Local Area Connection, establishing and configuring

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some raw data:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-1999 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.0.146
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping www.google.com
Unknown host www.google.com.

C:\>time
The current time is: 23:13:20.00
Enter the new time:

C:\>



The NIC connects to an Asus WL-330g with standard RJ45 Cat 5e cable.
Software to configure the Asus device works fine indicating that the
NIC has a good connection with the Asus device. There's also a
"networking" icon in the bottom right hand side of the screen which
pops up messages like "cable disconnected" or the opposite.

The Asus WL-330g is acting as a wireless (wi-fi) 802.11g ethernet
adapter/NIC. I know that the WL-330g works because I'm using it at a
different computer to post this message. Geidiprime indicates that the
Asus device is configured and associated with the router.

So, why can't geidiprime ping either the router (ping 192.168.2.1) or
google (ping www.google.com)? I followed the wizard for a Local Area
Connection and ipconfig indicates that geidiprime should be able to
connect to the internet.



thanks,

Thufir
 
Your network adapter is not getting an IP address from the router - compare
the address for the network card to the address of the router and you'll see
they don't match up. You need to discover why the NIC can't see the router
and once you solve that your other problems will likely vanish.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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some raw data:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-1999 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.0.146
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping www.google.com
Unknown host www.google.com.

C:\>time
The current time is: 23:13:20.00
Enter the new time:

C:\>



The NIC connects to an Asus WL-330g with standard RJ45 Cat 5e cable.
Software to configure the Asus device works fine indicating that the
NIC has a good connection with the Asus device. There's also a
"networking" icon in the bottom right hand side of the screen which
pops up messages like "cable disconnected" or the opposite.

The Asus WL-330g is acting as a wireless (wi-fi) 802.11g ethernet
adapter/NIC. I know that the WL-330g works because I'm using it at a
different computer to post this message. Geidiprime indicates that the
Asus device is configured and associated with the router.

So, why can't geidiprime ping either the router (ping 192.168.2.1) or
google (ping www.google.com)? I followed the wizard for a Local Area
Connection and ipconfig indicates that geidiprime should be able to
connect to the internet.



thanks,

Thufir
Click to expand...
 
Richard said:
Your network adapter is not getting an IP address from the router - compare
the address for the network card to the address of the router and you'll see
they don't match up. You need to discover why the NIC can't see the router
and once you solve that your other problems will likely vanish.
Click to expand...
...

I'm not sure I follow you there. The router has an IP address of
192.168.2.1 while geidiprime has

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.0.146

Are these not compatible?


The computer I'm on now, arrakis, has different info, but similar


[root@localhost ~]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0A:E6:A0:24:27
inet addr:192.168.2.175 Bcast:192.168.2.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::20a:e6ff:fea0:2427/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:27103 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:25350 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:28973149 (27.6 MiB) TX bytes:3106226 (2.9 MiB)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd400

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:4748 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:4748 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:5578867 (5.3 MiB) TX bytes:5578867 (5.3 MiB)

(that's linux, arrakis is dual-boot)


I'm not quite sure I follow you here. When arrakis is running win2k
arrakis has DHCP enabled, just like caladan...yes?


-Thufir
 
Richard said:
Your network adapter is not getting an IP address from the router - compare
the address for the network card to the address of the router and you'll see
they don't match up. You need to discover why the NIC can't see the router
and once you solve that your other problems will likely vanish.
Click to expand...
...

This is on a different computer, arrakis, which is dual boot
linux/win2k. From the win2k install:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 23,
2005 6:12:32 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 30,
2005 6:12:32 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 10ms, Average = 6ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



Now, geidiprime:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-1999 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.99
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.99
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>



The WL-330g keeps telling me that it's associated with an AP, in
infrastructure mode. The WL-330g is giving the exact same information
as when connected to arrakis. Yet arrakis is able to "ping
192.168.2.1" from either linux or win2k.

I've tried explicitly setting the IP address for geidiprime,
configuring the WL-330g, and still, nothing. Why? Or, what's the
right question?


thanks,

Thufir
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote in
..

I'm not sure I follow you there. The router has an IP address of
192.168.2.1 while geidiprime has

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.0.146

Are these not compatible?
Click to expand...

When a Windows machine fails to DHCP-get an IP address, the OS defaults
to an IP address of 169.254.x.x.

