Lost Windows - Resetting Window Positions

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So what server do you post to?
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If you knew how to read a newsgroup header you would know. Since you
apparently don't, I'll help you out. This is how your post reached me:

beE1!out03b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!
news.usenetserver.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!
newshub.sdsu.edu!msrtrans!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

You read the above from the end backwards, right to left. All the
listings you see are "hops" (usually routers) that your message made
to go from the news server you posted up to that eventually reached
mine and everyone else's. So you can see I'm using usenetserver.com.
The path will be different for each poster and recipient of any
message read. That's the beauty of Usenet. There are hundreds of TB's
worth of traffic daily. About .000001% of it passes through
Microsoft's sever. Starting to understand how much you're missing or
how silly you sound when you say Microsoft will "ban" or censor
something? That's like saying you're going to remove a grain of sand
from a beach. Who cares.
I am using Outlook and am attached to
msnews.microsoft.com. Sorry if I am not up on the latest usenet/server
lingo, but how do you do it?
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Outlook isn't attached to anything. By default it simply points to MS.
Just like when you first installed Windows and used Microsoft's
browser it made one of their web sites your home page until you
changed it, assuming you did. You can point Outlook Express or
whatever you use as a news reader to any news server you want. In fact
you can use most as you do a browser and access dozens, even hundreds
of different news servers. There are thousands of others out there and
no they don't all carry the same groups or retain posts the same
length of time.

By using just the MS news server you are severely limiting what you
see as to other newsgroups. There are well in excess of 100,000 other
newsgroups. While many are nearly empty or just spam traps, there are
many thousands of very good newsgroups covering an entire universe of
topics. Many computer related that don't have the Microsoft bias.

Its a big world on Usenet. You probably haven't see 1% of it.
 
Yes, I know that you don't use MS servers. What do you use? Since I have
set up Outlook express to attach to msnews.microsoft.com, I never had a
reason to go anywhere else. Can you elaborate on the subject? It would be
appreciated.
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I went into more details in another post. I haven't visited MS's news
server in many years so things may have changed. If it still is like
it was they only carry their own newsgroups, not general Usenet.

Why would anyone care? Because you're missing most of Usenet. There
are easily hundreds of different newsgroups devoted to every area of
computers and that just scratches the surface. There are newsgroups
that cover nearly any topic you can think of. For example if you
suffer from some specific disease or illness you'll probably find a
group devoted to it. Interested in gardening, sports, some hobby,
politics, there's a group, usually many out that covering that too.

Most ISPs offer free access to at least some basic Usenet server. You
can still point to MS but you can easily add other news servers and
point to them as well and switch back and forth. You might be
surprised how much you're missing.
 
Adam said:
I went into more details in another post. I haven't visited MS's news
server in many years so things may have changed. If it still is like
it was they only carry their own newsgroups, not general Usenet.

Why would anyone care? Because you're missing most of Usenet. There
are easily hundreds of different newsgroups devoted to every area of
computers and that just scratches the surface. There are newsgroups
that cover nearly any topic you can think of. For example if you
suffer from some specific disease or illness you'll probably find a
group devoted to it. Interested in gardening, sports, some hobby,
politics, there's a group, usually many out that covering that too.

Most ISPs offer free access to at least some basic Usenet server. You
can still point to MS but you can easily add other news servers and
point to them as well and switch back and forth. You might be
surprised how much you're missing.
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Good explanation. It's amazing how Bill Yawn didn't know what Usenet is
(well, not really). MS newsgroups are only a tiny fraction of what's
available on news groups.

Alias
 
Alias said:
Good explanation. It's amazing how Bill Yawn didn't know what Usenet is
(well, not really). MS newsgroups are only a tiny fraction of what's
available on news groups.

Alias
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Well DUH!!!
As if no one knew any of this!
Frank
 
Adam Albright said:
If you knew how to read a newsgroup header you would know. Since you
apparently don't, I'll help you out. This is how your post reached me:

beE1!out03b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!
news.usenetserver.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad!news.highwinds-media.com!
newshub.sdsu.edu!msrtrans!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

You read the above from the end backwards, right to left. All the
listings you see are "hops" (usually routers) that your message made
to go from the news server you posted up to that eventually reached
mine and everyone else's. So you can see I'm using usenetserver.com.
The path will be different for each poster and recipient of any
message read. That's the beauty of Usenet. There are hundreds of TB's
worth of traffic daily. About .000001% of it passes through
Microsoft's sever. Starting to understand how much you're missing or
how silly you sound when you say Microsoft will "ban" or censor
something? That's like saying you're going to remove a grain of sand
from a beach. Who cares.


Outlook isn't attached to anything. By default it simply points to MS.
Just like when you first installed Windows and used Microsoft's
browser it made one of their web sites your home page until you
changed it, assuming you did. You can point Outlook Express or
whatever you use as a news reader to any news server you want. In fact
you can use most as you do a browser and access dozens, even hundreds
of different news servers. There are thousands of others out there and
no they don't all carry the same groups or retain posts the same
length of time.

By using just the MS news server you are severely limiting what you
see as to other newsgroups. There are well in excess of 100,000 other
newsgroups. While many are nearly empty or just spam traps, there are
many thousands of very good newsgroups covering an entire universe of
topics. Many computer related that don't have the Microsoft bias.

Its a big world on Usenet. You probably haven't see 1% of it.
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There are many usenet newsgroups that have posters with high technical
knowledge compared to here, and top-posting newbies are never tolerated!
You only find that in MS newsgroups, done by posters who obviously do not go
anywhere else.

ss.
 
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