Machine reboots unexpectedly -help.

[half_pint]

Most likely. Don't pay attention to the people who are tellin ya it's a heat problem, cause uh, you
would know. I mean either it'd be makin like hella loud grinding noises or it wouldn't be making
any noise at all. And those people who were tellin ya yer system ain't gettin enough power, yeah
they're full of shit too. Keep in mind that a lot of the "advice" you're getting is from kiddie
gamers who overclock and burn their systems on a regular basis and buy components that actually DO
use up more power than what the PS is capable of outputting.

Unless you're tryin to put in a new Radeon graphics card, a CD or DVD burner, or some other huge
power suckin peripheral...yeah, it ain't a power issue. And again, you would know, the minute you
even try to burn a CD/DVD or play a game, BOOM, it'll reset/shutdown. It's not like it'd happen
randomly from any where from 2 to 20 minutes in.

Most people, when troubleshooting, tend to go with what they've

experienced, rather than with common

sense.

Common sense tells us that the kind of memory you buy off eBay is a "pull", 90% of the time from a
refurbished market grade piecer, like an Emachine or a Dell and it simply isn't gonna work very
well. It's like buying a used Celeron processor, I mean a Celeron is a ****in beater to begin with,
so if you by a used beater...yeah, it's gonna have problems.


You know you might also wanna think about installing AdAware and scanning your system on a regular
basis (and of course making sure to update it).

Well its been almost 24 hours now, although I have not used the
machine much today it is looking very much like the memory.
I have had on probs with the old memory so far (half of which was also
purchased on ebay by the way)
Question is what do I do with the old memory? I could put
it all back in and put up with the freezes and occasional
reboot.
Also will all the boards have failed? that would seem
perhaps unlikely but not impossible especially if the git who
sold me them knew they were faulty.

If only one board is faulty I should be able to find out which one
is faulty by swapping, assuming they will all 'match' with each other.

Then maybe I would only need to buy one board, however
they are normally sold in matched pairs. As I now understand it
'matching' memory only mean its is the 'same' kind, speed, size
and voltage.

The problem is the memory 'almost works'.

 

[half_pint]

you're
getting is from kiddie
experienced, rather than with common simply
isn't gonna work very scanning
your system on a regular
Well its been almost 24 hours now, although I have not used the
machine much today it is looking very much like the memory.
I have had on probs with the old memory so far (half of which was also
purchased on ebay by the way)
Question is what do I do with the old memory? I could put
it all back in and put up with the freezes and occasional
reboot.
Also will all the boards have failed? that would seem
perhaps unlikely but not impossible especially if the git who
sold me them knew they were faulty.

If only one board is faulty I should be able to find out which one
is faulty by swapping, assuming they will all 'match' with each other.

Then maybe I would only need to buy one board, however
they are normally sold in matched pairs. As I now understand it
'matching' memory only mean its is the 'same' kind, speed, size
and voltage.

The problem is the memory 'almost works'.

I guess I need to do some reading about failed memory.

 

[~misfit~]

I like me too. ^_^

That's always a good thing, in moderation. ;-)

Oh, oh, so ya don't like teh xpostin, huh? Yeah, I see how it is,
not wanting to share with the other groups...tsch, tsch, tsch...it
can lead to stagnation of regs you know. Sometimes, a group needs a
lil xpostin, for promotion if nothing else.

Looks like we disagree on this one. I've found groups quickly become
unmanageable with excess xposting, especially to other groups not closely
related. I don't mind sharing knowledge at all, what I don't like is
120-post threads xposted to alt.alien.vampire, alt.flonk.flonk.flonk or
alt.karl.marlden.nose (for instance) that have digressed to the extent where
they have no bearing on the original subject. Clutters up the group and
makes it too easy to miss valuable info/a chance to help someone when you
just mark the thread as read out of frustration.

WOW, ya know I think this is like the first group EVER that hasn't
started pointing their grubby little fingers and screaming TROLL the
minute I started posting...you peeps got thick skin...I like that.
`, )

<g> Some people have no idea of what a troll actually is, they just like the
word.

 

[~misfit~]

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

Common sense tells us that the kind of memory you buy off eBay is a
"pull", 90% of the time from a refurbished market grade piecer, like
an Emachine or a Dell and it simply isn't gonna work very well. It's
like buying a used Celeron processor, I mean a Celeron is a ****in
beater to begin with, so if you by a used beater...yeah, it's gonna
have problems.

Hey! I bought a used Celeron 600 real cheap and have had it running at 900
24/7 faultlessly for two years now as my LAN internet gateway/mp3 player.
For what I paid for it it's an excellent CPU. Good price/performance ratio.

Just had to butt in with that, carry on.......

 

[CBFalconer]

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
.... snip ...

