forum addresses, but I still will no
monitor usenet. I only use this forum when I feel like asking
question or when I have some time to check if anyone has an
questions I can answer. I do not want to deal with usenet because
find the whole system rather boring and useless
 
I do not want to deal with usenet because I
find the whole system rather boring and useless.
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LOL.

You are SO confused. Where you are "right now" IS usenet.
Any reason you went to that website was a reason you found
usenet not "boring and useless".
 
konywrote:
(professor) wrote:

I do not want to deal with usenet because I
find the whole system rather boring and useless.
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LOL.

You are SO confused. Where you are "right now" IS usenet.
Any reason you went to that website was a reason you found
usenet not "boring and useless".[/quote:3001c717f0]

Let's see if I can clarify. I realize that I am using usenet, but I
do not want to have a newsgroup sent to me every day so I would much
rather just check it whenever I feel like it in a forum format. Does
that make sense to you?
 
I do not want to deal with usenet because I
find the whole system rather boring and useless.
LOL.
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You are SO confused. Where you are "right now" IS usenet.
Any reason you went to that website was a reason you found
usenet not "boring and useless".[/quote:3001c717f0]
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Let's see if I can clarify. I realize that I am using usenet, but I
do not want to have a newsgroup sent to me every day so I would much
rather just check it whenever I feel like it in a forum format. Does
that make sense to you?
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It makes no sense at all.


There is one primary difference in the way you are accessing
usenet that differs from how everyone else does:

Your interface is a browser loading HTLM and scripts, while
everyone else is using some sort of newsreader application
or an app with greater functionality that also happens to
have the usenet feature/support.

It is merely a matter of what the executible you run is
called and what it is coded to be able to do. In the end
you're not actually doing anything different except that
when you use that webpage, it is not following correct
usenet conventions such as the indentations and attribution
to prior authors, which I've corrected above.

Perhaps you should just follow the conventions of the forum
you are accessing and not use it if you find that a problem.
Take the bad with the good instead of causing problems for
others (like improper posting). It would be a shame but
I'll probably just plonk everything coming from
howtofixcomputers since they don't seem to have interest in
correct usenet etiquette.
 
professor said:
konywrote:
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(professor) wrote:

I do not want to deal with usenet because I
find the whole system rather boring and useless.
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LOL.

You are SO confused. Where you are "right now" IS usenet.
Any reason you went to that website was a reason you found
usenet not "boring and useless".[/quote:3001c717f0]

Let's see if I can clarify. I realize that I am using usenet, but I
do not want to have a newsgroup sent to me every day so I would much
rather just check it whenever I feel like it in a forum format. Does
that make sense to you?
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That statement makes it fairly clear as to what the misunderstanding is. What
you have in mind is subscribing to a "mailing list" where the individual
messages can be sent to you, the subscriber, as they are sent or can be
accumulated and sent to you in "digest" form. Sometimes those mailing lists are
"gatewayed" to a newsgroup on Usenet, but that is far far from always being the
case. Those are "mailing lists" and very definitely are not Usenet, but that is
what you just described.

We who follow newsgroups in Usenet use various software from Microsoft,
Netscape, Mozilla, Xnews, and others too numerous to mention to read newsgroups.
You are using a web interface to simulate what our software does and it does it
poorly. Google also has such a web interface and its design flaws are also
causing problems whenever people use it.

In short, try using a true newsreader such as Thunderbird, for example, which is
available for Mac, linux, & MS operating systems. Then you will begin to
understand what the true Usenet experience is. Give it a test drive. You have
nothing to lose.

HTH
Bob
 
Robert said:
professor wrote:
.... snip ...

That statement makes it fairly clear as to what the
misunderstanding is. What you have in mind is subscribing to a
"mailing list" where the individual messages can be sent to you,
the subscriber, as they are sent or can be accumulated and sent
to you in "digest" form. Sometimes those mailing lists are
"gatewayed" to a newsgroup on Usenet, but that is far far from
always being the case. Those are "mailing lists" and very
definitely are not Usenet, but that is what you just described.

We who follow newsgroups in Usenet use various software from
Microsoft, Netscape, Mozilla, Xnews, and others too numerous to
mention to read newsgroups. You are using a web interface to
simulate what our software does and it does it poorly. Google
also has such a web interface and its design flaws are also
causing problems whenever people use it.

In short, try using a true newsreader such as Thunderbird, for
example, which is available for Mac, linux, & MS operating
systems. Then you will begin to understand what the true Usenet
experience is. Give it a test drive. You have nothing to lose.
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To amplify a bit, with a newsreader you will be able to examine a
list of headers, consisting largely of Subject and sender, properly
threaded, and easily choose which, if any, articles to read. You
will only get that header list when and if you decide to examine
that particular newsgroup.

With many newsreaders you can also choose to download a particular
newsgroup for offline reading. Note the word "choose". Offline
reading has the advantage that you are disconnected from the
internet, and thus impervious to evil things.

I use the offline download. This means about 10 minutes per day
connection time at 56k baud to handle something like 20 newsgroups,
some of which have high traffic volume. This also means I can
reexamine my replies before transmitting them, after recovering
from my initial indignation, and then edit or delete them.

--
"If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use
the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
"show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
"Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson
More details at: <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
Also see <http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/>
 
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