T
Tony Hill
Ahh excellent! I bought a CD from the music download site Puretracks
a while back, and let me tell you, the $5 or so I save vs. buying the
CD was definitely NOT worth it! Anytime you change ANYTHING to do
with these files you need to renew the license, and that is usually
much more trouble that it should be. Also Puretracks only lets you
download the songs 3 times, and since making a backup of the WMA files
is seen as pirating the music, it's a lot easier to lose these files
than to lose a CD (well, for me at least.. I've definitely lost more
hard drives than I have audio CDs).
At least this new hack will make things a little bit better, possibly
even acceptable for buying singles, though I think I'll stick to CDs
(and ONLY CDs with no copy protection root-kits and such crap) for
buying full-length albums.
N
nobody
J
jack
: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:22:30 -0400, Tony Hill
:
:: On 29 Aug 2006 10:36:46 -0700, "YKhan" <[email protected]>
:: wrote:
::
::: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34021
::
:: Ahh excellent! I bought a CD from the music download site
:: Puretracks a while back, and let me tell you, the $5 or so I
:: save vs. buying the CD was definitely NOT worth it! Anytime
:: you change ANYTHING to do with these files you need to renew
:: the license, and that is usually much more trouble that it
:: should be. Also Puretracks only lets you download the songs
:: 3 times, and since making a backup of the WMA files is seen
:: as pirating the music, it's a lot easier to lose these files
:: than to lose a CD (well, for me at least.. I've definitely
:: lost more hard drives than I have audio CDs).
::
:: At least this new hack will make things a little bit better,
:: possibly even acceptable for buying singles, though I think
:: I'll stick to CDs (and ONLY CDs with no copy protection
:: root-kits and such crap) for buying full-length albums.
::
:: -------------
:: Tony Hill
:: hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca
:
: For easier solution: http://www.emule.org/
Oh now that is just toooo funny!! ;-)
j.
:
:: On 29 Aug 2006 10:36:46 -0700, "YKhan" <[email protected]>
:: wrote:
::
::: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34021
::
:: Ahh excellent! I bought a CD from the music download site
:: Puretracks a while back, and let me tell you, the $5 or so I
:: save vs. buying the CD was definitely NOT worth it! Anytime
:: you change ANYTHING to do with these files you need to renew
:: the license, and that is usually much more trouble that it
:: should be. Also Puretracks only lets you download the songs
:: 3 times, and since making a backup of the WMA files is seen
:: as pirating the music, it's a lot easier to lose these files
:: than to lose a CD (well, for me at least.. I've definitely
:: lost more hard drives than I have audio CDs).
::
:: At least this new hack will make things a little bit better,
:: possibly even acceptable for buying singles, though I think
:: I'll stick to CDs (and ONLY CDs with no copy protection
:: root-kits and such crap) for buying full-length albums.
::
:: -------------
:: Tony Hill
:: hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca
:
: For easier solution: http://www.emule.org/
Oh now that is just toooo funny!! ;-)
j.
J
Jan Panteltje
I have been with this for years:
http://www.all ofmp 3.com/
remove the spaces, it seems showing a link these days is considered a crime
T
Tony Hill
Hmm... paying for quasi-legal downloaded of music? Not my cup of tea
thank you! At best this is exploiting loopholes in Fair Use laws.
Now I would be lying to say that I have never downloaded any
copyrighted songs, but I do try to actually go out and buy the album
if it's any good.
J
Jan Panteltje
Quasi legal? It is 100% legal in Russia.
And why not pay? You cannot get the mp3 anywhere else legally.
And the mp3 is what I need, or else I would be -illegally- making a backup CD
by cracking some protection.
That and that site has a very large collection, and prices are a fraction of
what others ask for stuff that you cannot even burn to a disk.
Hollywood is clearly still not getting the picture, and the picture is:
'consumer is king'.
They will find out.
I'd buy from them if I could get a mp3.
Now they are even suing if you publish some guitar music......
It is a sick US habit.
