M
Mike
Does it seem like MS antispyware has been in beta for a long time
considering it is a fairly small and relatively simple utility?
considering it is a fairly small and relatively simple utility?
J
JoeM
A BIG yes. I wish we could get some time table. except for soon. soon was
given to use 4 month ago. I hope beta 2 is coming.
We need some type of time table.
given to use 4 month ago. I hope beta 2 is coming.
We need some type of time table.
B
Bill Sanderson
The timeline has been pretty mysterious, I'm afraid. It is still that way,
but I believe that may change once beta2 appears, which will be in the next
2 and a half months or so. This project is a puzzle piece of at least three
other projects and that is a factor in the timing.
but I believe that may change once beta2 appears, which will be in the next
2 and a half months or so. This project is a puzzle piece of at least three
other projects and that is a factor in the timing.
V
Vanguard \(NPI\)
Mike said:Does it seem like MS antispyware has been in beta for a long time
considering it is a fairly small and relatively simple utility?
Rewrite tons of sloppy code inherited from Giant. Find LOTS of more bugs by
having a vastly larger userbase than when the product was distributed by
Giant. Develop an enterprise-level version of the product that meets the
needs of corporate customers and professional users. So, yeah, I can see it
would take awhile. I'm not sure that Microsoft really cared about buying
the code as opposed to buying the technology to reuse or rewrite as they saw
fit for ALL their users.
Well, at least, their beta isn't as old and stagnant as for Google's 18
month-old GMail Beta. They haven't fixed POP3 bugs since reported before
last February. Maybe Google forgot that Beta is really not supposed to be
part of the product's name and is a version qualifier.
"Microsoft Client Protection". Aw, c'mon, Microsoft couldn't come up with a
better and more catchy product name than that? How about Microsoft Squishy
to denote it stamping out the bugs (viruses, trojans, spyware, tracking
cookies or whitelisting if they add the feature, and so on).
B
Bill Sanderson
Vanguard (NPI) said:"Microsoft Client Protection". Aw, c'mon, Microsoft couldn't come up with
a better and more catchy product name than that? How about Microsoft
Squishy to denote it stamping out the bugs (viruses, trojans, spyware,
tracking cookies or whitelisting if they add the feature, and so on).
Naming is getting more prosaic.
Windows Mail (Vista version of Outlook Express)
I
Ira
I think that it is great that for once MS is taking time to uncover problems
rather than than having SP's. By the time this becomes and official
release it should be in excellent shape. I prefer this to SP's.
Ira
: : >
: > "Microsoft Client Protection". Aw, c'mon, Microsoft couldn't come up
with
: > a better and more catchy product name than that? How about Microsoft
: > Squishy to denote it stamping out the bugs (viruses, trojans, spyware,
: > tracking cookies or whitelisting if they add the feature, and so on).
:
: Naming is getting more prosaic.
:
: Windows Mail (Vista version of Outlook Express)
:
:
rather than than having SP's. By the time this becomes and official
release it should be in excellent shape. I prefer this to SP's.
Ira
: : >
: > "Microsoft Client Protection". Aw, c'mon, Microsoft couldn't come up
with
: > a better and more catchy product name than that? How about Microsoft
: > Squishy to denote it stamping out the bugs (viruses, trojans, spyware,
: > tracking cookies or whitelisting if they add the feature, and so on).
:
: Naming is getting more prosaic.
:
: Windows Mail (Vista version of Outlook Express)
:
:
N
NganeLoe
The answer is a big big YES, considering prototyping applications like
these isn't rocket science.
these isn't rocket science.
B
Bill Sanderson
This is not your average beta. There are a lot of dynamics involved in the
timing, including those of other applications and Windows versions that will
integrate the same code--Windows OneCare Live, Microsoft Client Protection,
to say nothing of Vista. There's the work of the antispyware coalition,
which is providing a clear basis that should help in the legal arena to
defend the actions taken by Windows Defender.
In the end, writing the code that provides the UI that we'll see as Windows
Defender is probably going to be a pretty small part of the overall process.
And I doubt that anyone will write a book like Tracy Kidder's "Soul of a new
machine" about this effort--but it'd be interesting to know more about, I
suspect.
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timing, including those of other applications and Windows versions that will
integrate the same code--Windows OneCare Live, Microsoft Client Protection,
to say nothing of Vista. There's the work of the antispyware coalition,
which is providing a clear basis that should help in the legal arena to
defend the actions taken by Windows Defender.
In the end, writing the code that provides the UI that we'll see as Windows
Defender is probably going to be a pretty small part of the overall process.
And I doubt that anyone will write a book like Tracy Kidder's "Soul of a new
machine" about this effort--but it'd be interesting to know more about, I
suspect.
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