Looks like we disagree on this one. I've found groups quickly
become unmanageable with excess xposting, especially to other
groups not closely related. I don't mind sharing knowledge at all,
what I don't like is 120-post threads xposted to alt.alien.vampire,
alt.flonk.flonk.flonk or alt.karl.marlden.nose (for instance) that
have digressed to the extent where they have no bearing on the
original subject. Clutters up the group and makes it too easy to
miss valuable info/a chance to help someone when you just mark the
thread as read out of frustration.

If you treat cross-posting as a mechanism to post a query across
multiple groups, then a few simple rules handle it.

1. Only the original poster cross-posts.
2. He also sets follow-ups to one of the newsgroup he watches.

 

[half_pint]

Sometimes my machine reboots unexpectedly maybe once
or twice a day.
I am at a loss to no why, could be hardware or software?

I must add it reboots as if you had pressed the power button
off, ie there is no warning or error message prior to reboot.

Sometime it reboots immediately other times I have to press
the power button.

I am thinking a hardware problem perhaps?
It is as if it 'trips out' ie it draws too much power and trips
an electro magnetic 'off' switch.(Do PC's have one?)
Maybe my on/off button is faulty?

I have added an extra drive and memory recently, as well as
a different (*cheap*) mouse/ mouse driver, also have a cdrom and a cdrw
which may be less likely causes (seemed to predate problem).

I also have problems with OE freezing sometimes and I have
to reboot manually, could this be related?

Sounds a bit of a messs doesn't it? Any ideas?
I don't know that much about PC hardware so thats why I am
asking here, I assume some of you are more familiar with its
funcction than I am.

Basically can software cause such a reboot or is it only hardware
probs which would cause this?


Any advice appreciated.

PS the prob tends to occur when using OE but not always,
it happens as I am booting up sometimes too ( to add to the
confusion (LOL)). I can never remember it occuring when I
am playing yahoo pool or chattting online for instance?

Once again thanks in advance for any ideas?
I could put my old memory back and remove the exra drive if it helps,
but I am not that keen on messing with the hardware as it
doesn't happen *that* often, just a few minutes to reboot basically
but I would like to know the cause.

I am 50/50 as to whether it is hardware of software, but I don't
know really.

Thanks half_pint.

Testing with my old memory shows the new memory I added to almost
certaintly be at fault.
Fortunately I just checked my ebay account and I still have another 4 weeks
to leave feedback to the guy who sold me the ram.
If he is unable to offer a refund I will leave negative feedback so things
are looking up. He has had no negative feed back in 127 sales in the
past 6 months so hopefully he will be keen to resolve the matter.

 

[half_pint]

Most likely. Don't pay attention to the people who are tellin ya it's a heat problem, cause uh, you
would know. I mean either it'd be makin like hella loud grinding noises or it wouldn't be making
any noise at all. And those people who were tellin ya yer system ain't gettin enough power, yeah
they're full of shit too. Keep in mind that a lot of the "advice" you're getting is from kiddie
gamers who overclock and burn their systems on a regular basis and buy components that actually DO
use up more power than what the PS is capable of outputting.

Unless you're tryin to put in a new Radeon graphics card, a CD or DVD burner, or some other huge
power suckin peripheral...yeah, it ain't a power issue. And again, you would know, the minute you
even try to burn a CD/DVD or play a game, BOOM, it'll reset/shutdown. It's not like it'd happen
randomly from any where from 2 to 20 minutes in.

Most people, when troubleshooting, tend to go with what they've

experienced, rather than with common

sense.

Common sense tells us that the kind of memory you buy off eBay is a "pull", 90% of the time from a
refurbished market grade piecer, like an Emachine or a Dell and it simply isn't gonna work very
well. It's like buying a used Celeron processor, I mean a Celeron is a ****in beater to begin with,
so if you by a used beater...yeah, it's gonna have problems.


You know you might also wanna think about installing AdAware and scanning your system on a regular
basis (and of course making sure to update it).

Well I am now 100% certain it is the ram I bought on ebay.
Fortunately its only 2 months since I bought it so I can still
leave feedback, I think, although I have already left positive
feedback, but I assume I can change that.
Hopefully the seller will offer a refund or replacement memory.

 

[Andy Foster]

Sometimes my machine reboots unexpectedly maybe once
or twice a day.
I am at a loss to no why, could be hardware or software?

I am 50/50 as to whether it is hardware of software, but I don't
know really.

Thanks half_pint.

Try using a widescreen monitor - they use a lot less power - that should fix it

 

[half_pint]

"half_pint" <[email protected]> wrote in message


Try using a widescreen monitor - they use a lot less power - that should

fix it.

Actually I have put the 'faulty' memory back, just to be sure, before I
started chasing the guy who sold it to me. I have had zero probs
in 5 hours of use, despite my attempts to make it fail.
I would have expected a few freezes or a reboot by now, I am thinking
perhaps the memory was not cleanly inserted in the slot perhaps?

I am not sure wether I should be happy or sad though as I might
have enjoyed chasing the seller.

Widescreen monitors use more power than normal ones, but anyway
they do not feed of the PC's internal supply.

You know as much about PC's as you do about film making
apparently.

half_pint.