What I really liked was what I did read today:
In Germany some university did research how many TV people watch,
now that analog TV has been replaced by digital.
They found people watch only 1/3 as much!!
The reason is that now the people use digital programming guides to make
a selection out of the hundreds of programs.
This must hit advertisers hard.........
And I have been doing that, using these guides now for years...
That brings up the question of 'recording' too.
The hole digital stuff was 'sold' on the basis of more channels, more people
to watch the adds....
What will really happen, believe it or not, is that if DRM persists, and gets
more annoying, people will just stop listening to the music.. spend their time
in an other way.
Not worth the trouble to bother with all that crap, stuff Holliwood sells is
not really _that_ good.
Go to a theatre, attend a concert, _same price!!!!_
People have cameras, websites, make their own stuff.
Often better then the profies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck:_In_the_Pirkinning
http://www.starwreck.com/
And refreshing after Hollywofobia.
Download it, it is fun.
Y
YKhan
Tony said:
I took at look at the utility, FairUse4WM, today, and it looks like it
still needs the original key before it can remove it. So it doesn't
look like it's going to be piracy free-for-all, as somebody must buy it
first.
Yousuf Khan
N
Neil Maxwell
As a dedicated fan of many types of music, I can tell you that's not
going to happen! I believe the profile of music may change.
Niches will open up and be filled by the aggressive and adventurous.
The big labels will either adapt or lose ground over time to the
niches.
Around here (San Jose, CA), a movie for 4 runs about $36. The last
concert I went to (Rob Zombie in San Francisco) was $110 for 4 of us
($25/ticket and service charge), and that's a pretty cheap concert
around here. The big names can easily run $40-60 and more.
The concert consumed 6 hours of the day, while a movie rarely takes
more than 2.5 hours. Now, Rob Zombie was a much better show than most
movies, IMO, but not every concert is that good.
We see a lot more movies than concerts. It's a good casual way to
blow a few hours and a few bucks with the kids, and everyone enjoys
it.
DRM doesn't really play into the theater experience, anyway. That's
more a problem with the home video experience. It'll be interesting
to see where the HD media wars go.
J
Jan Panteltje
Yes, I counted today and I have more then 76 free to air satellite channels.
So usually (like now) there are movies on (A type), I can record digital
on the PC, time shift, there are 2 FTA HD channels.
So sometimes I program the recorder for the next day... But disk is almost
full of movies.... I have not felt like watching yet.
There are plans to make one satellite a pay service... I would just drop
that satellite from the list
The only ones who would notice would be the advertisers.
Some musicians already sell music via their own website.
Do not get me wrong, I buy CDs, but not anything with root kits and related
crap... no way.
Yes going to a movie may be expensive too, but cheaper then spending 3 hours
cleaning your PC from viruses, Trojan horses, root kits etc...
Not to mention download time, perhaps a charge for bandwidth (not here),
disk space, hell these days they send you to life in prison if you download
airline schedules and say 'I love Osama' on the Internet, and have a bottle
of shampoo in your hand luggage ;-).
It is all getting completely idiotic.
What a d*mn mess has GWBush made in those few years.
Enemies everywhere.
G
George Macdonald
You're watching too much cheap news again Jan.
J
Jan Panteltje
CNN, NYtimes, us.politcs, German TV, Dutch news....
Consensus is they all are pro US, but they all seem a bit fed up with GWBush.
I was referring to the UK liquid explosives scare.
Before that mad man came we had a society where you could just travel without
all that paranoia.
Now wait till he nukes Iran....
N
nobody
With all W's deficiencies that I wouldn't even enumerate for there are
way too many, he still deserves more respect than the spineless,
liberal, "politically correct" EU leaders.
This can't happen too soon, IMHO. Better nuke the mad mullahs then
get nuked by them. BTW Jan, the USA is well out of range of Iranian
missiles, while EU is quite within, or will be soon. If you hope the
mullahs will limit themselves to hitting at Israel (which
unfortunately is also within their range), you are up to a big
disappointment. Hopefully W will not wait until the range will cover
the US as well.