Since your router has the IP address of 192.168.2.1, then it should be
assigning unique IP addresses of the form: 192.168.2.xxx to any
machine connecting to it and asking for a DHCP address.

HTH,
John
 
some raw data:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-1999 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : geidiprime
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.0.146
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>ping www.google.com
Unknown host www.google.com.

C:\>time
The current time is: 23:13:20.00
Enter the new time:

C:\>



The NIC connects to an Asus WL-330g with standard RJ45 Cat 5e cable.
Software to configure the Asus device works fine indicating that the
NIC has a good connection with the Asus device. There's also a
"networking" icon in the bottom right hand side of the screen which
pops up messages like "cable disconnected" or the opposite.

The Asus WL-330g is acting as a wireless (wi-fi) 802.11g ethernet
adapter/NIC. I know that the WL-330g works because I'm using it at a
different computer to post this message. Geidiprime indicates that the
Asus device is configured and associated with the router.

So, why can't geidiprime ping either the router (ping 192.168.2.1) or
google (ping www.google.com)? I followed the wizard for a Local Area
Connection and ipconfig indicates that geidiprime should be able to
connect to the internet.



thanks,

Thufir
Click to expand...
Try unplugging your DSL or cable modem from the wall. Then plug it back
in and do an ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew and see if that fixes it.

J
 
Given these results, you aren't going to get anyone talking to anyone on
your network. It looks pretty much like every PC is in a different address
range. It looks like you have at least two routers (or ICS plus a router)
giving out IP addresses, plus that 169.x.x.x PC that isn't seeing ANY router
or DHCP server and getting an auto-assigned address.

If you're using ICS you need to configure all routers to stop handing out IP
addresses, put them into their switch-only mode. Reboot all PCs to get them
into their new address range, then see what works and what doesn't.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
 
John Wunderlich wrote:
...
When a Windows machine fails to DHCP-get an IP address, the OS defaults
to an IP address of 169.254.x.x.
Click to expand...

Ok, good to know. Since the windows machine (geidiprime) isn't
normally connected to anything, it can't possibly get assigned an IP
address.
Since your router has the IP address of 192.168.2.1, then it should be
assigning unique IP addresses of the form: 192.168.2.xxx to any
machine connecting to it and asking for a DHCP address.
Click to expand...
...

It's a SMC7004VWBR 802.11b wireless (wi-fi) router which I'm connecting
to via the Asus WL-330g wireless adapter NIC.


Three boxes:

1.) name: arrakis
os: dual-boot FC4 and win2k
mainboard: k7som+ motherboard
hard drive: 30 gig
NIC: SiS

2.) name: caladan
os: tomsrtbt or knoppix (linux, live)
hard drive: none (failed)
model: IBM 300 GL desktop
NIC: CE

3.) name: geidiprime
os: win2k
hard drive: 1 gig
model: IBM 300 GL desktop
NIC: D-Link
NIC: 3com


The Asus WL-330g is what I'm using at this moment for an internet
connection on arrakis. I want geidiprime to act as a gateway.


The router can only assign an IP address *once* the WL-330g is
associated with the router? Seems like a chicken-or-egg problem. I
*think* that the NIC which the WL-330g connects to should be DHCP.
However, at this moment I'd be happy to get geidiprime on the internet
by any means. I've been experimenting with assigning geidiprime's
D-Link NIC a static IP of 192.168.0.x, no luck so far. This doesn't
make sense to me because I checked that Arrakis uses DHCP no problem,
or, I can also assign arrakis a static IP address of 192.168.0.2.

There's something different between how arrakis (win2k) and geidiprime
are working internally or interacting with the WL-330g or router, but I
don't see what that could be.


thanks,

Thufir
 
Jody White wrote:
...
Try unplugging your DSL or cable modem from the wall. Then plug it back
in and do an ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew and see if that fixes it.

J
Click to expand...

Politically, that's not a viable option at this stage, as I share the
connection with a neighbor. However, if I still can't get it working,
yes, I'll do that, thanks.

I will try the ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew, though, I haven't
been doing that, maybe that'll get geidiprime on the net.


-Thufir
 
Richard said:
Given these results, you aren't going to get anyone talking to anyone on
your network. It looks pretty much like every PC is in a different address
range. It looks like you have at least two routers (or ICS plus a router)
giving out IP addresses, plus that 169.x.x.x PC that isn't seeing ANY router
or DHCP server and getting an auto-assigned address.
Click to expand...

