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chrisv
MSFT market cap is 280B. AMD is exactly 3.5% of that.
Remarkable. Of course, poor AMD is in one of those semi-obsolete
industries where you actually need factories to manufacture a product,
unlike M$...
MSFT market cap is 280B. AMD is exactly 3.5% of that.
chrisv said:Remarkable. Of course, poor AMD is in one of those semi-obsolete
industries where you actually need factories to manufacture a product,
unlike M$...
I think you could argue that MS' campus in Seattle with tens of
thousands of programmers qualifies as a "software factory".
Aren't cheap for whom? As of today AMD market cap stands at 9.8B - a
nice chunk of change for anyone, but, let's see...
MSFT market cap is 280B. AMD is exactly 3.5% of that. Buying it
outright will result in less of MSFT stock move than some
not-really-remarkable trading days produced. And there is no need to
buy the whole thing - about 25% would be enough to stuff AMD board
with MS people and dictate the directions. The only question: is MS
really up to making their own chips, or it's just a baseless rumor?
chrisv said:Remarkable. Of course, poor AMD is in one of those semi-obsolete
industries where you actually need factories to manufacture a product,
unlike M$...
Zak said:It may also be that a lot of MS stock is in the hands of insiders and is
not traded. This can drive up the price. If all stock would be on the
market, the price would be a lot lower.
This would scare Intel. Who will then fully support Linux, just to
ensure their own future. Which would not be what MS wants. Thus?
Thomas
Intel talks a lot of BS, it's all part of trying to keep their stock
price from hitting rock bottom. 80 cores glued together, that should be
something! lol!
Bernd Paysan said:Remarkable. [...]MSFT market cap is 280B. AMD is exactly 3.5% of that.
Yes, really remarkable. The downside of not needing factories to manufacture
a product is that you can often download the competition for free.
Why didn't the pension funds take out their money [that is invested
in MS]? Because they fear to lose the rest? They will,
anyhow. Whatever you do, if you put your money into a bubble, it
is gone afterwards.
Sun actually
fits the bill in terms of cash, but anti-trust issues (namely Solaris)
may get in the way. The most logical candidate is AMD - both top
notch x86 and high end graphics in one not-so-big gulp, no software or
other strings attached.
As anti-trust laws also restrict *vertical* ...
Poor linuxoids - they wouldn't touch anything MS, so there will be no
more AMD for them. Nor ATi. <grin/>
And if (in this hypothetical situation) Intel will not keep their best
effort to support Windows and to be #1 performer on Windows, guess
what? Corporations will rather switch their hardware base to
competition than switch their software platform. How much is a server
(the box itself)? A few 1000$. The apps running on it? Easily tens
of 1000$, possibly millions. Go count replacement costs.
To sum it up, if Intel (or any hardware maker, for that matter) loses
its focus on MS in favor of Linux or Mac or whatever else, they risk
to be relegated to the ranks of niche players. Even if tomorrow MS
buys AMD, and VIA, TMTA, and NVDA to round things up, Intel will still
listen to Redmond, or it soon will be no more.
krw said:Just what "relatively small start up" has a bleeding edge CPU these
days? How many "relatively small start up" CPU companies are there
these days? Now, I could see them trying to tackle a graphics chip
(nvidia?).
AirRaid said:http://tinyurl.com/ydtq7k (nytimes.com)
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200610/063.asp
http://tinyurl.com/yadece (teamxbox.com)
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68767
it seems Microsoft will try to design its own multi-core CPUs.