NNN
G
George Macdonald
Yep, like I said, cheap news. Hate mongering sells "seats"; people love to
have a target for their inate hate.
Pure rabble-babble. You seem to be forgetting the near-miss on bringing
down WTC while Clinton was in power. Of course that was when the Islamic
terror network was less well established and before they started murdering
your politicians in the streets. If you think so much of NYT, perhaps
you'll take the time to read
http://www.wehaitians.com/the philosopher of islamic terror.html
Time to waken up son.
J
Jan Panteltje
??????????????????? Well you will have to apologise to Germany and the
Netherlands, and your own CNN too.
These are reasonably objective (taking into account culture), why
you just have this fix on whatever the US republican party feeds you today.
And sad enough believe every single word of that crap.
Oh, I was under the impression some Saudi prince, just after his family
met with GW Bush, went to the desert with some AV equipment, and had some
suckers, some of who did not even know it was anything other then a hijack,
fly into the WTC while same GWBush & clan stopped alert messages from
the FBI that told him repeatedly there were some guys taking flying lessons
overheard planning to fly a 747 into some buildings.
Any person with an IQ greater or equal to his age can see that it was an
attempt to: Take power, raise oil prices, limit freedoms.
So that is the news ***YOU*** read, well, I stay with CNN, ARD, NOS.
Yea, how about it, stop talking in your sleep
J
Jan Panteltje
The situation has escaled in the following way:
Iran get the bomb, nukes Israel.
Possibly US will retaliate.
or
US nukes Iran first, and then Iran will send a secret spare one they made
without you knowing about it to Israel.
Or Israel will nuke Iran first, and then be invaded by all other countries.
So why not let US nuke Israel _and_ Iran?
And lets all live in peace ;-)
Well, because there a a lot of Russian interests in Iran, and US depends
on oil from Iran.
So however you slice it (there are many more ways to slice it), the only
way out is politics, not violence.
Never in history has violence not be met with violence.
This is what the EU is doing, despite strong efforts by US to escalate
the situation, a Bolton pressuring UN to pass law to do mil invasion.
No, Iran will not attack Europe, if it did, it would meet with a French
nuclear response, or even Russian.
But you better think twice about nuking Iran, as Russia (H bombs) and
China (A bombs) have very large interests there.
A 'preemptive' strike nu-cu-lear or not, will open the door to -any_
country doing the same, not a good idea.
And nobody want US culture here, French cooking is much better the
all that fast food, less death by kids running about with machine guns,
nobody has guns in my country, same for UK, we do not need US in Europe,
and you TV system sucks too.
N
nobody
Even though there are very few Jews left in Europe, anti-semitism
still thrives there - your suggestion to nuke Israel is a proof.
Can't you get over with the idea that Jews have as much right to live
_and_ have a state of their own as any of you Europeans?
Lumping together the victim of constant terror and military threats -
Israel, and the perpetrator - Iran (who owns Hezbolla and pulls
strings in Hamas?) is so indicative of European approach. Could be
worse - some Europeans would suggest to nuke Israel to appease Iran.
You already tried appeasement - in Munich 1938.
Wrong. The US hasn't bought a single drop of Iranian oil since
Khomeini thugs stormed the embassy. That's you in EU who depend - and
it shows.
Like Munich 1938. Too many Chamberlains in today's Europe, and not a
single Churchill in sight :-(
And it's EU who demands restraint from Israel (but somehow not from
Arabs).
It's a muslim tradition to commit suicide murder. Consider the
Iranian attack (thank God just hypothetical - for now) to be a
countrywide shahid's belt.
Neither Russia nor China have shahid traditions. They will sure raise
a diplomatic stink but will not start WW3, at least not on behest of
Iranian mullahs.
It's limited to 7.5 countries that possess the means to strike.
US, GB, France, Russia, and China already demonstrated that they are
responsible countries and will not start all-out war. A limited
preventive strike on Iran wouldn't change that. It will only teach
others the lesson that the nuclear club accepts no new members and
allows no forced entry. Maybe Kim will pay attention.