It's an unusual scenario, definitely.

internet <--> cable modem <--> SMC7004VWBR <--> Asus WL-330g

At the moment, the WL-330g connects to my "primary" computer, arrakis.
The point of this is to use geidiprime (the box I'm having trouble
with) as a gateway for arrakis and another computer, caladan.
If you're using ICS you need to configure all routers to stop handing out IP
addresses, put them into their switch-only mode. Reboot all PCs to get them
into their new address range, then see what works and what doesn't.
Click to expand...
...

I haven't gotten that far yet. So far I just want to get the wireless
(wi-fi) NIC, the WL-330g, working on geidiprime. Once I get geidiprime
online, yes, I need to enable ICS on geidiprime.


-Thufir
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
[..incomplete problem description..]


I was trying to break a larger problem down to smaller componets, but
failed. Thank you everyone for the help, but let's please call this
thread dead. I'll start a new thread better describing what's going
on.


thanks,

Thufir
 
As I said, it looks like you have both the SMC and Asus devices working as
routers and handing out IP addresses. One of them (the Asus) needs to stop
doing so. I think you're also needlessly complicating your network or at
least your vision of how it should work. You don't need ICS if you have a
router. No computer needs to serve as a "gateway" for another.

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Richard said:
As I said, it looks like you have both the SMC and Asus devices working as
routers and handing out IP addresses. One of them (the Asus) needs to stop
doing so. I think you're also needlessly complicating your network or at
least your vision of how it should work. You don't need ICS if you have a
router. No computer needs to serve as a "gateway" for another.
Click to expand...
...

The SMC device is a router, yes. The Asus device (WL-330g) is an
wireless ethernet adapter.

I have three computer (arrakis, caladan, geidiprime) that I want to
have internet access. The only way to connect to the router is
wirelessly. Hence:

WL-330g <--> geidiprime <--> switch <--> (arrakis & caladan)

yes?


-Thufir
 
Sounds to me like you're opening a one-quart-size bottle of headache. Get a
combination wired/wireless router and save yourself a lot of hassles. Or
connect the Asus access point to the router and turn off all routing
functions on the Asus.

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Richard said:
Sounds to me like you're opening a one-quart-size bottle of headache. Get a
combination wired/wireless router and save yourself a lot of hassles. Or
connect the Asus access point to the router and turn off all routing
functions on the Asus.
Click to expand...
...

It's not possible to physically connect the Asus WL-330g to the router.
Nor is it physically possible to connect a computer to the router.
The only way to connect to the router is 802.11b/g.

At one point I had a USB network adapter, and it worked fine for this
purpose. (However, I returned the USB adapter and got the WL-330g).

-Thufir
 
Then back to suggestion #1. Get a combo wired/wireless router and solve all
your headaches in one fairly inexpensive swoop.

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Richard said:
Then back to suggestion #1. Get a combo wired/wireless router and solve all
your headaches in one fairly inexpensive swoop.
Click to expand...
...

I made an inadvertent grammar mistake. It's certainly possible to
connect to the SMC7004VWBR router with wires. It's not possibe for
arrakis, caladan nor geidprime to connect to the router with wires,
though. That connection must be wireless, for which I'm using the Asus
WL-330g.


-Thufir
 
Then it's back to suggestion #2. :-) Connect the wireless access point to
your router. Turn off its DHCP and routing capabilities - make it a simple
access point. Job done.

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Then it's back to suggestion #2. :-) Connect the wireless access point to
your router. Turn off its DHCP and routing capabilities - make it a simple
access point. Job done.
Click to expand...

I connected the wireless ethernet adapter, the Asus WL-330g,
to one NIC and a switch to the other NIC. I was then able to
ping between arrakis and caladan while connected to the internet.

I'm not totally sure that I can reliably repeat the procedure, though.
Also, this was with the wrong computer acting as the gateway.


-Thufir
 
One of us remains confused. I'm not sure which at this point.

You do not need a computer acting as a gateway if you have a router present.
The router will handle giving out addresses via DHCP and allowing all
computers to connect to each other and to the Internet. And you want only
one router active on the network, otherwise you're dividing your network up
into different address ranges and won't ever get reliable networking.

You should be connecting your Internet device (cable or DSL modem) to the
router, then the wireless access point to the router, then disable all
routing and DHCP features on the wireless access point. This should allow
all computers to connect to the wireless access point (assuming all have
wireless NICs in them) and communicate as part of a local area network.

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