India and Pakistan don't threaten anyone, except each other. The
thing will be limited to the subcontinent and well contained. No
worry here.
Israel (.5 - their nuclear capability is not officially declared,
though no doubt about it) will use the nukes only in case of a real
and credible existential threat. Either an all-out Arab attack, or
mullahs get too close to the nukes. There is too much of a risk that
they will throw the bomb at Israel the very moment it is assembled, so
it must be pre-empted if all else fails.
Then how come McD. makes money in EU? Nobody pushes customers in at
gunpoint. And Tinseltown movies attract more viewers than European
production, which is sad - I better love French and Italian movies
when they are well dubbed into any language I understand.
Agree, fast food suxx, especially McD. However IMHO a simple
good-sized well-prepared steak is better than all French cuisine
combined. This is though a matter of taste and as such is protected
by 1st Amendment - you in EU must have something similar on the books.
And I'd have French wine with that steak ;-)
You have watched too many Hollywood movies. In my 15++ years in the
US, 6 of them in NYC, I've seen real machine guns (M16) only in the
hands of airport security right after 9/11. And the only pistols I've
seen in the streets were attached to cops' belts.
Oh, yeah, even the Bobbies don't have guns, even when there's a need
they are limited to the clubs ;-(
Except that the US saved your European a$$es in 2 World Wars, and the
Cold War on top of that. If not for that, you'd be all now speaking
German - or maybe Russian. You've got too complacent now that there
is no threat to your liberal affluent way of life. But wait, as soon
as there is a new threat (Islam or whatever else) you'll look to Uncle
Sam, and will toe the line. Or you'd rather pray to Mecca 5 times a
day and make all girls wear chadors?
NTSC? Not my area of expertise to judge, and anyway in a few years it
will make way to HD. But this is the least of the thing I care for.
Rgds,
NNN
G
George Macdonald
CNN is nothing to me. As for the Dutch & Germans I can't imagine they're
any better than Bimbo Broadcasting Corp over in the U.K.... sad really: BBC
used to be a world benchmark for accurate reporting; now it's just another
Telebloid/Webloid selling seats to the rabble.
I have no allegiance to Republican<gag, Democrat<ptui> or any other
self-serving ideology. You need to learn to think for yourself and quit
swallowing the idealogical crap they're feeding you. You're being
manipulated like a little piece wood on the end of a string.
Sorry, but all the conspiracist theories have been discredited... including
the one about the "rocket" which hit the Pentagon. said:
Hahahaha - just like Reds Under the Bed! You're worse than Joe McArthy.
Obviously you haven't read it - it's not just news. It's an in-depth
(unknown term to CNN et.al.) analysis of the most influential piece of
Islamic literature of the 20th century and the inspiration for the current
Islamic extremist agenda. It's heavy reading but well, if you're not up to
it...<shrug> If developed cultures ignore this they are dead.
CNN?.. intellectual hamburger 'n' fries!
The troubles in Western Europe now are all self-induced: instead of paying
attention and being wary of a culture which preaches medieval era doctrines
to justify Inquisition-type tactics, with a power-mad megalomaniac
figurehead, you and you're govts. are pandering to the bastards... inviting
them in fer chrissakes... apologizing for *their* behaviors. When you lot
waken up it'll be too late - you'll be living in The United Caliphate of
Eurabia. Hey, better read up on Shariah, or your head will come off.
J
Jan Panteltje
You did not notice ';-)' it seems.
OTOH any _religion_ based state, say Israel, Iran, Pakistan (to a lesser
extend), is based on what I would call 'illusion'.
It is not the religion .. religion is like that medicine man dancing
for the rain-god, nothing to do with the things the _founders_,
those whose words were aped to for the religion, came for, and preached.
Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Mohammed, all were referring to the fact that
'God', 'heaven', is an internal experience, 'The kingdom of heaven is within'.
Meditation can make you realize.... remember Jesus overthrew the benches with
merchandise in the temple.
The external show people started after them, is called 'religion', and aped
from generation to generation, you grow up a Jew in a Jewish family.
Muslim in a Muslim family, Hindu in a Hindu family, etc.. with high
probability.
Babies have no religion, no concepts, and do not do a rain dance for water.
So to recapitulate, a _religious_ controlled state is by its very nature
based on illusions, and as such can only conflict with other religious
based states that are of course based on _other_ illusions.
So no way should one even _dream_ of supporting these structures.
Politicians use these differences to climb the ladder of power, over the
heads of people who do not understand these basics, as do religious leaders.
It is not normally in their interest to make the people aware, it is
only in their interest they are voted for, bowed for, and there is the
basis of what is happening.
So do not ask me to support Israel, or Jews, or Islam, or whatever.
The kingdom of heaven is within (c), and only when we look inside will
be be able to respect other lives and ways of life and be able to
live in a multicultural society.
However, if these religious fanatics do not want to give up their pet ways
of worshipping, and start fighting each other with nukes, then yes, destroy
both of them if they become a danger to the rest of humanity too.
As for Julius GW BUSH Caesar, he is just a Saudi agent, he does not give a
dime for any US people, even less for others.
Look at it from the Saudi POV.
First they buy Bush Sr, then his (total failure alcoholic) son.
They secretly convert him to Islam, he stops drinking, and runs for
president, financed by Saudi money.
Now what is Saudi interest? They want higher prices for the oil (they know it
will run out one day), so Iraq and Iran are competition.
They need to sell lots of it themselves..
So first Iraq is prevented from export of oil by sanctions, then later as
that is not enough, it is destroyed completely, so it cannot really produce
anything, and now Iran must be destroyed, also competition.
Russia had big interests in Iraq too, so a deal is made with Putin,
and also pipelines will be in Afghanistan. but you cannot really invade
Afghanistan just like that, so they make Taliban the scapegoat, and the Saudi
princes get together, make a plan, one of them, Osama, will find some
'extremists' and finance their flying lessons, and do the PR from a safe
place in the desert, while the extremists get some help and fly into a few
buildings in NY.
Bush knows all this, he convenes with the Saudi prices and is in business
with them. [Stopped FBI messages about hijackers].
Maybe they did not expect the twin towers to completely collapse, maybe it
worked out more then they expected, but now 'America was at war' and Julius
GW Bush Caesar could get permission to make war from congress, and invade
Afghanistan, start bombing Iraq.
Oil exporting countries were now his allies (kill the competition).
The limit was reached when Bush wanted to allow the Saudi prices to take
control of the Saudi harbours.....
Since then it is down in the polls with the Saudi mole.
Somebody must have figured out the plot, to find the plot: follow the money!
Saudi Arabia has received zillions and zillions over the years, they have all
power.
Now US people have higher taxes, less respect overseas, bigger national
deficit, an army nobody takes serious anymore, more violence, and as Saudi
princes take control of your land, first there will be more mosques, then you
will only get a job if you convert to Islam, and torture becomes normal.
And _you_ want us Europeans to just be dummies and play along?
J
Jan Panteltje
I do not follow BBC news, I know that, and I stopped watching
'UK parliament channel' after I did see the stand up comedian Tony Blair
do a cheap imitation of your great leader.
OK, +++ for you, my apologies.
No that was a plane, I did see the movie from the security cam.
You got to use reality, see my other posting.
See my other post in on this subject.
Well,, I did no tread it (put me off after a quick glance), because I _know_
the mechanism used, see my explanation in the other post.
Yes, I always think "Never longer then 3 seconds on one subject, no depth'.
But they try, but really if I had to dance to the Bush song I could not
go in depth either.
Careers..... I have worked in broadcasting, some of my old colleges would
have blacked the screen if somebody like Bush or Hitler came on.
I was so much more inexperienced then, I likely would have followed orders,
I am wiser then that now.
See my other reply on this subject that also goes to us.politics and
alt.politics.euope.
Really, the joke is on the US.